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Coronavirus vaccines

שו”תCategory: philosophyCoronavirus vaccines
asked 5 years ago

Peace and blessings,
The state and government are trying to encourage people to get vaccinated.
For this purpose, it uses various incentives.
Opponents of vaccinations cry out about the coercion of the matter. Is there any justice in their words? Isn’t it the state’s place to coerce?
Opponents of vaccines claim that they should not be forced to undergo medical procedures that they fear.
In addition, there is a wave of people on social media who are trying to convince their friends to get vaccinated, and opponents of vaccination are crying out against the misinformation and incitement against those who are not vaccinated. Is there any truth in what they say about this?
 

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מיכי Staff answered 5 years ago

It is clear that one cannot force a person to get vaccinated, but it is certainly possible and appropriate to explain why it is appropriate to get vaccinated, and certainly to restrict those who have not been vaccinated (so that they cannot enter places and work with a crowd) so that it does not harm those who think that the vaccine does protect. If a person chooses not to get vaccinated, let them bear the consequences.

טולגינוס replied 5 years ago

It is known that three things are: punishment, consequences, and prevention. Punishment how – Those who have not been vaccinated will pay double the TV license fee and will not be able to thaw land for the next five years. Consequences how – Those who have not been vaccinated will pay full hospital fees if they get sick with Corona. Prevention how – Those who have not been vaccinated will not be able to enter places with a crowd.
Punishment and consequences apparently depend on choice, and those who, for example, are medically forced not to get vaccinated have no reason to punish them or subject them to consequences. But prevention simply has nothing to do with choice. It seems that here you are only dealing with prevention and yet you are attaching it to choice. Why is this not riding on two horses?

(I should point out that I myself never distinguish between punishment and consequences. Punishment and consequences are simply an incentive for them to do things and nothing more).

מיכי Staff replied 5 years ago

You present it too sharply. There is room to consider those who were raped and not vaccinated, even in the context of prevention.

טולגינוס replied 5 years ago

And what about the consequences (in the case of illness - increased cost of treatment, cancellation of sick and unemployment benefits, poor prioritization, etc.) and punishment (exit despite not being vaccinated - fine, arrest, license revocation, prohibition on keeping pets, etc.) for someone who voluntarily chose not to get vaccinated?

And does it depend on the motive that he claims is motivating him - indifference, fear of side effects or unknown results, does not believe in vaccines, does not want a prick and local pain in the vaccination area for two days, etc.

מיכי replied 5 years ago

In my opinion, there is no place for punishment at all. A person is allowed to act as he sees fit as long as he does not harm others. Establishing payment for treatment is, in principle, possible.

טולגינוס replied 5 years ago

This may be a silly request, but could you please briefly formulate the justification for distinguishing between bearing the consequences of a personal decision and punishment?

מיכי Staff replied 5 years ago

This seems obvious to me. Punishment is given to someone who behaved wrongly (in my opinion, it should be wrong even in his opinion). If someone behaved according to the best of his understanding, there is no reason to punish him. But of course he must bear the consequences of his actions and decisions. And should I bear the consequences (get infected)?
Of course, I assume that punishment is a sanction/reward and not for prevention or deterrence alone. Prevention or deterrence can also be applied to someone who is not guilty or who behaved correctly in his opinion (for example, someone who breaks the law because he does not agree with it).

עמדת הרב ערוסי replied 5 years ago

In the words of Rabbi G. Bader, P.A.

For Rabbi Ratzon Arusi's position, see the article: "Restrict movement for those who refuse to be vaccinated" (on the Channel 7 website).

Best regards, Menashe Fishel Halevi Zuchmir

טולגינוס replied 5 years ago

Thanks

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