Rabbi Melamed

Now I saw that it was back:
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If Rabbi Matanya had shown a difference in my understanding between then and now, I would have thought of discussing his words. But I simply don't.
If Rabbi Melamed wrote 15 years ago about the reform A. and today B. that is a difference [then we need to discuss whether it is a difference at all or whether reality has changed, or if he once wrote about the youth movements A. and today B. as above] but he shows no difference…
Tells us that he founded a separate youth movement in Bnei Akiva, and when he wasn't satisfied, he founded Ariel, [and even R”L served as secretary] and therefore in Rabbi Matanya's opinion he must have his head against the wall on every issue and every matter. And he must not be undergoing sweeping changes..
It seems to me that Rabbi Matanya's words fail to prove what he decided about Rabbi Melamed…

On the 26th of Av, 1950, when there was an intention to open a branch of the HUC in Jerusalem with a Reform synagogue, Chief Rabbis Rabbi Herzog and Rabbi Nissim expressed strong opposition, writing, among other things, that the Reform contributed to assimilation and integration in the Diaspora (For Generations and Generations, 2: On an Upright Stand, pp. 33-63)

Today, their actions are more serious. Many of their leaders recognize mixed marriages, and are willing to accept them with their children into their communities, and some of their rabbis even conduct mixed marriage ceremonies. The day will not be far off when mixed marriages will be held even in the Western Wall area that was given to them and the children of the gentiles will be raised to Torah. So will Rabbi Melamed donate a Torah scroll for this? 🙂

I do tend to partially agree with his opinion, not to increase demonstrations against them, because the very act of responding to their provocations gives them media exposure and serves their goals. We just need to act as quietly as possible so that the provocative prayers of the ‘Women of the Wall’ will also be transferred from the women’s aid to the mixed plaza, and without ‘Zomi’ their presence there will tend to be zero.

With greetings, Yaron Fish”Ordner

Regarding the Southern Wall – there was a difference in approach between Rabbi Nissim and Rabbi Unterman. Rabbi Nissim fought to have the Southern Wall dedicated to a prayer site as well, and therefore demanded that archaeological excavations there be limited. His colleague, the Rabbi Unterman, was content with consecrating the Western Wall as a place of prayer.

The difference in approaches between Rabbi Nissim and Rabbi Unterman is evident from the difference in the letters of the two rabbis to the Minister of Religious Affairs demanding that archaeological excavations not be conducted at the Western Wall before planning for the site is carried out, at which time the Chief Rabbinate will consider whether to approve these excavations (For Generation and Generation, 2: In an Upright Position, pp. 49-50).

However, Rabbi Nissim states (in a letter he submitted to the Ministerial Committee on Holy Places): ”The silent Wall is holy, just as the Western Wall is holy, and it too should serve as a place of prayer. If over the generations our enemies have prevented access to it and reduced the area where Jews could pray – we must not follow their path, and the time has come to redeem this Wall from the disgrace of neglect and filth, from its obscurity and isolation’ (Ibid., p. 2)

With regards, Yaffo

There are two types of Reformers who are not so distinguished between them:

In principle, there is no difference between Reform and secular except that the Reformer is also infantile (and perhaps even accidentally desecrates sacred objects (Torah scrolls). Although according to them, this is not desecration and it should be discussed whether desecration is not God's will, but desecration). Rabbi Melamed met with the leader of a Reform community in France to discuss together how to protect and save Jewish lives. This is no different from cooperation with the secularists here in Israel. There are Reformers of this type in America as well. These were the Reformers from the previous century who prevented assimilation among Reform Jews.

Indeed, there are Reforms in America who hate Israel and fight Jewish nationalism (which Rabbi Kook said is a holy thing and whoever works on its behalf, even if he is secular, is actually doing a spiritual act (even if he is unaware of it). Like Herzl) and who encourage assimilation and do not believe in the people of Israel. It is indeed forbidden to meet with them, but they are no different from all the progressive Jews of all kinds who do not believe in the people of Israel and fight against the Jewish nation and especially against the State of Israel. I do not know who those who pray in the Western Wall plaza, but it is likely that Rabbi Melamed found out that these are Reforms of the first type.

Reforms of the first type do not believe in the Torah from heaven and in this they are no different from ordinary secularists. They have no religion because they do not believe that God commanded something and therefore the allegations against them for forgery are baseless because there is simply nothing to forge. They deal with culture (which is of course stupid) but from their point of view, Orthodoxy is also culture. They are simply stupid people and that is it. The fact that their prayer ritual is forbidden according to Halacha is a true but empty statement. The kosher of the Reformers (non-progressives) is the same kosher as that of the secular non-progressives in the land - they are captive babies and the war against them is ridiculous (just as ridiculous as they are). It simply stems from Haredi righteousness and not from a true Torah and spiritual halachic perspective. From such a segment of the war over the originality of a brand (this is the claim of counterfeiting). But the originality of a brand is a matter of culture and not of truth. There is really no one who thinks that the Reformers are the same as the Orthodox. The Orthodox believe that their commandments are from God. In this sense, Christians and Muslims also believe. But the Reformers do not believe in any commandments. From their perspective, this is culture (except for prayer, which is something valuable because there is a God, but they are not obligated to it), so the claim of counterfeiting does not belong here. And anyone who does think they are similar is very stupid, which is a bigger problem. The progressive Reformers are indeed ostensibly also captive babies, but because they withdraw from the Jewish people and fight for their nationalism, it is necessary to discuss whether they are considered converts (and there is a similar discussion about the progressive secular left in Israel). The main sin of a convert (for the entire Torah) is probably that he withdrew from the Jewish people (by not keeping all the commandments, as the Rambam says).