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asked 6 years ago

The elections are upon us. And I hear that many are very interested in knowing the Rabbi’s opinion on what is worth and appropriate to vote for? Would he be willing to elaborate on his opinion on the matter of who the Rabbi is planning to vote for and why?
Thank you in advance on my behalf and on behalf of many.


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מיכי Staff answered 6 years ago
I don’t think I will vote, because in my opinion there is no one for whom. On security and political issues, no one is proposing anything, and in any case, it is irrelevant because there is nothing on the agenda. No one will bring peace and no one will seriously address security issues (and perhaps it is impossible). Regarding the other issues, the right is corrupt (Bibi) and racist (Ben Gvir) and advocates religious coercion and the corruption of the ultra-Orthodox (all of them), and therefore it is impossible and forbidden to give a hand to any of this gang. And it is difficult for me to vote for the left because of the problematic socio-economic policies and because they are usually brainwashed people who recite slogans and act according to them. Most of them are simply unintelligent people. Sorry for the brevity and the harshness and the generalizations. Obviously the picture is more complex and not everyone is exactly the same, but I don’t have time right now and I don’t see the importance of going into more detail. This is the gist of things as I see it.

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מיכי Staff replied 6 years ago

See also here:
https://mikyab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/%D7%94%D7%90%D7%9D-%D7%99%D7%A9-%D7%98%D7%A2%D7%9D-%D7%9C%D7%94%D7%A6%D7%91%D7%99%D7%A2-%D7%91%D7%91%D7%97%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7 %A2%D7%9C-%D7%A8%D7%A6%D7%99%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%96%D7%9D-%D7%90%D7%A0%D7%A8%D7%9B%D7% 99%D7%96%D7%9D-%D7%95%D7%94%D7%A6%D7%95-%D7%94%D7%A7%D7%98%D7%99%D7%92%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99-1.pdf

אורן replied 6 years ago

What about the lesser evil?

מיכי Staff replied 6 years ago

I tried to remember the link and now you reminded me:
https://mikyab.net/posts/60810
Here I stand by my considerations of the lesser evil.
And back to us:
First, in the current situation I don't know who the lesser evil is.
And second, the great importance that I believe is in a voter turnout as low as possible (as I explained in the above column) outweighs a slight bias one way or the other.

יעקב replied 6 years ago

I don't understand why the rabbi writes that what the Haredim receive is a "bribe"; every party has demands (Lieberman wants pensions for the elderly from Ukraine) and within the framework of the current system of government, this is how it works. The discussion could perhaps be whether what the Haredim receive is a legitimate demand or whether there is no legitimacy to the money they receive. In the end, anyone who doesn't automatically believe the media and knows some people from the Haredi public knows that they receive a little, and therefore most of those who don't work hard enough also live in poverty, but of course that's by their personal choice.
For example, I'm angry about the budgeting of sports, in my opinion, it's a waste of money and I'm not interested in it at all, and in my opinion, if a party on behalf of sports comes to budget them, it would be an election bribe, etc.

מיכי Staff replied 6 years ago

Because regular parties receive funding for needs according to their views, and the Haredim receive funding for the needs of a certain public. Beyond that, the giver usually identifies with the cause, and this is not the case for the Haredim (the coalition does not identify but pays it as a bribe). I did not mean bribery in the criminal sense of course, but rather that they will not make any problem on any issue as long as they are paid.
Those who do not work have to live in poverty. I am not impressed by this (yes, I am impressed by the dedication but not by the little they receive). Especially since their contribution to the GNP is zero and this is a problem for all of us. Instead of saving this sick society, they are strengthening it. That is what I call bribery.

משה replied 6 years ago

But there is a financing for the public good, this is the view. And this is why women work so that their husbands can sit and study.
And as mentioned in the Rambam:

“The sages and prophets did not desire the days of the Messiah, not so that they would rule over the whole world, nor so that they would descend into the land, nor so that the nations would carry them, nor so that they would eat, drink, and be merry, but so that they would be free from the Torah and its wisdom, and that they would have no one to approach or hinder, so that they would gain the life of the world to come, as we explained in the laws of repentance.”

פתק לבן replied 6 years ago

Why did you decide to abstain from voting and not cast a blank ballot?

(You once wrote that a blank ballot has more meaning than not voting, because it shows protest, as opposed to not voting, which can be interpreted as laziness or lack of care).

מיכי Staff replied 6 years ago

By law, blank ballots are not counted, probably to prevent this type of protest. The scumbags take care of themselves.

פתק לבן replied 6 years ago

I am in a Hasidic community affiliated with Torah Judaism. They sit at the polling stations, observe with lists, and transmit to the centers in real time the names of those who have not yet voted.

So I receive non-stop calls during Election Day until I vote.

For this reason, I am thinking of putting in a blank ballot (and hoping that they will not tamper with my envelope when counting the votes).

Is their behavior legal?

מיכי replied 6 years ago

I don't know if it's legal, but all parties do it.

On the 17th of Elul 9th

To the owner of the white ballot – Greetings,

A white ballot is not neutral, but strengthens the left.

Leftists like Lid and Lieberman are fighting against the Haredi, not out of a sincere desire to fix the problems of Haredi society and increase their integration into economic life, but out of an understanding that hatred of the Haredi is a recipe for gaining votes from some secularists.

Instead of encouraging the processes of going out to work, education and military service, which are progressing slowly but surely – these guys are pushing for decrees that the Haredi public (and the army) will not be able to withstand. Their profit from these decrees is not in increasing the number of Haredi who enlist, but in increasing the economic pressure on Haredi society. If it is so important to them that they go out to work – Why are they harassing Haredi colleges? And why are they making it difficult for working Haredi women to receive discounts in dormitories?

Those who are truly working, and with the utmost respect and patience, to increase the integration of Haredim into the army and working life are His Excellency Naftali Bennett, who as Minister of Economy formulated practical plans to promote Haredi employment, and His Excellency Ayelet Shaked, who prepared a reasonable outline for a conscription law that could lead to a moderate increase in the number of recruits without bringing destruction to Haredi society.

So for the sake of the changes you aspire to have in your society, you should work to strengthen the power of those who truly desire to improve and advance the situation of Haredi society, with respect and patience and not with cheap populism.

With the blessings of Patka Tev B, Sht. Levinger

Yud replied 6 years ago

And as the third round approaches, does the Rabbi still hold on to his intention not to vote?

מיכי Staff replied 6 years ago

Much more than before.

אורן replied 6 years ago

What about liberal economic power?
https://smb.org.il/#matza
Some kind of identity 2

מיכי Staff replied 6 years ago

I debated about this, but in conclusion I tend not to vote for them. There is the practical consideration (they don't tickle the threshold even with a telescope). But beyond that I have lost trust in these guys. They are a bit childish and Feiglin is a complete idiot.
But I can certainly understand those who vote for them by virtue of the categorical imperative, etc.

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