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They already ate it in the days of Hezekiah.

שו”תCategory: Meta HalachaThey already ate it in the days of Hezekiah.
asked 4 years ago

And if the Lord your God enlarges your border and you add three more cities to you in addition to these three.
Maimonides teaches that there will be redemption.
Let not the Torah speak its words in vain…
I studied instead in the parasha of Rabbi Prof. Elitzur Shlita in his travels and discussed whether only 6 of the Torah readings in Joshua and Chronicles 51 of the Babylonian and Jerusalemite and the Ramban] or all 48 of them [the conclusion of the Babylonian and Rambam] ultimately brings out that the Hasmoneans expanded and absorbed [temporarily?] Kiryat Yearim and Gamla, and perhaps another place.
Thus, all of Maimonides’s arguments fall flat…


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מיכי Staff answered 4 years ago
Indeed. He writes explicitly that there has never been such a thing. So what is the question? If Elitzur is right, then Maimonides was wrong. But even if he was wrong, one of many pieces of evidence (in his opinion) has been dropped here, and not “the whole basis.” Not to mention that Maimonides’ assumption is very dubious (what about a rebellious son and a remote city? They never were and never will be.)

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In a more relaxed view, Elitzur does not contradict Maimonides.
Maimonides spoke of some utopian reality that appears in the verse, “And if your God expands your border.” Meaning, we have finished conquering what we are obligated to conquer, and we are expanding into new territories, then there is a law of 3 new cities of refuge.
But Elitzur describes an almost opposite reality, a period of the Hasmonean kingdom that manages to return a few more regions [and not all of them] that were in our hands in the past and that fell from under our hands. And now there is a question, where is the regional city of refuge? So they establish an alternative city of refuge beyond what is specified in the Torah, and this is either because the original area of the Torah’s city of refuge has not yet been conquered or it is not possible to invest in settling it, so they establish something alternative.
But not from a situation of extreme expansion and distant and new territories, which is what the Torah is talking about. Which requires the consecration of 3 cities on top of the existing ones and you will have 3 cities on top of these 3. With Herod, it is not 3 cities on top of [in addition to] these 3, but rather 3 [maybe only 2?] instead of the original 3 because they are not under their control or destroyed. And there is no extreme expansion of power here beyond the limits of the command to conquer.

Although the Rabbi is still puzzled by what hatred and you will have 3 cities from a rejected city and a rebellious son who is needed and receives a reward, this is a legitimate possibility…

הפוסק האחרון replied 4 years ago

A rejected city and a rebellious son, like many other commandments (jubilee, shemitah, interest, eye for eye) are not kept.
Therefore, the people of Israel are punished.
“Require and receive punishment”

On Shabbat night, I went to the house of Rabbi HaGal Nebenzel and asked him what was asked here, and he replied:
A. Herod was not authorized to add cities of refuge, so that it has no meaning[?]
Perhaps the Sanhedrin agreed with him on adding a city of refuge? [And in any case, it is within the authority and is valid] Answer: No.
B. Regarding the city of refuge and the rejected city, there is an opinion among the Sages that it is necessary and receives a reward, so that if God expands your border and you add 3 more cities to these 3, then you will

Perhaps the reason for this is that it depends on the situation if it develops [by choice?] so that you add it to it is a promise that it will be good and successful in the future, and a commandment on how to act then.
Good week, Your Honor.

ואלה שמות... replied 4 years ago

Sorry for the strange name on the errand I did on Saturday.
The herring from Saturday just came to mind...
And in general, the fish was at its peak during the 9 days.

ואלה שמות... replied 4 years ago

Oh of course…
Herring and gefilte in mutual respect…

גלילי שוטה replied 4 years ago

What about the carrot?
Every detail of your smile interests us all very much.

פיש מפי איש replied 4 years ago

Galili.
There was a carrot but it was worthless in 200 piles of herring and gefilte…

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