Are we in redemption?
I know that you are hesitant to give prophetic significance to history and the processes taking place in the people of Israel.
But doesn’t it seem to the Rabbi that, according to the many prophecies given to us, the current reality matches the description of redemption?
And I know you say about prophecies that are vague and open to interpretation and therefore worthless, but don’t you think that the reasonable interpretation of the following prophecies shows that we are in the process of redemption, and why?
1. (b) And you shall return to the Lord your God and obey his voice according to all that I command you today, you and your children, with all your heart and with all your soul:
(3) And the Lord your God will bring back your captivity, and have mercy on you, and will bring you back and gather you from all the peoples where the Lord your God has scattered you.
(d) If you are cast out to the uttermost parts of heaven, from there the Lord your God will gather you, and from there he will take you up:
(5) And the Lord your God will bring you into the land which your fathers inherited, and you will inherit it, and he will do you good and multiply you more than your fathers:
2. “I will be with you in the land of the living, when I bring you out from the peoples, and gather you out of the countries where you have been scattered; and I will be sanctified in you in the sight of the nations. And you shall know that I am the Lord, when I bring you into the land of Israel, into the land which I lifted up my hand to give to your fathers.”
3. (11) And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again to buy the remnant of his people, which shall be left, out of Assyria, and out of Egypt, and out of Pathros, and out of Cush, and out of Elam, and out of Shinar, and out of Hamath, and out of the islands of the sea:
(12) And he shall bring a sign unto the nations, and shall gather together the outcasts of Israel, and the dispersed of Judah, from the four corners of the earth:
4. (14) And I will be established among you, and will turn back your captivity, and will gather you from all the nations, and from all the places where I have driven you, and will bring you back to the place from whence I caused you to be exiled:
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I understand about this specific prophecy, but from what little I know about you, you believe that nothing is certain, and therefore probability is usually sufficient. In the case at hand, we have explicit verses that speak of a future gathering of the exiles of the people of Israel from all nations and all lands. When I speak of redemption, I am not talking here about a belief that necessarily leads to action, but rather a simple belief in the claim that the prophecies are being fulfilled, and we are part of their fulfillment. Don’t you think that on this subject there are enough explicit prophecies that we see that they have been fulfilled? Of course, this is not conclusive proof, but in the case where a person believes in God, His Torah, and prophecy, what prevents you from adopting the plausible claim about the fulfillment of prophecy?
No one is preventing it. There could be a possibility. By the way, the exile group was also in the second house.
Ben Gurion heard that the bereaved in Beit Shean were looking for a livelihood.
In Ein Harod they were happy to give them work. If you are like us, you will live on the kibbutz. You will be our friends. You will eat from our water. We will drink together, etc. Be members of the kibbutz. We will share what we have with everyone. =
And the immigrants were not accustomed to kibbutz life, but to capitalist urban life.
And so they did not come to work on the kibbutz.
Ben Gurion heard about the conflict and decided to give a moral lesson to the kibbutzniks, not the immigrants from Beit Shean.
He came and said:
‘You are delaying the trumpet of Messiah for the exile kibbutz’
And he left.
The kibbutzniks surrendered and gave work in exchange for wages and not in exchange for membership in the kibbutz.
After all, according to our leader, the exile kibbutz is the trumpet of Messiah
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