The destruction of the Temple
I heard an argument that the reason for gratuitous hatred for the destruction of the Jewish state is strange.
And even more strangely, we have only been in exile for 70 years for serious offenses, and on this issue we have been in exile for hundreds of years.
What do you think about that?
And is it possible that we discovered it because of something more fundamental, such as a change in halakha to Pharisaic halakha?
Anything is possible. The metaphysical speculations about God’s reasons have no value. I don’t think anyone, including the sages, can know anything about that. I assume that this type of reasoning is simply used to promote ideas that seem important to them (not to hate without reason, etc.). The same goes for the speculation of exile because of Pharisaic law.
In general, there is an assumption here that the exile was brought about by God. I am not sure about this. At least in the second book, after he has already stopped being involved here in prophecy and miracles, it is doubtful to what extent he is involved in the exile. Perhaps the Romans brought about the exile and not God, and then the question is basically moot.
See here: https://mikyab.net/%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%AA/%D7%9E%D7%94-%D7%96%D7%94-%D7%94%D7%A2%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%99%D7%9F-%D7%A9%D7%9C-%D7%A2%D7%96%D7%91-%D7%93-%D7%90%D7%AA-%D7%94%D7%90%D7%A8%D7%A5/
I don't understand. Do you assume that God stopped watching over us individually since the days of the Second Temple?
I find it difficult to accept this claim for the following reasons:
A. According to you, prayer has no meaning (both for private and national requests)
B. Only for things I recently learned about in my high school history class, there is no explanation other than God's intervention in the world, such as the Holocaust and the establishment of the State of Israel.
Good day.
These things have been discussed ad nauseam here on the site.
And being an adult in history has nothing to do with this. Both the Holocaust and the establishment of the state can be natural events. On the contrary, the claim that God caused the Holocaust has some complex issues.
C. The case of my constitution certainly proves the providence at the national level in accordance with our actions as a nation.
If I bother to write, I expect you to also read what I wrote.
These are events that can certainly happen naturally, but those who read about them see a deliberate hand.
The murder of millions in an orderly and ingenious method.
The gathering of refugees from all over the world and the building of a modern Western state from scratch in a few years, while waging a series of wars with the entire environment and with extremely meager means.
I simply didn't see that you answered the link about the issue of prayer and the chapter on the constitutions (for example, the Holocaust and the establishment of the state)
These are at most events with a low probability. But a low probability does not prove that they are the work of God. Throughout history, events with a low probability may also occur randomly.
I answered the parashat in my laws (there is a difference between the Torah period and our time). I did not answer the prayer because the matter has already been discussed here to the point of exhaustion.
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