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Prayer for the miracle

שו”תCategory: Meta HalachaPrayer for the miracle
asked 6 months ago

peace respect Rabbi, Regarding The Mishnah In the tractate Greetings(The screamer former) that there is no pray That name Will intervene In nature that this Prayer By a miracle, perhaps Allow interpret that there is no Asking you God Almighty intervene In nature When I knowing For sure that the result his already was In nature(such as woman pregnant month Friday already The sex of Born Defined even that there is no See but only Know which is Defined), but Yes, it is allowed. pray That name Will intervene on thing that the result his more not was In nature but will happen in the future present The physical circumstances Sustainability Now And here permitted ask From God Almighty Let him intervene. and not Considered Prayer Lance, And even The judges not Divide by this , so this is a necessary division given the new knowledge we have from science at this time .
In conclusion: forbidden pray That name Old you Nature instead of that we are Know already The result occurred but if we notKnow that the result occurred In nature permitted me pray To name Let him intervene. In nature Vishnu you The result in the future.


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מיכי Staff answered 6 months ago
There is no logic to this. One could equally suggest that we pray for events that begin with the letters A-H.

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מנש replied 6 months ago

If the rabbi can explain why this doesn't make sense, it fits nicely with the Mishnah, as long as the examples the Mishnah used show that it depends on the person's knowledge of whether the thing has already been done and proof that the Gemara assumed that before 40 days the person does not know that nature has already done its thing and it is permissible to pray, then we can conclude that as long as I do not clearly know that nature has already done its thing, it is permissible to pray that Hashem will change the circumstances and change the outcome.

I may be talking nonsense but it is Torah and I need to study and if I am going to study then from the best

מנשה replied 6 months ago

In case I didn't phrase the previous question correctly

The Mishnah says that one does not pray for something that has already happened and gave an example of a woman who was pregnant for over 40 days (Gemara), after all, they did not clearly see that the sex of the child was already determined, but rather it depended on their knowledge! Why can't we conclude from this that as long as I don't know that the outcome has already been determined in nature, I can pray for it?

מיכי Staff replied 6 months ago

What's new? So today, when you know that everything is fixed, you can't pray for anything. That's what I wrote.

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