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Definition of concepts

שו”תCategory: philosophyDefinition of concepts
asked 5 years ago

Hello Rabbi, I heard the first lesson in the above series and two questions came to my mind about what was said. I would be happy to clarify:
A. The rabbi said that Aristotle defines by genus and species, when the rabbi explained that the first is the significant matter, and the second is a unique matter, distinguishing it from the other species in the genus. For example, you brought up that a person is a ‘living being that speaks.’ I was unable to understand why it is not enough to define by ‘speaking’, as if it were creating a group of ‘persons’ only. That is, there is no more ‘speaking’ in a genus that is not ‘living.’ Unless the purpose of the definition is not only to point out a particular group and cut it off from the rest, but also to characterize it, but I do not think the rabbi mentioned anything like that.
on. The rabbi concluded by saying that there is a difference between Aristotle and Plato, whether the definition is trying to recognize something that exists (the idea of ​​_) or a useful fictitious process. I didn’t quite understand what it meant that there is a real idea, only that it was not realized, that is, why isn’t it really simpler that a definition is the combination of a group of characteristics into one word.
Thank you very much.


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מיכי Staff answered 5 years ago
A. First, in this case this species does not exist under another genus. But if you want a general outline, you need a genus and a species. Second, as you wrote, the genus adds understanding of the context. B. The question is not what is simpler but what is more correct. I brought arguments there in favor of the ontological (Platonic) interpretation. For example, the debate over concepts.

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הראל replied 5 years ago

You did say that Plato's method (which is your opinion) has significance for arguing about concepts and definitions. But I didn't quite understand what the argument was, that is, what the claim is that there is some idea, for me right now it doesn't mean anything. As I think you said, it is implied that there should be a connection between the various characteristics, but I'm not sure, and I'm not sure why that is true. I would be happy if the Rabbi could expand on that.

מיכי Staff replied 5 years ago

It seems a bit absurd to expand here on a topic I gave a series of lessons on. If you have a specific question (preferably after you listen to the lessons), you can post it here.

הראל replied 5 years ago

Absolutely fine, I understand completely, I'll come back to ask (if necessary) after I finish listening to everything. I'll just note that the questions weren't associative, but about things that were said and that I think the rabbi tried to explain in the first lesson, so I decided to ask even though I didn't finish, and it seems to me that the question is specific (although the answer to it may be long, I have no idea).

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