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God and Nature

שו”תCategory: philosophyGod and Nature
asked 7 months ago

Hello, Your Honor, I know that according to the Rabbi, God does not intervene in nature, and I saw a lesson from the Rabbi in another context about an accidental murderer, where the Lord calls two people together, one deserving death and the other exile, in one inn, and something falls on so-and-so and kills him, and the killer exiles him. How does the Rabbi explain this if not intervention in nature?
Of course, I could bring other examples from the Gemara about God’s intervention in nature. This is simply what the Rabbi gives as an example in his lessons.

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מיכי Staff answered 7 months ago

Why don’t you greet me with peace too (but only my honor)? 🙂
From an accidental murderer, I only brought evidence that even in the Sages, divine involvement is only in accidental acts, but acts of choice are in the hands of man. In my opinion, this is also not true (in most cases).

מני replied 7 months ago

Because your honor goes before you.

Can you explain in which cases this is true?

מיכי Staff replied 7 months ago

But I follow him. Don't I deserve some kind of blessing too? Is he hiding me? 🙂
That's never true. In my opinion, there is no divine involvement, neither in nature nor in the actions of man (except for sporadic cases that no one has a way of detecting). Chazal and the Talmud thought there was, and distinguished between intentional and accidental because they thought that nature was truly in God's hands. I don't accept that, at least not for the generations after the end of prophecy and miracles.

מני replied 7 months ago

Can you explain what sporadic cases are?

מיכי Staff replied 7 months ago

There are dictionaries online. You can search them. Sporadic is accidental, esoteric. These are isolated cases, not something systematic. I cannot rule out divine involvement in a particular case that no one saw. My argument deals with the ongoing conduct of the world.

מני replied 7 months ago

I know what sporadic is, I just thought you had a certain thesis about divine involvement in nature based on this…so maybe divine involvement really is in the initial process that no one can detect and it unfolds until we see normal cause and effect that we interpret as nature.

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