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Did the Desert Generation put on tefillin?

ResponseCategory: FaithDid the Desert Generation put on tefillin?
Another street asked 3 years ago

If so, how many parsiyat were there in tefillin? The commandment to put on tefillin is first mentioned in Exodus 13:9, but the parsiyats "Shema Yisrael" and "Hayah Im Shemu'" were only written in the Book of Deuteronomy, so if they were worn, the tefillin of the desert generation would have been different from those worn today. 
Also, how were they made? Even today, with all the knowledge we have, making tefillin is not a simple and long craft. According to the findings, the first leavened parchments (as discovered from the Babylonian and Assyrian periods) were very thick and therefore could not have been placed in tefillin houses. It was only in the Hellenistic period that the methods were perfected that made the preparation of parchment cheaper and more accessible, and the parchment thinner and more flexible. 

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Michi Staff answered 3 years ago

I am not knowledgeable in history and archaeology, so I cannot comment on the facts. But even assuming they are true, I have no idea, but I don't understand why it matters. Maybe they put on different tefillin or didn't put on at all. 

Another street replied 3 years ago

This is important, because otherwise what did God find in requiring us to fulfill a mitzvah that we do not have the knowledge/tools to fulfill (and in fact it is likely that it developed hundreds of years later)? The laws of tefillin as we know them today are the Torah of Moses from Sinai for everyone to know. For example, in the Gemara it is written: "And Rav Hananel said, Rav said: The law of tefillin is a law to Moses from Sinai." Abaye said:
The passage from Tefillin, the journey to Moses from Sinai. And Abaye said: The passage from Tefillin, the journey to Moses from Sinai… Rabbi said
Yitzhak: Black strips, Halacha to Moses from Sinai… Tanna: Square tefillin, Halacha to Moses from Sinai, etc.

Also how can one talk about tradition and claim (not you, but I believe almost every other rabbi) that the tefillin we wear today are the same as those Moses wore. Tefillin are one of the common examples/"proofs" that the Oral Torah is the law that came to Moses from Sinai.

mikyab Staff replied 3 years ago

If you mean to ask me what someone else thinks, you've come to the wrong place. I'm not in the business of defending the positions of others.

Another street replied 3 years ago

Okay, I won't ask you to defend others, but what about the first part of my question. What did God find in requiring one to fulfill a mitzvah that one does not have the knowledge/tools to fulfill? Of course, you can disagree with the assumption that the generation in the wilderness did not have the knowledge to make tefillin.

mikyab Staff replied 3 years ago

As I wrote, I am not sure of the facts you mentioned. I have quite limited confidence in the scientific fields of repentance. But as I wrote, I have no problem even if the tefillin were made differently in their time, and therefore I do not see the importance of clarifying the facts.

On the 28th of Kislev, 5883

According to Wikipedia, the 'parchment' entry - the technique of processing leather for writing was known in ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia. According to Herodotus, the Ionians used leather for writing. And they operated according to the 'Ionian' entry as early as the second millennium BC.

There was no widespread use of leather for writing. Both due to the lack of need for writing at all, who among the "common people" could read and write? And due to the proliferation of cheaper and simpler materials, such as clay tablets in Mesopotamia and papyrus in Egypt. It was only inspired by Hellenistic culture that enlightenment and, as a result, reading and writing became widespread and popular, and with the imposition of the Egyptian embargo on the export of papyrus, it was necessary to find a substitute and switch to mass production of parchment.

Before that, the situation in the world was the same as it is today. Almost no one uses parchment for writing, except for the Jews who do so for religious reasons.

Best regards, Cleopatronius Pergamonsky

Another street replied 3 years ago

Let's skip the science of repentance as you call it. What about common sense? As we know, "And the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, six hundred thousand men, with only a firebrand." Where did they find ordinary scribes, tanners, etc. to make tefillin for 600K people? With all the knowledge we have today, it takes about a year to make tefillin.

Petora Hadata replied 3 years ago

Each one laid down for twenty seconds. This way, 2,000 people could gather in each tefillin a day and only 300 pairs were needed, or each one laid down once a month.

Petora Hadata replied 3 years ago

If they could, they did, and if they couldn't, then they were forced and exempt.
And perhaps the Sages demanded and renewed it later (the entire mitzvah or parts and details)
Or tefillin that were prepared before the giving of the Torah did not need to be processed for its own sake, and therefore could have used the totfot of tefillin houses that were in Egypt.
Or they received at that time a temporary instruction from the Prophet Moses that specifically commanded them not to wear tefillin.
Or did tefillin fall from heaven like manna for them, and it was not written for generations that there is no need?

Another street replied 3 years ago

Imagine the children of Israel standing in line to put on tefillin… Blessed is the believer. No one in this country has the patience to stand.

There was no shortage of animals. replied 3 years ago

On the 4th of Tevet, the 3rd of the month.

Why did they have to stand in line? After all, dozens of pairs of tefillin can be made from the skin of one animal, and why did they lack animals?

Best regards, Ya'far

Another street replied 3 years ago

Apparently they also lacked livestock at some point (otherwise they wouldn't have the words "Who would have given us over to die by the hand of the Lord in the land of Egypt, when we sat on the fleshpots, when we ate bread to the full, for you have brought us out into this wilderness to kill this entire assembly with hunger"), but that's not the point. Where did the knowledge and professionals come from to create tefillin for 600K people? Hint: It's unlikely that they had any, and therefore it's also unlikely that they wore tefillin. If you think about it, there is not a single place in the entire Bible where tefillin are even mentioned in any way. The name "tefillin" is first documented during the Mishnah period, and its origin and meaning are not clear. It is generally accepted that the word tefillin is the plural form of the word tefillah. However, in an Aramaic text from the Jewish colony that existed in Bib in Egypt, the phrase "tefillah zi kesef" already appears, and it seems that the reference is to an amulet, and even in Ugarit there is a text dating back to the 14th century BCE at the latest, where it says "Rasha tefillah Teli ben Anah," which is interpreted as: (on) his head, tefillin hanging between his eyes. Therefore, scholars speculate that the word tefillin was originally used as a name for an amulet.

In the 5th of Tevet, 3rd of July

In order to prepare the Mishkan, the Israelites had to do delicate and skilled crafts that required much more than leatherworking. Anyone who served as a slave in the home or workshop of an Egyptian craftsman saw his masters at work and, if he was quick to grasp it, he understood. So what is the problem with the knowledge of leatherworking and writing on them in calligraphic writing?

The technical knowledge that existed in making amulets (like the Ugaritic 'tefal') existed from ancient times also in Egypt, the land of magic, and the same technique that was applied for the purposes of idolatry and witchcraft – was harnessed by the Torah for the noble purposes of strengthening faith by bearing the name of God. Egyptian royalty wore a ddft in the form of a snake between their eyes, and the Torah commanded the Children of Israel to wear between their eyes the form of a house within which resides their belief in uniqueness, which is their adornment and pride. And in the language of the sages, the word 'totfat' was borrowed for a women's piece of jewelry that hangs between the eyes.

And so in the Tabernacle – the Torah harnessed the splendor and splendor of royal palaces and pagan temples – for the lofty purpose of sanctifying the true God. And so the blue that kings and nobles wore – the Torah commanded every Jew to wear on their clothing so that he would always remember that he was the son of a king, which his nobility required.

Best regards, Ya'far

Those complaining about the "great famine" lost their livestock in Egypt, and the Israelites who followed them also feared that if they slaughtered their livestock too often for the sake of eating meat of desire, the animals would die in a short time. One-time slaughter for the purpose of preparing tefillin is not the same as daily slaughter for the purpose of eating.

Another street replied 3 years ago

She is the one who gives, about the preparation of the tabernacle it is said, "And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 'See, I have called by name, Zeloel the son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah. And I have filled him with the Spirit of God, in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship, to devise curious works, to work in gold, and in silver, and in brass, and in cutting of stone for setting, and in carving of wood, to work in all manner of workmanship.'" That is, the construction of the Tabernacle was miraculous and Jehovah filled his architect with “the Spirit of God, in wisdom, in understanding, in knowledge, and in all craftsmanship.” Otherwise, he could not have built the Tabernacle. On the other hand, there is no mention of any miracle or divine spirit that ministered to such and such creators.

Regarding the technical knowledge for making amulets that may have been passed down from the Egyptians to the Israelites, this is irrelevant for several reasons. As I mentioned in my previous comments, with all the advanced knowledge and tools we have today, it takes about a year to make a pair of tefillin. Even if some knowledge was passed down, it is a matter of a few who received this knowledge and it is clear that they were not able to make tefillin for 600,000 people. Let's start with the fact that the literacy level was probably low among the Israelites who left Egypt, and in particular their literacy in Hebrew. Of those who knew how to write, how many do you think were capable of being mere scribes, which is a different level of writing? Second, if you delve a little into the processes of processing aftzim and tefillin factories, you will see that these are very specific requirements for tefillin that are unlikely to have been learned in Egypt.

Regarding the complainers, there is no biblical reference to your words. Just interpretation/legends.

Tefillin and the Tabernacle replied 3 years ago

Regarding what I mentioned, that the shape of the tefillin is like a house, within which the Torah of God resides – it is worth noting that in the Tabernacle, to the outsider, only the goatskin covering is visible, so that whoever looks at the Tabernacle from the outside – essentially sees a 'black box', and perhaps the tefillin symbolize the Tabernacle of God that resides among us.

Best regards, Gadiel Shaafsal Dolitsky the excavator

Regarding the complainers who were from the Arab Rav – the Bible explicitly states, “And the crowd that was among them lusted after them, and they returned and wept, even the children of Israel.” From this we learn that the complaints came from the Arab Rav.

Another street replied 3 years ago

Regarding the complainers, you are confused. Contrary to the verse I cited, yours is said after the manna was taken down and not before ("And now our soul is dried up, there is nothing but God our eyes have set on").

False complaints replied 3 years ago

In general, some of the complaints are false complaints that do not reflect a real shortage. They will accuse the manna, which tasted like honey, of being dry and worthless, and of being exhausted by the rotten bread. The complaint about meat is also a false complaint, from people who are used to food falling from the sky, and if so, they can demand that meat also fall to them without having to part with their belongings in order to eat. The more abundance increases, the higher the level of demands.

And Moses expresses this feeling by saying: 'Will he slaughter sheep and cattle for them if he gathers all the fish of the sea for them?' And his proposal to appoint elders. And will the elders bring them meat? Of course not. But Moses hopes that leadership that is close and acceptable to the people will bring calmness and perhaps relieve the mental stress that causes false complaints.

Best regards, Daghesh the Excavator

Life Life replied 4 hours ago

I won't say that many of the commandments seem to be the interpretation of the holy sages, but we must remember that if there are sages in any totalitarian country like Morocco, and they offer suggestions to remember the king and honor him, then if anyone disobeys them, the king himself will punish him. And if so, the entire purpose of the holy sages was to enthrone God, blessed be His name, forever, and therefore whoever does not do this will bring God into the fold... and it is not worth messing with him...

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