What should we think when the world of Torah we relied on collapses?

Why is there a chasm between the teachings taught in the yeshiva and decisions made by that community that are not at all compatible with their method of learning?

In every field, there is a difference between theoretical specialization and practical work. The rabbinical leadership of the Haredi community is not involved in what is happening in the world and in non-Torah thinking in various fields, and yet they are unjustly attributed with powers that are supposed to cover up for this.

Moshe,
I'm not at all sure about Rabbi Kanievsky's disconnect. How do you know what he's involved in and what he's not?

They once said this to Rabbi Kanievsky himself, look how he responded:

https://youtu.be/bem8USSurLI

How can a person testify that he is informed? If he reads the news and chats with others, he can feel whether he knows as well as they do. But someone whose access is filtered (and perhaps guided) is not clear to me how he is supposed to know that he is not informed? Only if there are serious holes in the plot can he suspect that the story presented to him is incomplete.

This reminds me of a delusional message I saw on the Otzar Hochma forum by someone who claims to be a judge in a court of law for money matters and writes in this language: “If both parties are ready for Torah law, then the court judges – and if one of them discovers it, by ”God”. This is an unusually detached statement (because if he did not recognize the deception, then he does not know that he did not recognize it) and I was amazed to read it from a judge.

Here https://forum.otzar.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=9787&hilit=%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%99&start=40#p96843

In the quote, a key word was omitted (“rebellion”), and I am copying it again, the public will be afraid and amazed:

If both parties are ready for Torah law, then the court judges - and if one of them rebels, we discover this, B ”H.

Shai, I must comment to you that your defense of those so-called “Godwilli of the Dover” says to my teacher, are you, as a person of understanding, unable to discern the sociopathy and sociopathy that grips them, to the point that they are willing to risk the lives of their believers?
With much love, Benjamin, commenting to the entire world, Benjamin

Benjamin,
Because those generational scoundrels are very intelligent people and I don't think they are as detached as they are portrayed to be. A few weeks ago, one of the patients at the place where I work went to Rabbi Kanievsky to exorcise a possession that was taking hold of him (a psychotic attack). Rabbi Kanievsky told him to ask the psychiatrist for a specific drug in a certain dosage to improve his condition. I don't think he is that detached.

Benjamin, you are completely exaggerating. Beyond that, they are not endangering the lives of their followers, but the public at large. That is all I argued in the last column.

Shai,
The image you are fighting against is that Rabbi Kanievsky is a delusional mystic. I have also heard statements from him that show otherwise (although there are also counterexamples). But the claim that he is disconnected from the world is weaker. He simply lacks relevant knowledge and familiarity with different forms of thinking. That is certainly true.

Rabbi Michi, especially the “general public” !!!
It's a shame that ”Gadoil HaDair” didn't learn Greek wisdom, from which he would have learned the famous rule of one of the ”Gadoil HaDair” – ” I know that I don't know” – and thus he wouldn't have come to such a terrible mistake (among other mistakes)

A. It seems to me that even a person with above-average talent and a lot of work does not achieve results like those of Rabbi Kanievsky - the author of The Way of Faith, which is a truly amazing book, breathtaking and important in its contribution!
Besides the fact that he knows a few more things in the Torah.
And yet it seems to me that we can give him some credit for understanding what is happening! And analyzing things with the intelligence quotient, the seriousness and perseverance that led to these results
B. What is so complicated? Let's say they told him: There is a virus that causes serious illness, especially in older people. The number of confirmed infections is so-and-so. The Ministry of Health has ordered the closure of educational institutions (medical opinion so far).
It seems to me that any person with an average IQ or higher can think a few steps ahead.
How many people might get infected, based on a rough hypothesis (a number that goes up in an engineering column).
How many people might die.
And make a value judgment that is highly reliable (Michi once claimed that rabbis can decide whether to go to war when they have received professional information). Studying Torah in yeshivahs while observing the rule of small groups or sending everyone home.
And the rabbi, due to his low IQ, decided...
C. To claim that his grandchildren are misleading him, then there is no end to it. He decides to trust them and apparently he knows them a little...
You could also say that the doctors at the Ministry of Health recommend to the political echelon so that when an investigation committee opens, they will not be caught negligent - and the economy May it collapse!

All of the following is not directed at a specific rabbi, God forbid, but at the principle. The examples of Rabbi Schach and Solovetsik are also only based on what is known from rumors, I have no information on the subject:

I have a feeling that many among the Haredi public understand that there is sometimes a problem with the leadership of a certain rabbi and yet the public finds itself forced to continue to obey his orders because there is no alternative. Just like the Likudniks who sense the problems with Bibi but continue to choose him because in their opinion there is no alternative. Here too: The difficult decision to declare a rabbi we trusted to be already senile or to reveal that he never had an opinion is a decision of faith that there is really no way to deal with – and simply wait quietly until the leadership changes

And in general, it should be noted that there is no halakhic mechanism – that I know of – To replace a Torah leader when he grows old or "forgets his Talmud". Then he is usually isolated from the public, as they did to Rabbi Shach and Rabbi Dov Soloveitchik. The reason is that exposing their senility - if the rumors are true - would greatly damage the public's trust that the Torah is a source of pain and that "the old scholars of Torah are obsessed with them". Sometimes when it is impossible to isolate the leader because he is not that senile, but is in a borderline state that is not visible to the naked eye - then he is surrounded by his supporters and other defenses, and he continues to be active through their mediation. In short: there is a certain problem here, and it is possible that the decision is to lose a few years of your sound advice, as long as you keep your faith in the power of the Torah intact. This is similar to the Maimonides' view that the Torah will not change and sacrifices will always be, because if they were to make changes, however justified, the people's trust in the Torah would be damaged (as I believe is also the logic in explaining the teaching of the commandment not to deviate). There is a long article on this opinion of Maimonides, the name of which I now cannot remember, nor the name of its author.