Just a wine
[15.5, 12:46] .: [15.5, 12:42] .: Is it permissible to drink just wine?
[15.5, 12:42] .: Because there is no wedding wine on the shelves in the supermarket, and certainly not wine from the Nescah family.
[15.5, 12:43] .: It’s just like P.T. Platter and the like or mulled wine
[15.5, 12:46] .: Please give your opinion, Your Honor.
[15.5, 12:46] .: Thank you
In general, sages’ decrees exist even where the taste does not belong. Of course, there are quite a few exceptions, and it depends on the circumstances. It also depends on how much the taste does not belong (even where I drink with the Gentile himself, the taste is not that strong. There are things that bring us closer together). In any case, if there is a need, there is room for leniency. The permission to boil is explained in the Gemara (A”Z 30) and therefore is part of the categories of the decree.
The permission for boiled wine in the Gemara is in addition to the previous ruling on wine that is not boiled, and boiled wine is exactly the same as wine on the shelves and cooking in the house of a Jew who allows the rabbi, etc.
Regarding the strong taste or not, there is a small barrier in cooking or just wine in wine that the Gentile himself brings to you, who prepared and poured it, this is enough to remind us of the separation between a Jew and a Gentile.
Does your honor agree with the points I wrote?
Thank you again, many thanks.
I don't know if your honor agrees. But I tend to agree, as I wrote to you. Except that there is a problem with permitting even if the reason is null and void, and so I would order this mainly where necessary. There are many decrees that do not belong today. Lest a musical instrument be repaired, signs be worn out, and so on. And where the reason no longer belongs at all, and not just in a particular situation (like on our supermarket shelf).
Apparently the Sages agreed with this when they wrote that a baby is not a mansher and prohibits drinking wine, and the Ramah also brought a community that wrote yes and taught a small right over them. What you wrote that there is a problem with permitting even the tasteless does not belong here because the Sages have limited the prohibition and cannot provide all possible examples.
Am I right in saying these things?
Apparently, boiled wine should have been prohibited just like wine owned by a gentile, and not that it was prepared for you or that you drink from what you personally bring.?
No, as I wrote. The Shulchan Ar-Rahman says that one should not read by candlelight even if it is two stories high and there is no fear of a sistah. This is despite the fact that in Medina it is permitted to read with a guard. Here too, you could argue that this permission can be extended to other circumstances.
As mentioned, I wrote that there is room for leniency when necessary. I do not see the Shulchan Ar-Rahman as a binding authority and you are allowed to think differently from it. But I would not bring evidence from the Rahma (and it only teaches a right and does not permit it), and I am not sure enough to permit it in a blanket manner.
No, as I wrote. The Shul says that one should not read by candlelight even if it is two stories high and there is no fear of a system. This is despite the fact that Medina DaGemara permits reading with a guard. Here too, you could argue that this permission can be extended to other circumstances.
As stated, I wrote that there is room for leniency when necessary. I do not see the Shul as a binding authority and you are allowed to think differently from it. But I would not bring evidence from the Shul, and I am not sure enough to permit it in a blanket manner.
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