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Regarding morality that is “inherent in man”

שו”תCategory: moralRegarding morality that is “inherent in man”
asked 11 months ago

The rabbi mentioned several times that there is morality that is innate in us and that we do not learn morality from the Torah at all. In other words, there is a pretty clear separation.
In the Rabbi’s opinion, is the morality that is prevalent today in the rational world (such as the prohibition against stealing and murder) proof that this is truly innate? I think it is very likely that it is a matter of education. Like there are cannibal tribes. Or that when a child hits, we warn him and scold him for it. I think these are a priori beliefs on this subject, but maybe I am wrong.


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מיכי Staff answered 11 months ago
There are many discussions on the site about the relativism of morality, whether it is education, whether it is ingrained in us (which for me is like education) or whether it is a choice. In my opinion, it is a choice. Of course, the understanding of what is moral is both ingrained in us and observed with the “eyes of reason.” But the decision to act accordingly is ours.

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אסף replied 11 months ago

I looked at the questions on the site but did not find a clear conclusion. In the end, I am trying to ask whether it is possible, or perhaps even probable, that we do not hit the morals that God intended, at least in certain parts. As stated, in your opinion there is a clear separation between morality and religious commandments (therefore there are conflicts that need to be resolved). But since our way of knowing what morality God intended is simply a direct result of education and independent research as we grow older, then we have no way to really know if we were right in everything, since morality cannot be learned from the Torah, so where can we learn it? "The eyes of reason" seems to me to be a very subjective term. You accept belief in tradition and religious commandments from considerations of reasonableness in the end (it is unlikely that a tradition with such a broad front was invented by man, etc.), whereas morality cannot be accepted from considerations of reasonableness.

מיכי Staff replied 11 months ago

It is always possible that we are wrong. So what? And is it impossible to make a mistake in Halacha? Is there a realm in the universe where we do not use our intellect and therefore can make a mistake? What does all of this have to do with my theses?

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