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Stealing from the yeshiva

שו”תCategory: HalachaStealing from the yeshiva
asked 3 years ago

Peace and blessings.
I have three questions:
1- One-time – The yeshiva director, who is the financial owner of the yeshiva, forbade bringing a chadaf into the rooms. Is there room to give an opinion on his words that, as long as it is not used excessively and inconsiderately, it is permissible. After all, it is clear that for the needs of a sick boy it is permissible to bring him into the room, and that his intention was not to prohibit it in the first place?
2- Charging a cell phone – The Rosh Yeshivah forbade charging any type of cell phone in the yeshivah. He later added that anyone who uses their cell phone discreetly in dormitories, etc., is allowed to charge it. The question is – is it permissible to charge a portable charger and use it to charge the cell phone? An argument was raised that there is certainly no reason to prohibit charging a portable charger (since, of course, just as it is permissible to charge Bluetooth headphones, it is permissible to charge a portable charger for the purpose of charging the headphones) and from there I already own the battery and use mine?
3- Portable air conditioner – the yeshiva (the owner-financial director) forbade using it. There is still a guy in our room who unfortunately was not informed that after the 2 commandments from God there was a continuation of the story, and stealing was forbidden.
The question is, am I allowed to enjoy his theft? And if so, when he leaves the room and does not turn off the air conditioner, am I obligated to turn it off (returning a loss to the yeshiva – saving the thief from stealing)?
I feel obliged to emphasize my appreciation for the Rabbi’s investment in her. This is extremely unusual and not taken for granted at all.
thanks!


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מיכי Staff answered 3 years ago
  1. I don’t understand. Why not upload a video to the rooms? I need an explanation of the background to this ban in order to answer.
  2. I didn’t understand why not? Electricity theft? You charge the phone through the portable charger. What’s the problem?
  3. I think there is an obligation to report theft. It is indeed worthwhile and appropriate to report it before you go to the administration. It is indeed puzzling to me that young men are required to endure the heat in order to save electricity. It is possible that you will contribute to the yeshiva the electricity costs of the portable air conditioner. It is indeed possible that the problem is not only theft, but that they are concerned that it will cause the electricity to go out because the electrical system in the boarding school is not prepared for high consumption. That is another matter.
  4. With great joy.

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(Another questioner:) I was in a yeshiva where it was forbidden to bring a cell phone. And the rosh yeshiva said that anyone who charged it was stealing. He also forbade bringing dishes (many times) from the dining room (probably out of fear that they would not be returned and lost).

My question is: A guy who did the above (charged a cell phone, brought dishes to his room), did he violate a prohibition?

הנ"ל replied 2 years ago

And do I need to return the money?

מיכי Staff replied 2 years ago

It seems that this should not be done against the yeshiva's instructions. But I tend to think that there is no obligation to pay. With tools, if they are lost in the end, then yes. When charging, you are allowed to use electricity for your own needs, so maybe there is some that you could use for another purpose (in your hand). It is also a small amount. If you want to be sure, donate some amount to the yeshiva.

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