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asked 5 years ago

Does the rabbi have any explanation for the admiration that the masses of the House of Israel (especially the observant and traditional) show for Netanyahu? I’m not even asking how it is possible to admire such an immoral person, but rather how they turned a blind eye to all the damage he causes to the country due to his concern for his personal affairs?
And by the way, in these elections, does the rabbi intend to deviate from his recent custom and this time vote for someone?


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מיכי Staff answered 5 years ago
not. Probably yes.

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Yoyo replied 5 years ago

Can you tell me who?

מיכי Staff replied 5 years ago

I haven't made a final decision yet. I thought about Saar, but I'm still waiting to see developments and get to know more about the people on his list.

I will offer what seems to be a broken and humiliated answer, why those who are generally seen as close to religion [traditional, ultra-Orthodox and religious] are generally drawn to a form of government over the holy people of a person accused of bribery, fraud and breach of trust, despite all the filthy disgrace and rot that this brings upon the entire people.
And those who appear to be less committed to religion are not defiled by this defilement.
[Of course, this is through the healthy tool that the Creator gave us to survive in the universe, this tool is called ‘generalization’] There are some traditional, ultra-Orthodox and religious who are disgusted by the reign of a person accused of bribery, fraud and breach of trust over a people who are supposed to be a light to the nations. And they will not vote for a party that will not commit to establishing a government without this disgrace. And there are probably [I don't know, but I assume there may be some] secularists who will support such a despicable government.
But by and large, the image of the division seems clear.
A secularist is disgusted by the impurity and disgrace of a person accused of bribery, fraud, and breach of trust at the head of the people.
Those who seem close to religion are not at all ashamed, not disgusted. And they even seem to enjoy this gaping hole…

טולגינוס replied 5 years ago

Yael Kagame and the gentleman is being made to do it, your words seem strange to me and perhaps mixed with parody. In my opinion, there is no surprise at all about those who think that Netanyahu is a good (perhaps very) prime minister and, in particular, better than his competitors. And the issue of the scumbag fund, it is certainly possible to postpone dealing with it for a few years for the benefit of the matter. You will be amazed at this, out loud, at how amazing it is. [And I will also add my personal opinion that the Likud is a very bad and negative party, but Netanyahu the man, if not the one who is the head of the Likud government and its ramifications, could have been an excellent prime minister, and on foreign policy issues, within the constraints that can be recognized, it seems to me that he has conducted himself well, as all Israeli prime ministers of their generations have done. And regarding corruption, although I think he is guilty of all the charges against him, I also think, as Ruth Gavison said, that the judges will not be able to administer justice because there are faces here and there and the social pressure in every milieu is very strong.]

ולישרי לב שמחה replied 5 years ago

It seems simple that the righteous become the elixir of life for him, the unrighteous become the elixir of death for him. This is a clear and unambiguous answer from Chazal. Which mainly relies on a basic explanation of the word of prophecy [from G‑d] and the righteous will walk in them and criminals will stumble in them. In them and nothing else.
It is clear that a people who are supposed to be a light to the nations are a disgrace to the world and a desecration of G‑d; I doubt how many of them were there from the 6 days of Genesis.
There is hardly a reformed nation that would appoint a school principal in a remote town, a man who is accused of such serious offenses relevant to the fulfillment of his role.
What's more, he enslaves his role and the good of the people, his life and his property to an attempt to escape from prison through the government. And to that end, he endangers the people and their future, literally. [And it is irrelevant whether he is ultimately found guilty or not. The question is ethical and moral, for a people with lofty morals and values, and in fact…
For the prison and the trial, only evidence beyond a reasonable doubt is relevant. Not what is being discussed now]

וכשהם יורדים... replied 5 years ago

Personally.
I stopped reciting the blessing every morning in the name and kingdom that no gentile has done to me.
It is simply that now the virtue of Israel is not evident. [And for a thing, or at a time when it is not evident, it is not certain that honest people would have recited the blessing in the name and kingdom]
A nation that repeatedly rules over itself [under the auspices of rabbis who are supposedly honest and spiritual shepherds] is accused of bribery, fraud, and breach of trust, how can one recite the blessing in the name and kingdom that no other nation has done while other nations do not commit such a vile and despicable act?

I wonder what the rabbi thinks about the blessing in a situation where the virtue of Israel is not evident?

אישומים מפוקפקים replied 5 years ago

In B”D’ Nissan P”A

The religious and traditional right-wing public in particular is suspicious of both the media and the law enforcement and judicial systems, which are suspected of being biased towards the left, a fine pose on Seder night, but not of judgment 🙂

The charges against the Prime Minister are dubious, if not delusional.

What kind of ‘bribe’ are we talking about? The ‘Walla’ website was also left-wing and hostile to Netanyahu during Elovitch’. So publishing a few positive articles about Sara Netanyahu amidst a sea of negative writing is a ‘benefit’?

And just as he did not receive –, he did not give anything. The agreement to the merger of Bezeq and ’IS’ Approved by dozens of officials and economic and legal advisors after years of scrutiny, and Netanyahu's approval as Minister of Communications is only formal.

Even the proposal to slow down the privatization of the landline telephone market in exchange for a commitment by Bezeq to invest in infrastructure, which Filber said was offered to him by Netanyahu in a conversation of a few minutes, is professionally necessary, since rapid and unbridled privatization harms infrastructure.

Incidentally, this principle, that privatization does not benefit sectors in need of extensive investment in infrastructure, such as health, transportation and education, was taught to me by my former neighbor, Mr. Roni Alsheich, many years ago, and therefore I was surprised that in his job at the Ministry of Communications, Mr. Alsheich forgot his insights. And so 🙂

The whole "bribe deal" Based on the ‘testimony’ the plenum of contradictions of Netanyahu's media advisor, given after pressure and threats, in which a woman with whom he had a romantic relationship was presented to him, and he understood that if he did not ‘provide the material’ that his investigators were seeking against Netanyahu – the embarrassing affair would be published and he would get into trouble with his family.

More bizarre is the 2000 case in which the CEO of Yedioth Ahronoth tried to blackmail Netanyahu into agreeing to the ‘Israel Hayom’ law, a law that was about to pass the Knesset with the support of 43 MKs who were spoiled by a lot of ‘sympathetic coverage’ by Yedioth Ahronoth’. Netanyahu, who did not accept the blackmail offer, is accused of breach of trust.

So what remains? Case 1000, in which he received champagne and cigars from his friend, billionaire Milchan, when the prosecution admits that these were given not as bribes but as gifts between friends. Here too, it is impossible to see what the "reward" was? Netanyahu's conversation with the US Secretary of State due to the US passport being revoked due to his security assistance to Israel is the Prime Minister's obligation to take care of a person who was harmed due to his actions for the security of the state.

Even Netanyahu's appeal to the Minister of Finance to extend the tax exemption for returning residents and establish a "free trade zone" in the Jordan Valley is a "free trade zone" in the Jordan Valley. They are things that are beneficial to the country's economy, and are required by Netanyahu's vigorous activity to encourage investments and investors.

The greatest severity that I see as a religious person is the acceptance of champagne that is ‘just wine’ for the kitchen in the Prime Minister's house, where it was probably also distributed to official guests, and that will not be done. The Prime Minister's official residence should be run in a kosher manner and not be disgusted by ’just wine’. For this, the judge should sentence Netanyahu to a large financial fine and several more months of community service as Prime Minister, beyond his term 🙂

And I will turn to the ‘pursuers of justice’ to deal with the problems of judges sitting in the court of an insurance company represented by their spouses. And they rule in their favor; In the problems of state attorneys who dismiss an expert witness to change his opinion, ‘rejecting a witness’ in plain Hebrew; and police officers and attorneys who leak confidential and selective information from an investigation to the media, and torture and abuse interrogators, etc’ etc’…

Greetings, The Gatekeeper

You and I have no ability to judge. That's the job of judges. And any defendant can think that he hasn't crossed the criminal threshold. Or at least that they won't be able to prove his crimes beyond a reasonable doubt.
So what?
This isn't the discussion.
Values are supposed to be for everyone.
And honest people don't even appoint someone accused of such serious offenses as a Zucchini Guard.
At least until it's proven in court.

An honest nation, let alone a nation that's supposed to be a 'light to the nations'; a son of the son of K.
Certainly not a teacher or a school principal or a mayor.
Since not someone who holds the future and fate of the nation in his hands…

מתנחל. אבל ישר. replied 5 years ago

I am ashamed.
But again and again I do not believe the poor sight.
The left actually had a prime minister who lifted the disengagement [not Bibi who voted in the Knesset 3 times …in favor. Of course. But Olmert.] who even planned a gathering of all of Judea and Samaria… simply the dream of their lives…
But as soon as the suspicions were known and the police began to investigate, they dismissed him. Even’ before the conclusions and recommendations of the police. Even’ before the recommendations of the prosecutor's office. Before the decision of a legal advisor. Certainly before a hearing. Certainly before the trial…
As befits honest people..
It is precisely the right, the rabbis and the whole gang that continue with the accused of bribery, fraud and breach of trust…
Values? Honesty. Clean hands? Love of Israel? What is there in this humiliation?
With great sorrow, disgrace, and shame. An honest settler.

עמנואל replied 5 years ago

What's the whole story? The right doesn't (and rightly so) believe in the media, the prosecutor's office, and the courts. And whoever wrote here about Olmert has no evidence. Just as the left has no loyalty to the people of Israel, it also has no loyalty to any of its ranks (I'm not talking about blind loyalty. Loyalty at all), and so they love to oust the head of their camp day and night. I'm convinced that when Olmert was caught, many from this camp were happy about it in their hearts. There is no honesty on the left. People who are delusional and lack self-awareness (and not as honest as the right is accused of being dishonest. The one who rejects with his big mouth is much more disrespectful). I haven't known a single secular person (and I don't know quite a few) who doesn't cut corners. All the honesty they talk about is a bluff. I've come to realize in my short life that a person who doesn't have the fear of God (and not every religious person has it) cannot be honest.

מתנחל אבל ישר replied 5 years ago

What is in the heart of every 1 I will not allow to know.
Only God will see the heart.

But what is in the actions is what they all see.

And what they all see is rabbis and the right who repeatedly re-enthrone a man accused of bribery, fraud and breach of trust. They see that the people are being enslaved in order to escape from prison. And they ignore it… and they see that the deposed symbol is only serving at the investigation stage. On the 1st side, honesty [extreme in my opinion?] On the 2nd side, readiness to abandon the good of the people, their future, their lives and their success, and to hand it over to someone who plays for nothing in order to escape from prison. 0 honesty 0 values, everything is hypocrisy and lies…
This is what you see with your eyes.

A settler who opens his eyes.

מיכי Staff replied 5 years ago

And when they do,
I don't believe in the virtue of Israel in its factual meaning (that we are truly different in some genetic or essential sense from the Gentiles). I think that being a virtuous people is a mission (that we behave as a virtuous people) and not a given situation. In any case, it has nothing to do with whether we actually do it. We thank God that He chose us to be His virtuous people. It's like the Haredim who don't thank God for the establishment of the state because of how it looks. He gave us a gift and we use it improperly, so we don't thank Him?! What the hell! It's like someone who received a gift from a friend and threw it into the sea, and now doesn't thank him because the gift is in the sea.

In the 4th of Nissan

Olmert's conduct was always questionable, but he always went 'under the radar' until he began to provoke the rule of the Supreme Court and the 'gatekeepers' by appointing Chaim Ramon as Minister of Justice, and then Prof. Daniel Friedman, who were not followers of the Supreme Court.

Chaim Ramon was removed by opening a case for kissing back a soldier who started it with him. She didn't even want to complain until they pressed her. The court wasn't too moved by the affair either and sentenced him to community service without disgrace. Prof. Friedman could not be removed by finding fault with him, so they brought out Olmert's "spare fund" that he had appointed.

Olmert's "spare fund" included hundreds of thousands of shekels that were transferred by a contractor to his brother who was in financial distress, and the Supreme Court acquitted him of this as well, reducing his sentence from six years to one and a half (which he received in another case), on the argument that the mayor did not know about the money that the contractor transferred to his brother. The city engineer who carried out the mayor's order, Shag, did not stand up to the Supreme Court judges' arguments, and he was sent to seven years in prison. Nevertheless, Olmert had the ‘right’ to carry out the disengagement. And the year and a half was shortened for ‘good behavior’ which included keeping secret documents in prison 🙂

The right to disengagement was more appropriate for Arik Sharon, whose son received a ‘salary’of gratuities’ from Uncle Appel, who happened to need the Prime Minister’s approval in the ‘Greek Island’ affair. Miraculously, the case was closed by Justice Meni Mazuz, exactly the same week that Sharon announced the disengagement. Even the High Court judges noted in their ruling that the special political situation – Requires extreme caution in suspicions against the Prime Minister, and decided to turn a blind eye to the millions that the contractor transferred to his son…

Against the hundreds of thousands and millions in cash transferred by contractors to the Prime Minister–s son or brother– at Netanyahu's, they managed to find ‘cigars and champagne’ that he received as a gift from his billionaire friend and were transferred to the pantry of his official residence to be used as a treat for his guests, who are guests of the state. And a few marginal sympathetic articles that the ‘Walla’ website allowed to publish like a drop in the water the attacks and denials of the reporters of that website.

This is what came out of years of work by dozens of researchers at a cost of millions. The ’phishing’ was unable to find any transfer of funds to either Netanyahu or his family.

Best regards, The Gatekeeper

As a rabbi, not only is he really, really inaccurate in the facts, he makes up half-truths and distorts facts. But worse.
And for that it is very difficult to make a reply... [Rambam Hal's Reply to False Opinions and Opinions] I will tell you a story.
I moved into a new apartment, and before Shabbat I turned on the clock on Shabbat. And I discovered a robbery and a break-in. The clock turns off the lights on time but does not turn them on in the morning. I inquired and an electrician explained to me that the installer [on behalf of the contractor] like that will not succeed. The clock also turns off the current from the clock. So that it does not know that time is passing and it needs to be turned on... A healthy installation cuts off the current only after the clock, and the clock continues to operate and turns on the electricity on time.
And for our purposes. Even those who have a mind think [and they are the minority as we know] if they decide to sit down for conspiracies and nonsense, their mind itself is also captivated by conspiracies. Then his wisdom [if there is any, the majority opinion says there is none] will not stand up to him at all. And he will write nonsense, like what you wrote. And there is a choice on the part of common sense or…

עמנואל replied 5 years ago

To the settler

Get out of your movie. No one warned you about this, but maybe you're 16 (I hope so), so you're not aware of yourself or don't know human nature. First of all, a truly honest person doesn't declare himself to be honest. It's simply a lack of self-awareness. Man is not actually born honest. He is not born honest, but a savage and a liar (a savage will be born. All lies). It's just that a person who fears God understands that it won't pay him to steal and cheat because he won't have any blessing or success in the long run from it, but on the contrary, he will lose out. And anyone who is over the age of 16 knows that there are many trials and temptations for a person and it's easy to talk about others, but when it comes to your own flesh, the vast majority of people fail unless they have the fear of God that I spoke about. I personally don't trust anyone who declares himself to be honest. Such a person is arrogant and frivolous, and he is sure that when the moment of truth comes, he will fall. And see the entry of the moral knight, the prophet of the left, Amos Oz (if the things said about him are true, this will not surprise anyone on the right). In our case, no one on the right really believes in the attorney general's office and the left, nor in the courts. Without any calculations. Truly and sincerely they do not. These are not people who were elected by the right and represent it. They were imposed on it from the outside. These people are the ones who seek to harm the right and the Jewish people (they do not believe in the Jewish people. This is an unconstitutional concept) and it is like believing the Palestinians in these matters. Even if the things were true (as someone said that the 2000 and 4000 cases are ridiculous) we are all sure that the left is definitely devoid of the fear of God (unless someone there believes in karma. And that does not seem to me enough against the force of instinct). They sin against them and in any case they have no mandate to accuse anyone of a sin that they themselves are guilty of.

What exactly are the calculations here in your opinion? To enthrone someone who wants to harm us or is he a complete fool? Don't you realize that all of this is manipulation by the crumbling left to try to impose its imagined values on the rest of the people? When reality doesn't work, then they start making up things about the customs of the opposing camp (this has been around since the communist era). Even after all the confusion of the righteous (who are not righteous), from the left, Bibi is still the best (and I have never voted for Likud).

I always say that righteousness is the partner of evil (Reish Segula). Help against it. And as we see with our own eyes, the left in the world (especially in the US) supports Iran, terrorists, terrorists, the Chinese, and all the various kingdoms of evil.

In the case of J. Nisan Tashaf

As I have shown above, the possibility of accusing Netanyahu of a bribery deal rests on the chicken's knees of Nir Hefetz's testimony, which was given under pressure and threats and refuted from within. The mere reference to the website "Vella" to improve coverage of Netanyahu is "everyday action", as is the rejection of a significant part of his requests by the website.

Even the decisions of the Ministry of Communications to approve the merger of "Bezeq" and "Yis" and to prefer to demand that "Bezeq" invest in infrastructure over opening the market to wild competition that would close the loophole for infrastructure development – These are reasonable decisions in themselves, but there is still room to argue for a ’breach of trust’ because Netanyahu was prohibited from making a decision that benefited Elovitch’, whose website he owned brought him a ‘privilege’ Porta. In publishing several sympathetic articles.

Here it should be noted that, unlike Jewish law, which requires a judge to disqualify himself from hearing the case of someone who brought him a ‘privilege’ even if it is a ’sympathetic coverage’, since ‘bribing’ is also prohibited– Israeli law does not see a ‘privilege’ in the form of ‘sympathetic coverage’ A blanket reason for demanding that a judge disqualify himself depends on the extent to which there is a real concern that the ruling will be biased. Judge (retd.) Rachel Shalev-Gretel, in her article on “Bribery of Things” between Jewish and Israeli law, commented on the problematic nature of this vague definition, and called for clear rules to be established when “sympathetic coverage” given to a judge requires his disqualification and when not.

If Israeli law refused to establish a blanket norm for judges to disqualify themselves due to receiving “sympathetic coverage,” it is all the more problematic to apply such a blanket norm to an elected politician. After all, the whole point of politics in a democratic country is that elected officials make decisions so that the public will give them ‘sympathetic coverage’ and support them at the ballot box’. If a politician is required not to make decisions in the expectation of ’sympathetic coverage’ – then we will have to prohibit him from making any decisions 🙂

On the surface, it seems that it is simple for the legislator that all decisions of politicians are ‘affected’ by the positive application of a ‘sympathetic coverage request’, and for this purpose, there are control mechanisms, professional, legal and political, that prevent the politician from being a ‘single judge’ and examine the reasonableness of his decisions.

However, if we are trying to set rules of the game that will prohibit politicians from making decisions for the sake of ‘fan coverage’ – we need to set the rules of the game in advance and not apply them retroactively through ‘personal and retroactive judicial legislation’. Set clear rules and enforce them on everyone.

Best regards,, The Couch Guard

Retroactive judicial legislation is exactly the difference between judicial activism in the style of Shamgar, the late, and judicial activism in the style of Barak. Shamgar tried to set clear rules that would allow everyone to understand in advance what is permitted and what is prohibited.

In contrast, Barak, in the ’rule of thumb’ His even destroyed the clarity of signed contracts, allowing the court to interpret them retroactively according to considerations of reasonableness and purpose, until a situation was created where even the lawyer who drafted the contract could not know its legal meaning.

תיקון replied 5 years ago

Paragraph 4, line 1
… A blanket rule for disqualification due to…

הפוסק האחרון replied 5 years ago

The whole matter of the cases and the lawsuits is designed to ensure that the director acts according to the instructions of the manufacturer and the shareholder.
And he does so and follows the instructions meticulously.

מתנחל. אבל ישר. replied 5 years ago

Emmanuel, the gatekeeper of the.. ? etc.
Dohema says in the Psalms, "You saw a thief and you excused yourself with him, and with adulterers you partook."
There is the Hebrew version. And there is the Yiddish version. In Yiddish, "You saw a thief. And you excused yourself with him." Every thief has an excuse for why he steals. It is just an excuse, it is not the reason. The reason he decided to be a thief.
All the excuses that were listed [beyond inaccuracies, outright lies, and especially fantasy conspiracies and nonsense, and the implication that if I am not honest, the whole world is probably like that, and at least from its foundation and the beginning of its creation] contain the well-known excuse of the thief. It was and remains an embarrassing excuse. The honest know that they are honest. And they flee from the opposite like fire. He who does not flee and does not recognize crookedness has decided in his soul to connect with a lie. He devoted himself to this. Of course, this is not relevant to the right or the left. No one who does not evacuate Khan al-Ahmar [despite the High Court ruling] is not dealing with Gaza, and the one who voted in favor of disengagement and negotiated a withdrawal from the Golan Heights will be considered right-wing.. and not his opponents.

In the fourth day of Nissan 2017,

As I have shown, it is not possible in a democratic regime to demand that considerations of voter sympathy not be a central consideration in the decision-making system. It is clear that the legislators of the “Israel Today Law” wanted to give the left-wing media a monopoly and therefore wanted to ban the free “Israel Today”, just as it is clear that the opponents of the law wanted to preserve the existence of the newspaper that supports the right.

But the law was drafted in a “categorical” manner and banned any newspaper that is distributed for free, without distinction as to whether its policy is right-wing or left-wing. By virtue of the same law, the publication of a free left-wing newspaper was also prohibited, and the publication of a daily sold for money was permitted, even if it was right-wing. Therefore, it can be said that even if the real reason is self-interested, the justification given for the law is reasonable and the law is “equal for all.”

Another example is the legalization of cannabis. Both Netanyahu, the “corrupt one,” and Saar, the “righteous one,” pledged, contrary to their original opinion, to support this legalization in exchange for political support from legalization supporters: Netanyahu to get Feiglin to withdraw from the race, and Saar to get the support of “Green Leaf.”

The political interest is transparent, and yet no one would think of accusing politicians of ’breach of trust’, since explanations are given for the proposed law that have a certain plausibility, such as the argument that it is better for cannabis marketing to be done openly and in a supervised manner rather than secretly by criminal organizations. I personally think that allowing cannabis will lead to a high risk that teenagers will fail at the drug and become addicted to it and become addicted to it, but it is difficult in a democratic regime to prevent a decision based on another explanation, as long as the things are justified by reasonable arguments and create a ‘categorical order’ that is equal for everyone.

Handing over the determination to public representatives, who depend on ’sympathetic coverage’ of their voters, there is a risk of decisions arising from interests rather than pure objective considerations, but this is the price of a democratic regime, and as long as there are mechanisms that oversee reasonable reasoning and equality of law for all - we can live with this as long as we have not found a more successful method of government.

Best regards, The Couch Guard

אהוד replied 5 years ago

Yael Shalom,

To the best of my memory, Mikhi once wrote here that he does not understand at all why people like politicians, outstanding athletes, etc. should be admired and appreciated.

Among other things, he wrote there:

“The Indians who scream about Bibi the Emperor probably came to this following a thorough study of the trends of the Jewish people in light of Kantian epistemology and Buber's philosophy.”

Also, he makes a distinction between people who received “gifts” (like athletes, models, etc.), and people who came to this through hard work, for example: an intellectual, moral, or spiritual level.

So as a relatively smart person*, Mikhi would probably think it is legitimate to *appreciate* smart people.

But as usual, both in the case of Bibi and in the case of athletes, Miki presents them in a crooked and unserious way, one that will make him seem like he is right. Miki of course also presents the majority of the people as puppets who worship Bibi just because he is a politician.

I personally have great respect for Bibi also for being a talented politician.
But also for many other things - a great statesman, an officer in the Sayeret Matchal who risked his life more than once (and was even injured) for the people of Israel). A man who has the mental strength to make decisions about difficult closures, and to stand firm in front of the people. To pick up the red phone in the middle of the night and authorize an attack on Syria. To manage a country that has so many extremes in it, etc. etc. etc. I think the overwhelming majority of the people appreciate/admire Bibi because of these things, and not because of what Miki is trying to sell in his columns.

As mentioned, he will only present, of course, “Bibi the politician” or “Kobe the basketball player”.
With Bibi, I have already said what he will and will not present. And Kobe Bryant, he will probably belittle. Of course, he will not bother, for example, to look at Wikipedia and read about all the charitable institutions that Kobe founded, and how involved he was in philanthropy, etc.

*Miki is relatively smart. But it is important to note that this is not Einstein, Turing, Newton, or anything close. I do not remember reading, for example, about “Abraham's constant” or “Miki's law” etc. I have not heard of any patents he invented. And I do not think that the scientific articles he was a co-author of changed anything in the world. . .

From a man who has devoted his life to studies and intellectualism, one could expect more (did you enjoy reading this, Miki?).

**I suggest you read the writings of Dr. Miki Avraham in depth. Among other things, he writes there, following the (problematic) behavior of some of the Haredi public during the Corona period, that he *understands* why pogroms were carried out against the Jews of Eastern Europe in the 19th century.

So what do you say, Yael, do you think Miki is the person to ask these questions to?

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