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Shabbat Desecration in the Police: A. An Overview of Pikuach Nefesh Considerations (Column 529)

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A few weeks ago I saw a report about a visit by Rabbi Rami Berachyahu, the Police Chief Rabbi, to the town of Harish. The report briefly raises the issue of operating the police and turning to them on Shabbat:

At a meeting initiated by Chief Inspector Shimon Levy, head of the Haredi sector, topics were raised relating to police activity and the need to maintain a fabric of life in which everyone can live safely on weekdays, and on Shabbat—filing complaints at the police station on Shabbat and police activity in the public sphere.

The Police Rabbi presented to the rabbis the staff work carried out in recent months within the police, the essence of which is making police services accessible while adapting them to halakha. He presented to those present the halakhic ruling that obligates calling the police on Shabbat and holidays when an unusual noise is heard from apartments. The halakhic ruling is backed by leading decisors in the Haredi public, among them Rabbi Asher Weiss, Rabbi Yitzhak Zilberstein, Rabbi Shlomo Moshe Amar, and Rabbi Shabtai Levy. The rabbis were exposed to the halakhic solutions in the form of a “Shabbat patrol car” operated by non-Jewish officers, and more.

Reading this reminded me of an article I wrote many years ago for the IDF Rabbinate journal, Machanech, in which, among other things, I discussed operating the police on Shabbat. My claim there was that in many cases police officers should be permitted to act as usual on Shabbat, even when there is no concern for pikuach nefesh (life-saving). Before taking up his position, Rabbi Berachyahu headed a Torah framework that examined these issues, and at that time he corresponded with me about that article.

Returning to the report, I was left with the impression that there are rabbis who support my aforementioned position, since it discussed filing complaints with the police due to unusual noise even on Shabbat, and the simple reading is that this is not specifically about saving lives but about maintaining the ordinary fabric of life. I was surprised to discover such broad agreement with my position and I did not know. I therefore sent him a question: do the rulings cited there indeed address Shabbat desecration in the case of noise that disturbs neighbors even when there is no concern for pikuach nefesh, or are we dealing with a fear that something dangerous is occurring inside the apartment? Rabbi Berachyahu sent me the source of the matter from the journal of the Police Rabbinate (Mashav Ruach, issue 5), at the end of which appear several letters from rabbis whose positions were described in the report.

From a review of the letters it became clear to me that their consideration is exclusively one of pikuach nefesh, though they broaden it in such contexts. He later also sent me his own article in Techumin 39 (5779), “Sovereignty as a Halakhic Consideration,” which deals with guarding non-Jews on Shabbat. In the course of that piece he also addresses the permissibility and scope of operating the police on Shabbat. One can see a description of the matter from other angles as well here.

In this column I will begin a systematic discussion of operating the police on Shabbat, which will also take us to a discussion of the relationship between the individual and the public. The discussion will continue in the next column.

General Background

The Talmud in Yoma 85a–b discusses the question of the source for pikuach nefesh overriding Shabbat (as it does any other prohibition—Shabbat is only an example):

“It once happened that Rabbi Yishmael, Rabbi Akiva, and Rabbi Elazar ben Azariah were walking along the road, with Levi the arranger, and Rabbi Yishmael the son of Rabbi Elazar ben Azariah walking behind them. This question was asked before them: From where do we derive that saving a life overrides Shabbat?”

The sugya then brings several possible sources proposed by Tannaim (some of which appear rather forced, and at first glance seem easy to refute), and ultimately we are left with Shmuel’s (the Amora’s) exposition: “‘and you shall live by them’—and not die by them,” and perhaps also with the source of R. Shimon ben Menasia, “Desecrate one Shabbat for him so that he may keep many Shabbatot” (at least regarding definite pikuach nefesh).[1] Note that Shmuel is an Amora who disputes Tannaim, and in the end specifically his source is accepted.

Already from the formulation of the question one sees that the sugya is not discussing the ruling itself—whether pikuach nefesh overrides Shabbat—but only its source (“from where?”). The formulation indicates it was obvious to them from the outset that this is the law, and the question was only about the source. This is likely the reason Shmuel, an Amora, permits himself to disagree with Tannaim, since there is no dispute among them about the law but only about the source for the law (“the significance of exegesis”). Moreover, the sources brought there are all rejected on the claim that they cannot teach that even doubtful pikuach nefesh overrides Shabbat. If these were the sources that created the law, it is doubtful an Amora would allow himself to reject them in this way. The conclusion would have been that only definite pikuach nefesh overrides Shabbat—full stop. It is therefore more reasonable that the law was known beforehand, and it was clear that all mitzvot are to be set aside in the face of pikuach nefesh, even doubtful, and the sugya is only about the source.

But this raises the question: how was the law itself determined? Why was it so clear to them in advance? One might suggest it was a tradition from Sinai, and then the whole discussion is a “rigged game,” whose aim is only to anchor this known halakha in Scripture (supportive derivations). But this is less plausible, since this law is not presented anywhere as a halakha to Moses at Sinai. Moreover, if it were a tradition, there would be no necessity for a scriptural source or derasha, so why does the Gemara assume there must be such a source?!

It is therefore more reasonable that this law arose from sevara—a halakhic or meta-halakhic intuition. It was obvious to the Sages that pikuach nefesh, even doubtful, should set aside the entire Torah. Only afterwards does the discussion begin about whether and how this can be anchored in Scripture. Indeed, R. Shimon ben Menasia’s “Desecrate one Shabbat” is a sevara and not a scriptural source. And the derasha “‘and you shall live by them’—and not die by them” is not very convincing as a derasha (especially when one examines the context). I therefore think all these are ex post facto anchors for a law that was clear from the outset, and thus there was no strict insistence on their cogency.

Note that according to this, all the sources brought to establish that the three cardinal sins (murder, sexual immorality, and idolatry) are not set aside by pikuach nefesh are the novelty (at least regarding murder; there too the limitation is based on sevara: “Who says your blood is redder?”): the basic foundation is the sevara that everything is set aside in the face of pikuach nefesh or doubtful pikuach nefesh, and any deviation from that requires a source or explanation.[2] In any case, bottom line: as a matter of halakha, pikuach nefesh, definite or doubtful, overrides Shabbat and any other prohibition except the three cardinal sins—and apparently the whole matter is grounded in sevara.

Doubtful Pikuach Nefesh

As I noted, the sugya assumes throughout that doubtful pikuach nefesh also overrides Shabbat. All the sources except Shmuel’s are rejected on the grounds that they cannot be used to derive that doubtful pikuach nefesh overrides Shabbat. From here the decisors learned that one desecrates Shabbat even for a safek sefeika (a compounded doubt) of pikuach nefesh, and of course we do not follow the majority. Sevara leads us to an even more far-reaching conclusion: any doubt of pikuach nefesh, however remote, sets aside all the prohibitions of the Torah (except the three cardinal sins).

Thus, for example, the Shulchan Aruch, Orach Chayim 329:1–3, writes:

1. Any saving of life overrides Shabbat, and one who is quick is praiseworthy. Even if a fire fell in another courtyard and one fears it will spread to this courtyard and lead to danger, we extinguish so that it will not spread.

2. We do not follow the majority in matters of saving life. Even if there were nine non-Jews and one Jew in a courtyard, and one of them separated to another courtyard and a collapse fell on him there, we clear [the rubble], since the original presence remained fixed in its place we consider it as half and half. But if all moved away and at the time of their moving one of them went to another courtyard and it fell on him, we do not clear it for him; since the original presence moved from its place, we say: anything that separates is presumed to have separated from the majority.

3. One upon whom a collapse fell—whether doubtful he is alive or dead, doubtful he is there or not there—even if, if he is there, doubtful [whether he is] a non-Jew or a Jew, we clear [the rubble] for him, even though there are many doubts.

This is a very far-reaching conclusion, and it is quite clear that it does not emerge from the sources brought in the sugya. Again we see that this is a law whose foundation is sevara, and the sevara says that any concern of pikuach nefesh overrides all prohibitions (besides the three cardinal ones).

Despite all this, common sense says there are situations in which the risk is so remote that we do not desecrate Shabbat; otherwise we would desecrate Shabbat for everything, since it is always possible to imagine a remote scenario that leads to danger to life. Is it permitted to desecrate Shabbat to prevent a person from leaving his home to the street lest he be run over?! This risk cannot be denied—traffic accidents occur all the time, including on Shabbat. Clearly that is beyond the boundary (otherwise even on weekdays we would be forbidden to leave the house except for critical needs). Thus, for example, halakha states that if there is a disagreement among physicians we follow the majority opinion; i.e., even if one doctor says we must desecrate Shabbat for the patient before us, if he is in the minority we do not desecrate. In light of what I explained here, it seems that in such cases we are dealing with situations where there is no real doubt, even though one doctor is concerned. When there is a real doubt, we certainly take into account the minority view as well.[3]

An analogy is the license to perform a prohibited labor with a shinui (an atypical manner). Any labor done on Shabbat with a shinui is rabbinically prohibited. But clearly, if the change is so great that the act no longer resembles the original labor at all, there will be no prohibition whatsoever. There is a slope of degrees of change; if we do not set a reasonable line in the middle, any act we perform on Shabbat will be prohibited because it can be described as some labor performed with a shinui. Along similar lines, R. Ben-Zion Abba Shaul wrote regarding the prohibition of chametz on Pesach “in any amount.” He said it is permitted to drink water from the Kinneret even though fishermen throw pieces of bread into it. He explains that even “any amount” has a threshold (I cited his words here).

Accordingly, the fact that we do not follow the majority and that we desecrate Shabbat even for a compounded doubt does not mean there is no limit. There are risks so remote and minor that we do not desecrate Shabbat for them. The sevara that created this law is also the one that limits it—the mouth that forbade is the mouth that permitted.

A Metal Ember: Public Pikuach Nefesh

Shabbat 42a cites a dictum of Shmuel (our acquaintance from the sugya in Yoma):

“Is it to say that Shmuel holds like Rabbi Shimon? But did not Shmuel say: One extinguishes a metal ember in the public domain so that the many not be harmed by it, but not a wooden ember. And if it enters your mind that he holds like Rabbi Shimon—then even a wooden ember should be permitted, as an unintentional act. [Answer:] With regard to unintended acts, he holds like Rabbi Shimon; with regard to a labor not needed for its own sake, he holds like Rabbi Yehuda.”

Shmuel rules that if there is a metal ember (i.e., one that has not become charcoal) in the public domain, one may extinguish it on Shabbat out of concern that the many may be harmed by it. The law for a wooden ember (which has become charcoal) depends on the law of “a labor not needed for its own sake” (melacha she’eina tzericha legufa): if one extinguishes to produce charcoal, that is a Torah prohibition; if one extinguishes for another purpose, it is a labor not needed for its own sake—about which the Tannaim dispute, and according to most opinions is only rabbinically prohibited.

At first glance, we see here that the leniency applies only to rabbinic prohibitions; otherwise it should not hinge on the dispute about a labor not needed for its own sake. This is the usual explanation of the Gemara, which assumes that with a metal ember there is no Torah prohibition, as there is no charcoal. But some Rishonim discussed the prohibition of tempering (metzaref—purifying/strengthening the metal), which exists even with a metal ember. For example, the Ramban here cites in the name of the Ba’al Halakhot Gedolot that one may extinguish even if it constitutes a Torah-level labor (of tempering):

“But in the Halakhot Gedolot I found regarding a wooden ember: there is no harm to the public in it. What is the reason? As long as it has not become extinguished, it is red and they see it and will not come to be harmed by it. But a metal ember—even though its redness fades and they do not see it—people will come to be harmed by it. And Rabbi Yehuda does not accept ‘harm to the public,’ whereas Shmuel—where there is ‘harm to the public’—disagrees with him. And even though in other matters he holds like Rabbi Yehuda regarding a labor not needed for its own sake, concerning a metal ember—since there is ‘harm to the public’—he disputes him. And likewise regarding trapping a snake—where there is harm—Shmuel permits. And so wrote Rav Ḥananel in accordance with his words.”

The Ba’al Halakhot Gedolot and Rav Ḥananel write that the Gemara distinguishes between a metal ember and a wooden ember not only because of the severity of the prohibition, but also because with a wooden ember there is no concern for the public. It follows that if there were “harm to the public,” they would permit even a labor needed for its own sake, i.e., even a Torah prohibition. Therefore, the Gemara permits extinguishing a metal ember even though, in their view, this entails a Torah-level labor. See also the Tur, Orach Chayim 334, who cites this view, as well as the dispute between the Rambam and Ra’avad, Shabbat 12:2, and the Kesef Mishneh and other commentators there.

The Ramban wonders where we find that a full Torah prohibition is permitted because of harm that is not pikuach nefesh:

“It is astonishing: how do we permit a full labor due to harm not in a place of danger to life? Perhaps any ‘harm to the public’ is considered danger to life for Shmuel. But this is not correct; if so, whence do we know that Rabbi Yehuda himself would not agree in this case? One could say that, according to them, the case of a scorpion so that it not bite (later, 121a) is ‘harm to the public’…”

He explains that according to the Ba’al Halakhot Gedolot, any “harm to the public” has the status of pikuach nefesh. It is not, however, clear what kind of “harm” is meant here. Seemingly it also includes harm that is not danger to life; otherwise even for an individual this would permit Shabbat desecration. Yet most commentators understand that this refers to a remote danger to life—something that for an individual we would not permit Shabbat desecration, but for the public we do. That is, with regard to the public we broaden the license to violate prohibitions in a case of pikuach nefesh to situations of danger with a low probability; and according to this, we cannot learn from here that any harm to the public is considered pikuach nefesh (even where there is no real danger to life). Below I will suggest that one may also understand this as referring to public harm that is not pikuach nefesh, but before that I will preface an important distinction.

Two Aspects of the Public’s Priority over the Individual

According to Rav Ḥananel and the Ba’al Halakhot Gedolot, any “harm to the public” is considered pikuach nefesh. This claim can be read in two ways (see on this in column 284): 1) Even harm that is not pikuach nefesh—when it concerns the public—has the status of pikuach nefesh. 2) The common explanation: regarding the public, even a remote concern of danger to life is treated as pikuach nefesh (unlike danger to an individual).

Explanation 2 can itself be read in two ways:

  • Probabilistic reading. When the concern affects the public, then even if the chance that someone will be harmed is small, when many people pass by, the expected value of harm is high. To illustrate: if the chance that a passerby will be harmed by the ember is 1/1000, then if ten thousand people pass there daily, the expected number of injuries per day is 10. That certainly justifies permitting Shabbat desecration, as this is like definite pikuach nefesh. Note that in this approach there is no special virtue to the “public” vis-à-vis an individual. The public is merely an aggregation of many individuals; the rest is a statistical matter.

For example, in column 284 I cited Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu’s ruling permitting an IDF officer to check a weapon with a flashlight on Shabbat. The risk of an accidental discharge after checking without a flashlight is very small, and for an individual we certainly would not permit Shabbat desecration for it. But when dealing with the public—many soldiers and commanders—if we forbid using flashlights in weapons checks, it is almost certain that some soldiers will be harmed.

One may wonder, however, why a particular officer should comply with such a ruling, since for him, even if he does not use a flashlight, the risk to life is very small and does not justify Shabbat desecration. That officer is a single individual, and his reasoning should be like an individual’s, not the public’s. It seems we cannot avoid invoking the categorical imperative, which says that each person should act as if everyone were to act as he does (see on this in my article “The Categorical Imperative in Halakha,” and in columns 13, 122, 209, 344, and others). Note that the categorical imperative, an extra-halakhic principle, suffices to permit a Shabbat desecration that would otherwise be forbidden.

  • Essential reading. Even if we are dealing with a situation where the chance of harm to life is small (though it is a case of public harm), nevertheless because it concerns the public we permit what we would not permit for an individual. Note that here the leniency is based on the public’s special standing, not on a probabilistic/statistical calculation. Although the chance of harm to life is small, because it concerns the public we permit prohibitions we would not permit to an individual in such a case.

There is room to distinguish between two meanings of “public harm” in this context. An unchecked weapon or a metal ember in the public domain are seemingly threats to individuals, since the harm—if it occurs—will be to a particular person, not to “the public.” And yet, since the threat addresses the public at large, halakha may treat this as a threat of public harm (even without the statistics used in explanation 2a—by virtue of it being the public). But even if one disputes this, there are situations in which the expected harm is to the public as a public, not only to individuals within it; and there, perhaps all will agree it has the status of pikuach nefesh. Thus, for example, if we forbid extinguishing an ember in the public domain, beyond the concern for an individual passerby, a problem arises regarding the use of that public thoroughfare. People will fear to pass there, and the road will not be serviceable to the public. That is already an impairment of the public’s fabric of life, not merely of individuals.[4] For a use of a similar sevara, see my response here regarding doubtful impurity in the public domain.

I will note that explanation 1 above also presumes the essential foundation: we permit the public things we would not permit the individual because of the public’s virtue. In fact, explanation 2b is a special case of explanation 1; the difference between them concerns whether public harm that is in no way connected to danger to life also justifies Shabbat desecration. According to 1—yes; according to 2b—perhaps not. Still, even if we adopt explanation 2b, we must account for why a small chance of harm to life—which would not permit Shabbat desecration for an individual—does permit it for the many. Recall there is no statistical consideration here; we are speaking of cases in which even for the many the chance of harm is small. We are compelled to say that underlying 2b there is also a conception that sees a special status in the public; if so, there is no principled barrier to extending this also to harms that are not about life (thus arriving at conception 1). Among the decisors, conception 2 is common, and it can be understood via 2a or 2b. I did not find conception 1 explicitly in the decisors (though in my view it exists in the subtext—see more below), and I supported it in my aforementioned essay.

We can now return to the question of calling the police on Shabbat, beginning with a discussion of the letters of the above rabbis. Below is an image of Rabbi Zilberstein’s letter (you can see it and the others here).

A Critical Review of the Rabbis’ Letters

Rabbi Zilberstein writes that the ideal situation (“had we merited”—his golden phrase) would be that the officers were non-Jews; then one could turn to them even on Shabbat and even when there is no concern for lives, since telling a non-Jew (amira le-nochri) and a rabbinic prohibition are permitted in a case of mitzvah, suffering, or loss (mitzvah, tza’ar, hefsed—מצ”ה). But unfortunately “we have not merited,” and the officers are Jews (though, to our “delight,” “we have merited” that almost none of them are religious—quite the opposite of Rabbi Berachyahu’s own agenda); therefore, as a matter of halakha, one may turn to them in any situation of quarrel or violence in which there is a concern, even remote, that it could lead to danger to life.

He does, however, write that in such cases turning to them is permitted only with a shinui (atypically), which would imply he does not see this as a full pikuach nefesh allowance (otherwise he would permit it in any manner). Perhaps, in his view, we are dealing with a remote concern that does not enter the category of regular pikuach nefesh, yet rabbinic prohibitions were permitted even in such a situation. But if so, it is unclear how, in his view, the officers should respond to such a call, for their very service—and certainly their arrival at the scene—are certainly carried out through full Torah prohibitions (and, as noted, we have not “merited” that they are non-Jews). If only rabbinic prohibitions are permitted, there is neither license nor point in calling—even with a shinui—since the officers themselves will not be able to come.

Perhaps his intention was only to say that if it is possible to call in a rabbinically prohibited manner, that is preferable—not that the situation permits only a rabbinic prohibition—though his wording does not read that way. But even that phrasing is problematic, since when there is danger we do not hesitate or ask—we do whatever is required immediately. Instead of thinking how to dial the police with the pinky of the left hand, one should simply dial normally. There are people in danger.

Indeed, in the letters of Rabbis Weiss and Amar that follow his, they fully agree with Rabbi Zilberstein’s words, and both explicitly write that dialing with a shinui is only if it is truly feasible (“begin with the lighter [violation] first”—see Yoma 83a). But when necessary, desecrating Shabbat at a Torah level is also permitted for this. It is possible that Rabbi Zilberstein meant this as well and simply did not word it carefully.

The proofs Rabbi Zilberstein brings are also problematic to me. One proof is from the Torah (Deut. 25:11), where “men struggle, a man and his brother”—there is a fight between them—then a woman grabs the attacker by his genitals. The Torah views this as a case of a pursuer (rodef) in which the pursuer’s life may be endangered (grabbing the genitals is a risk—see Rambam, Laws of Murder 1:8). He then cites the Shulchan Aruch, Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchatah, and Tzitz Eliezer, all of whom wrote that when there is a quarrel it can spiral into danger, and that justifies Shabbat desecration. I fail to see the point of these proofs. Either way: if, in our assessment, the situation presents a danger to life, there is no need for proofs—we must act. And if, in our assessment, there is no danger—we should not call, despite those proofs. Are those decisors better positioned to assess the facts than we are? What grounds the assumption that the reality they addressed is equivalent to the one I am in? Ultimately everything depends on my assessment of the reality of the particular situation: if in my view there is a danger to life, I must call without these proofs; if there is no danger, one should not call notwithstanding those proofs. Therefore, as I understand it, these proofs neither add nor detract.

One could explain that he does not bring proofs for the factual claim that a quarrel may escalate into danger, but for the halakhic determination that even such a remote concern justifies Shabbat desecration. That, too, is problematic, since the question is how remote the risk may be and still justify desecrating Shabbat; thus we still cannot escape evaluating the level of risk in the particular case before us. Beyond that, he himself writes that his proof addresses the factual claim, in his words: “It follows that through quarreling one can come to danger.”

Moreover, these proofs demonstrate that the conclusion is that the permission extends even to Torah-level prohibitions. The source he cited from the Shulchan Aruch (O.C. 328:7) states that one desecrates Shabbat for a “blow of iron,” and the simple reading is that this includes a complete labor (see Atret Tzvi ad loc. §10, who writes explicitly: “By a Jew—even for a Torah-level labor”). It is not reasonable that he would take from there only the factual assessment and not the halakha that pertains to it; apparently he too permits desecrating Shabbat with a Torah-level labor when necessary.

Incidentally, note that in footnote 1 at the bottom of his letter he invokes explanation 2a to justify desecrating Shabbat for a remote danger (see his proofs there). From this he concludes that, in the matter of calling the police on Shabbat regarding brawls—though the danger in a given case is remote and rare—since these are numerous cases (across the entire public on all Shabbatot), the expected harm is that some people will lose their lives; therefore Shabbat desecration is permitted even for a remote danger. Again, it is unlikely that the license is only for rabbinic prohibitions.

In any event, this response seems to me rather odd. It is not clear whether his intention is merely to innovate that a remote degree of pikuach nefesh justifies Shabbat desecration, or to the very fact that such a situation constitutes pikuach nefesh, and what the relevance of his proofs is (in fact, the footnote presents highly relevant proofs). Either way, it is clear that his license is grounded in a concern for pikuach nefesh, and concerns not involving danger to life do not justify calling and operating the police on Shabbat. The last letter there, by Rabbi Shabtai Levy, distinguishes between two types of situations. I am doubtful how significant that discussion is to our case, but what is relevant for us is that he too stakes his argument on considerations of doubtful pikuach nefesh.

In contrast, I contend that there is no need to resort to the standard laws of pikuach nefesh when discussing operating the police on Shabbat. In the aforementioned essay (Machanech 3, 5768), I argued that one may operate the police on Shabbat even when there is no concern whatsoever for pikuach nefesh, simply because these are critical public needs. We already saw such a direction in the sugya of the metal ember above, and in the next column I will present the main points of my argument in that essay.

[1] See column 421 regarding the relationship between these two rationales.

[2] In column 291 I noted that, according to several decisors, even infringement of another’s rights is not set aside in the face of pikuach nefesh.

[3] This is reminiscent of a distinction I once made regarding “reasonable doubt” in criminal conviction. In criminal law, the decision is made by majority: if one judge dissents against two, the verdict follows the two. This seems puzzling, since the very existence of a dissent indicates at least some doubt, and the rule in criminal law is that a verdict is delivered only when it is beyond a reasonable doubt. I explained that there is a difference between a situation in which two judges say they have no doubt and one says he has a reasonable doubt—then we follow the majority who have decided there is no reasonable doubt—and a situation in which the dissenting judge claims certainty of the defendant’s innocence (and not merely the existence of a reasonable doubt about his guilt). In the latter case we do not follow the majority, since there is a reasonable doubt. See an extensive discussion in column 327. Accordingly, if there is a physician who says there is danger (and not merely a concern), we do desecrate Shabbat on his say-so. See the letter by Rabbi Shabtai Levy (the last among the rabbis’ letters mentioned below), which is devoted entirely to this point.

[4] A similar consideration appears in the sugya of “damage by sight” at the beginning of Bava Batra. This refers to the harm caused by a neighbor’s looking into his fellow’s property. Seemingly the harm is that he observes him while engaged in modest activities on his property. But some commentators explain that the harm is that the neighbor will refrain from using his courtyard due to the concern that his fellow will see him. Thus, “damage by sight” is not the observation of concealed activities, but the loss of use of the courtyard.


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13 תגובות

  1. I read it twice, and I didn't understand what situation it is about? What prohibition does it entail? The case is not sufficiently clear to my taste. What is the dilemma anyway, since the answer is clear: if it is a matter of Pekkon (even if it is doubtful), then everything is permitted, and if not, then everything is prohibited. What is the problem?

    1. This is not about any specific situation. What are the outlines for operating police and essential services on Shabbat? The situation is far from being as simple as you describe, and it is not true that when there is no picon, then it is forbidden. In the following columns I will focus even more.

  2. Again, I had to read in a hurry because of the cliff of times and maybe I missed something, and what's more, I'm not a Rabbi and not a Poskam and beyond that – I may agree with the main points (except for the tone of disdain in the ”H that it would be better if it didn't exist) and ”C.
    I only came to comment on comment – No. 3. It seems to me that there is a difference between civil criminal law and Torah law. According to Torah law, a conviction is not based on proof “beyond a reasonable doubt”, because there is always doubt and always reasonable doubt (and in the absence of a true and unstable one, which is even in relation to the reality of the house). The pretense of flesh and blood to the ability to prove something “beyond a reasonable doubt” It smells of “earth to the Supreme”.
    Conviction in a Torah trial is not based on (imaginary) probabilities of “near certainty” or “reasonable doubt”, but on another principle – the prosecution's success in overcoming the hurdle of the law of evidence of Halacha. It is still possible that the witnesses conspired or that the court made a mistake (as in Yehuda ben Tabai) or that it turned out retroactively that the trial was staged (as in the case of Shimon ben Shetach's son). But “the judge has only what his eyes see”, and if the prosecution has passed the test of the law of evidence, the case is decided based on this evidence. (Admittedly, the judge has an escape route of “fraudulent trial” and so on).
    It seems to me that this difference explains why in Torah law there is no appeal court even though there is an appeal and the judgment is returned “even a hundred times as long as it is literally in its words”, why the halakhic laws of evidence are so strict and the discretion of the judges is quite limited (relative to other legal systems) and more, and I am not in a position to expand on this at this time and let the wise man, etc.

    1. You probably skimmed, which is a shame.
      First, I didn't get to understand where you saw a tone of disdain here. Second, your comment on my comment 3 is not relevant and not necessarily correct. I did not compare there between the laws of evidence in court and the laws of evidence of the Torah, not even by implication. I gave an example of the logic of a certain division. That is why the comment is not relevant. Why is it not necessarily correct? Because, simply put, in the Torah too, the purpose of evidence is to arrive at the truth. The fact that formal rules are defined in the laws of evidence exists in many legal systems, and this is not contradictory. Regarding the question of whether one should not convict on the basis of circumstantial evidence, you assume the Maimonides' method (and even in his case I am not sure that he does not rule this out only out of concern for the credibility of the evidence), but Thos disagrees with him on this. Beyond that, in columns 227-8 I showed that even in ordinary legal systems there is a situation in which evidence of the same level of good evidence is not accepted. And there is more to add to this.
      And the comment about the requirement for certainty beyond a reasonable doubt is a ridiculous criticism. It is clear to everyone that a person can make a mistake, and it seems to me that legal systems are much more aware of this matter than legal scholars. We still need to set a threshold for criminal conviction as far as we can reach. This has nothing to do with arrogance or anything. Furthermore, in legal theory we also find similar requirements, and the assumption that the threshold is simply a formal world is simply not true. Beyond that, the law of deception that you yourself mentioned proves this. If the judge is really supposed to follow the formal threshold and not monitor his own perceptions, as your modesty demands, then there would be no law of deception.
      In short, in the future it is also worth reading more carefully, and if you have already decided to respond after all, it is worth putting a little more thought into it, especially when you are dismissing other people and systems because of hubris.

      1. You probably skimmed my comment too…
        The aspiration to reach the truth exists (theoretically) in every proper legal system. The difference is, of course, first and foremost in the starting assumptions. The civil system (that is, the state's) assumes that judges are able to weigh evidence, among other things, based on their subjective intuitive feelings. For example, a judge can decide that a certain witness is not credible based on “impressions”, even though no contradiction was found in his testimony, or decide that another witness is credible even though his testimony is full of contradictions and errors and ”correct” his testimony as needed for conviction or acquittal, (like the testimony of the main complainant in the Katsav case, which was defined as an “evolving version”), and these are everyday actions.
        In halacha, this is simply not possible. Denied testimony is invalid, partially invalid testimony is completely invalid, etc. The judges' discretion in the face of contradictions and failures in testimony is very limited. The judges are not allowed to believe or reject testimony based on a subjective intuitive impression of the "impression the witness made on them." (I am referring here to Torah law, not to regulations added over the generations). Halacha also a priori disqualifies a series of witnesses (women, slaves, relatives, etc.), even if the judge "feels" that they are telling the truth.
        These and other differences stem, as stated, from the fact that civil law assumes that a judge is able to "balance" evidence and decide whether or not there is still a "reasonable doubt." The Torah does not give the judges such great credit. From her perspective, they must technically check whether the prosecution has passed the test of evidence law, whether the witnesses' testimonies are coherent and without substantial contradictions, etc. The question of whether, despite the testimonies, there remains a "reasonable doubt" does not arise at all in Torah law (except in the case of a "fraudulent trial", in which case the judge does not decide to dismiss the claim but simply leaves the hearing and transfers it to another judge). Judges, according to halacha, are nothing more than "legal technicians".
        Perhaps the difference can be summarized in that in Torah law the aspiration is for substantive justice, but the emphasis is on procedural justice, and in civil law there is also a pretense of substantive justice. Etc.
        Indeed, over the generations various regulations have been enacted that allow judges to rely to some extent on their intuition, such as the reversal of an oath and more. As stated, my remarks referred to Torah law without the regulations and additions added to it by the sages of the generations, most of which were intended to prevent the abuse of the legal process by fraudsters, and did not stem from increasing the credit for the ability of judges to read minds, etc.

        1. I read your words carefully and I also answered them. But you ignore them, and you also repeat and are wrong.

          I disagree with you in claiming that the Torah method brings us closer to the truth than the method that gives the judge discretion. In my opinion, the opposite is true.
          But even if you were right, I have already answered that in my words. A fraudulent law stands against you. After all, in a fraudulent law, the judge does act on the basis of what he himself thinks and evaluates. So what does it matter to me if it is part of the law or beyond the law? In the end, the law is still decided according to the judge's own judgment.
          You wrote that the reversal of an oath is a rule that has been established throughout the generations, but this is of course a mistake in the seer. Exactly the opposite is true. As is known, Maimonides wrote in Refação de Mehal The Sanhedrin, which in the main, even in Torah law, follows the judge's own judgment, in an even more extreme way than in general law:

          A judge must judge in property cases according to the things that his mind inclines to be true and the thing is strong in his heart that it is true, even though there is no clear evidence, and it is not necessary to say whether he knew for sure that the thing is true, that he judges according to what he knows. How is it that a person is bound by an oath in a court of law and tells the judge that a person is trustworthy to him and that his mind trusts in his words that this person is suspicious of the oath? The judge must turn the oath over to his opponent and swear and take it away, since the judge's mind relied on this person's words, even if it were a woman or a slave who was trustworthy to him, since he found the thing strong and true in his heart, he trusts in it and judges, and it is not necessary to say whether he himself knew that it was suspicious. Likewise, if a promissory note is issued before him and a person who relied on him, even a wife or a relative, says to him, "This is a wild one." If he relies on his words, he must tell him that he will not pay except on oath. Or if he has a promissory note on another, he should give it to the one whose order was not violated at all and leave the one whose order was violated in the words of the one, or he should throw the note in front of him and not judge him according to what he sees. Likewise, if someone comes and claims to have a deposit with a certain person who died without leaving a will and gave clear signs, and it was not the one who claims to have entered the house of the person who died, if the judge knows that the deceased is not entitled to have this object and he relies on his opinion that it is not the object of a deceased person, he removes it from the heirs and gives it to the one who valued it and gave signs, and so on. In this case, the matter is not entrusted except to the judge's heart according to what he sees to be the law of truth. Then why did the Torah require two witnesses? When two witnesses come before the judge, he will judge according to their testimony, even though he does not know whether they testified truthfully or falsely.

          This is the reversal of the oath and is of the essence of the law. The situation in which formal evidence is followed rather than the judge's own judgment is a result of the dispersion of Israel among the nations, as he wrote in the Bible:

          All these things are the essence of the law, but since there are many courts of law that are not honest, and even if they were honest in their actions, they are not properly wise and intelligent, most courts of law in Israel have agreed that they will not reverse an oath except on clear evidence, and that they will not damage a deed and lose its validity through the testimony of a woman or an invalid, and so on in all other cases, and that the judge will not rule based on his own opinion or knowledge, so that no layman will say, "My heart believes this and my opinion relies on this," and that no one is excluded from among orphans except on clear evidence, not based on the judge's opinion or on the assessment of the deceased or the claimant. However, if a person who is trustworthy testifies in a matter of all the matters and the judge's opinion is inclined to believe that he is telling the truth, he waits for the judgment and does not reject his testimony and takes it and agrees with the litigants until they acknowledge the witness's words or do compromise or withdraw from the case.

          Only in the 3rd chapter appears the law of deceit:

          And it is prescribed for a judge who knows that a case is fraudulent that he should not say, "We have been deceived," and the collar will be hanging around the necks of the witnesses. He should learn to speak a lie and stay away. How should he act? He should inquire into it and investigate it extensively in the inquiry and investigation of the laws of souls if it seems to him in his opinion [that there is no deceit in it, he cuts off the case according to the testimony, but if his heart was cut off] that there is deceit in it, or his opinion does not rely on the words of the witnesses even though he cannot disprove them, or his opinion is inclined that this person in the case is a deceiver and a man of deceit and has betrayed the witnesses even though they are competent and have testified according to their integrity, and this is the reason, or if it seems to him that among all the cases there are other things there that are hidden and they do not want to be revealed, all these things and the like, it is forbidden for him to cut off the case, but he should withdraw himself from this case and judge the one whose heart is complete in the matter, and after all, the matters are devoted to the heart, and the Scripture says that the judgment belongs to God.

          In Halacha 4 he speaks of a punishment that is not in accordance with the law:

          And it is prescribed for a judge who knows that he is being deceived in a case that he should not say, "We are deceived," and the collar will be hanging around the necks of the witnesses. He should learn to speak a lie and stay away. How should he act? He should inquire into him and investigate a lot in the demand and investigation of the laws of souls if it seems to him in his opinion [that there is no deceit in him, he cuts off the case according to the testimony, but if his heart was cut off] that there is deceit in him, or his opinion does not rely on the words of the witnesses even though he cannot disprove them, or his opinion is inclined that this person in question is a deceiver and a man of deceit and has betrayed the witnesses even though they are competent and according to their integrity they testified and this is the reason, or if it seems to him that among all the matters there are other things there that are hidden and they do not want to be revealed, all these things and the like are forbidden for him to cut off the case, but he should remove himself from this case and judge the one whose heart is complete in the matter, and after all, the matters are devoted to the heart and the Scripture says that the judgment belongs to God.

          After all, you think that in the main law (not in a fraudulent law) in Halacha we follow what our arrogant judge's opinion tends to be, and the matter is strong in his heart. Isn't this equivalent to the formulation of "beyond a reasonable doubt"? And in fact, it is clear that there is a fraudulent law and an unjust punishment that are based on the judge's own judgment even today. In short, it is simply the complete opposite of what you wrote.

          1. In the book of Tevet 3, the Maimonides concludes that although a judge has the authority to rule on the merits of the law, according to his strong impression, most courts in Israel feared the slippery slope of judges who were dishonest or unwise, and therefore refrained from ruling based on estimates, but rather pressured the litigants to reach a compromise. And if this was the case in the days of the Geonim and the Rishonim, then what would Avtariyahu have said? With blessings, Yafa'r

  3. What is the source of the fact that if there is a disagreement among doctors and the majority say that one should not desecrate Shabbat, one follows the majority? Is this a primary source, in the Gemara?

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  4. I wanted to ask about the halacha you brought from the Masoud:
    B. They do not follow the majority with caution. Even if there were nine Akmon and Israel A in a courtyard, and one of them moved to another courtyard and a landslide fell on him there, they are supervised, since the first one’s standing order remained in place, they were considered to be half for half. But if they were all displaced and at the time of their displacement one of them moved to another courtyard and fell on him, they are not supervised over him; since the first one’s standing order was displaced from its place, they said: Every one who moved more than one is a pervert.

    Regarding the final part, it says that if they were all displaced and at the time of their displacement one of them moved – there is no supervision. Statistically, it is possible that there is a 1 in 3 chance that there is a Jew buried under the rubble, and only because of the rule that every one who moved more than one is a pervert, there is no supervision. How does this fit in with what you wrote that where we have a reasonable fear of a fiqun, we will desecrate the Sabbath?

    1. Indeed, the ruling is extremely puzzling. It seems to assume that the difference between a fixed and a fixed one has a statistical origin and is not a halachic distinction (I have dealt with this in previous columns). It seems to me that a distinction should be made between a situation in which a person is in slight doubt of a fixed rite, and a doubt that a fixed rite will come upon him. In the first case, the Sabbath is profaned, but in the second case, the law of spikot is applied. It seems to me that this is somewhat similar to the explanations I suggested for the fixed law (in columns 227-8), but one should think about it. I made a similar distinction in column 325 between a fixed rite and something that is not a fixed rite. If there is doubt that there are flies in the box, then closing the box is prohibited under the law of a fixed rite and is applied according to the law of spikot. But if there are clearly flies in the box and there is doubt that they will be caught by closing it, this does not mean that it is permissible.
      I am convinced that when such a case comes before a judge for a practical decision, he will find it permissible and even obligatory to desecrate Shabbat in the second case as well.

      1. What do you mean by the words “it is doubtful whether the Picun will come upon him”?1

        1. As I explained, it is like a doubt in a Risha's case. There is doubt whether he will be in a state of doubt or whether he is in a state where it is doubtful whether he will die. Like the division of Tus's book between shooting an arrow at the tool and throwing the tool from the roof.

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