Birth rate and economy

Another view, in brief:

As the fertility rate decreases, the population ages and the nation gradually disappears. As is claimed to be happening in Europe and during the Arab takeover (you can get an impression by watching the series “Allah Islam”).

Also from an economic perspective, a young population is necessary to sustain the economy and an aging population does not contribute to the economy in ”Ngela”. From an economic perspective, we must encourage those who are not really studying to go to work - which is increasingly happening in the haredi public. Therefore, we must also find the smart way to a professional army, and not compulsory conscription, which would solve several other problems in our country.

I would love to hear thoughts on this view.

The ultra-Orthodox sector in Israel is actually analogous to Muslim immigrants to Europe, only with them the extent and speed of the damage is significantly greater.

As usual, you continue to fall into the trap of liberalism.
You continue to only refer to the literal content of things and ignore the creative, interesting content of the matter.

Very suitable for those who claim that there is nothing to learn from the Torah.

Who is the final arbiter and what are your words directed at?

“I completely agree with the argument.”
“There is no ethical or other problem with not funding and encouraging childbirth.”

The final arbiter: And in your opinion, is there an ethical or other problem with not funding and encouraging childbirth? What is it and why? (Specifically in the Jewish people, in the State of Israel, or is it something completely general?)

It's kind of like discussing whether there was a moral problem in putting Jews on trains for free because they don't have money.
This is a discussion that stems from closing your eyes. Not from intelligence.

I don't understand your short formulations and analogies. What is the problem with not financing a birth and is it a problem unique to Jews in Israel?

You ignore the claim. The problem was not the fact that Jews were put on trains. Even today, Jews get on trains.

The problem is with interest. And the rabbi ignores this.
And this is coherent with his statement that there is nothing to learn from the Torah. He ignores the interest of what is written.
It seems that the rabbi erased the reality of man so that he could only refer to the murmuring of the words.

Okay, so tell me what the interest is and what the problem is with it, and why do we have to pay for encouraging births, and is it a need only for the Jewish people in Israel or is it something general for all creatures in the world? Are you putting me on a quiz course or what?

Regarding the comparison of the Haredim in Israel to the Arabs in Europe. In addition to the basic fact that they are our brothers. There is a question here of looking at where the Haredi public is headed over time. To a national revival for the sake of repairing the world in the kingdom of Shadi or the separatism of the shtetl. I believe in the first option.

Zevulun, you continue your stubborn line of turning a blind eye.
I can only imagine you standing there reassuring the Jews who are boarding the trains. After all, the Nazis said that they were simply being sent to labor camps. And you will open a discussion with them about whether it is moral to crowd so many Jews just for work.

All out of innocence and turning a blind eye.

I understand that you expect me to try to formulate the argument that I understand from you and you will tell me yes, no, black and white. I don't feel like joining this quiz scene.

In the year 1571,

R. Meir Anshel Rothschild of Frankfurt, showed that it was possible to turn birth into a factor of economic power. He scattered his five sons among five major capitals – Paris, London, Vienna, Frankfurt and Naples – and each established a financial center in his city, so that the Rothschild family became a dominant factor in the global economy. The symbol of the Rothschild family was a clenched fist from which five arrows issued, named after the verse: As arrows in the hand of a mighty man – So are the sons of youth. They will not be ashamed, for they will speak to their enemies at the gate–.

Children are a blessing, children are joy, and children are strength – when you invest in their education and encourage them to excel, and not necessarily in the economic field. There is also a Swiss branch of the Rothschild family, which did not produce any extremely wealthy individuals, but did produce educators, such as Rabbi Yaakov Rothschild (father of Rebbetzin Yemima Mizrahi), and Dr. Moshe Rothschild (founder of the ‘Ma'yanei Hayeshua’ Medical Center).

So bring children, and invest in them. The investment is worth it!

With blessings, Sh”tz

If we mentioned Rabbi Anshel Rothschild, I will tell a joke about him that I heard from my late father.

Rabbi Anshel came in a poor man and said to him: ‘Gemara’. Rabbi Anshel was asked: ‘What do you want?’. The poor man answered: ‘Gem”A – R”T: ‘Got margan R’ Anshel’ (and in English: Good mourning R. Anshel)

And again the poor man said: ‘Gem”A’. They asked R’ Anshel: ‘And what this time?’. The poor man answered: ‘Gem”A – R”T: ‘Give money R’ Anshel’ (and in English: Give money R’ Anshel). R’ Anshel gave him money.

And again the poor man said, "Gammar." R. Anshel asked, "And what this time?" The poor man replied, "Gammar." R. Anshel gave him an addition.

In short: by saying "Gammar," you can hold a successful fundraiser 🙂

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