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Preparing an oven for meat and dairy

שו”תPreparing an oven for meat and dairy
asked 3 months ago

To the honorable Rabbi, peace and blessings ,
I would like to ask a few questions regarding using one oven for my meat and dairy:
We usually use the same oven compartment for both dairy and meat dishes. Until now, we have been careful to wait 24 hours between cooking meat and dairy and vice versa, but we have not been careful to preheat the oven to high heat for half an hour.
Today I looked at “Pearls of Halacha”
 
https://ph.yhb.org.il/17-25-14/
And we discovered that it says you need to heat to high heat but you don’t need to wait 24 hours.
Therefore, I would like to ask the Rabbi the following questions:

  1. Is there a halachic method that states that one must wait 24 hours between using meat and dairy in the oven, even without heating the oven to high heat ? In other words, does this method stand on its own, or does it have no significant halachic basis?
  2. If I take upon myself the words of “Penini Halacha” – to heat the oven to high heat for half an hour between using meat and dairy – can I rely on the cola described there, and not wait 24 hours between uses ?
  3. It says there that “it is customary to clean” the oven before the hachshara. I would like to understand – is this cleaning part of the law, or is it just a matter of editing? ? Because if the oven is heated to high heat, there is seemingly no need for thorough cleaning, but only to make sure that there are no visible gross residues.
  4. Regarding meat-based foods, such as chips – is it true that the lenient opinion described in the halakhic references permits baking them in an oven that has consumed meat (or milk), even without preparation or a 24-hour wait ? In other words – when you want to eat the chips with a food of the opposite sex, and there are no actual leftovers in the oven – is it permissible to use them as is?

In closing, I would like to thank the rabbi for his assistance. Even when it comes to things that seem simple, it is important for me to make sure that I have understood the halacha correctly.
 


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מיכי Staff answered 3 months ago
See a brief overview of the methods here: https://www.kosharot.co.il/index2.php?id=411720&lang=HEB You can heat it without waiting. Although you may need to waive your vows, since you are doing it only to make it easier and not because you have come to the conclusion that you made a halachic mistake. Indeed, it is not necessary to clean completely. See the above review.    

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המבשל replied 3 months ago

I read on the website Koshtot that initially the oven grate must also be changed between meat and dairy. On the other hand, the ruling of Rabbi Melamed in “Pinin Halacha” does not specify this. Until now, we have not made a point of changing the grate, and I have not seen any other source that requires it – so my question is: Is this a strict Koshtot requirement and is it possible to use the same grate after the first one?

Also, what is the ruling when preparing a food made with fur, such as chips – when switching from a meat oven to a dairy oven (or vice versa), should the oven be heated to high heat for half an hour initially, or can it be made easier because it involves fur?

מיכי Staff replied 3 months ago

In my opinion, there is no need to change the mesh to a method that uses the same oven.
Regarding the fur, you correctly quoted from Rabbi Melamed.

המבשל replied 10 hours ago

I read the answer again.
I just point out that I wait 24 hours between uses.
So I just made a pizza and I want to make fries in an hour. Can I eat the parve fries if my schnitzel is cooked, according to the rabbi?

מיכי Staff replied 9 hours ago

I won't answer anymore. Your way is always repeating the same question over and over again. I don't know if it's OCD, in any case I don't treat these symptoms.

המבשל replied 4 hours ago

That's fine, you don't have to answer
It's not diagnosed OCD. Sometimes the Rabbi answers indirectly and I don't fully understand.
I'll leave it at that.
Thanks for all the answers, I'll try to understand them.

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