Surrogacy
After last week’s extreme rant, I found two articles over the weekend that provide data and are therefore worth considering.
I would love to hear what you think.
Hello S.
I know the allegations and I do not accept them.
The committee’s main reasoning was to reduce the number of surrogates as much as possible for fear of exploitation. I have no problem in principle with this consideration (although I’m not sure it’s correct, as I noted in the post. They have the right to earn a living as they see fit). But I do have a problem with its application to men. I see no difference between a woman who can’t get pregnant and two gay men who can’t show. They also can’t have a child with a woman because then there are parents who aren’t in a couple’s cell, so the naivety that distinguishes between the cases sounds to me like a cover for discrimination.
I assume that the committee itself also understood that a comparison between the populations was not possible due to political constraints, and under this assumption they decided on the lesser evil: not allowing men to do surrogacy. But the bottom line is that it is discriminatory and unfair.
By the way, the data that surrogates are usually of low educational and socioeconomic status is, of course, nonsense. I could have told you that in advance. Someone who has no means of livelihood needs surrogacy. What did you do now that you prevented her from doing so? You left her without a means of livelihood instead of allowing her to make a living as she sees fit. This is paternalism, which as usual harms those it is meant to care for.
By the way, a minority opinion proposal was made in the Mor Yosef Committee itself (including Steinberg and Halperin, the two Dosis) to allow everyone voluntary surrogacy. This would reduce the number of surrogates, prevent exploitation, and maintain equality. The proposal was rejected, and it is not clear to me why. Although you would not allow a livelihood there either for those who want it, but in any case, this is a consideration that does not interest the committee or the public.
A few questions:
1. “Someone who has no income needs surrogacy. What did you do now that you prevented her from doing so? You left her without an income instead of allowing her to earn a living as she sees fit. This is paternalism that usually harms those he comes to care for.”
Are you in favor of allowing people to earn a living as every citizen understands, from selling a kidney?
2. “They also can't have a child with a woman because then there are parents who are not in a couple”
Do you recommend approving surrogacy only for gay men who live in a relationship?
3.” A proposal was made in the Mor Yosef Committee itself by the minority opinion (including Steinberg and Halperin, the two Dosis) to allow everyone voluntary surrogacy. This would reduce the number of surrogates, prevent exploitation, and maintain equality. The proposal was rejected and I don't know why”
Bottom line, are you in favor of surrogacy for everyone, but only on a voluntary basis? (Contradicts what is said in the quote in section 1)
1. Absolutely. With supervision and regulation, of course, there will be no poilshtiks. This is freedom of occupation. A person is allowed to engage in an occupation that endangers him for a living as long as he takes the risks into account and makes a reasonable decision.
2. Not necessarily. But I don't have a clear position on this matter. If it is allowed for a single woman, then yes.
Do you recommend approving surrogacy only for gays who live in a relationship?
3. I myself commented on this ”contradiction”. What I argued is that if freedom is no longer allowed and surrogacy is wanted to be reduced, it should be done in an equal manner, and voluntariness seems to me to be a good way to achieve this. Personally, I think it should be allowed under regulation to the extent they see fit.
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