A Look at the 5781 Riots (Column 388)
With God’s help
Disclaimer: This post was translated from Hebrew using AI (ChatGPT 5 Thinking), so there may be inaccuracies or nuances lost. If something seems unclear, please refer to the Hebrew original or contact us for clarification.
This column is dedicated to my dear son, Shlomi,
and no less to the naturalistic fallacy and the failure to distinguish between values and facts that surfaced for me in our debate.
In the previous column I discussed the Meron disaster and its implications, but I didn’t touch on the question of responsibility. I could now address our present-absent Minister of Public Security (who knows where he is? Has anyone heard anything?) and our Prime Minister—both of whom get to sign off on another fiasco within two weeks (who today even remembers Meron?): the 5781 riots. True, at the same time there are currently intense coalition negotiations as well as the latest round with Hamas, rockets flying at Jerusalem and the Dan region for the first time (a red line crossed?), but none of that is actually the important issue these days. That’s just a return to routine after COVID. What is truly new are the internal riots now raging inside the country, mainly in the mixed cities and not only there, while no one is doing anything. The State of Israel is on fire and the government and police are not with us. Last night we witnessed mutual lynchings of Jews and Arabs, together with heavy (relatively) and futile (as usual) bombings in Gaza, and of course barrages of rockets and civilians confined to shelters across the country (at least up to Netanya and the Jezreel Valley). This is an unprecedented situation, and it feels like an earthquake that puts COVID in the shade (though the time scale is much shorter). Signed with both hands on all this is the collection of the corrupt and the dwarfs currently at the helm. They built themselves a non-functioning platform (and are, these days, working on another one) that carries us on its palms to the situation I described here. I postponed some columns I planned to write, since the current events demand some response. But I won’t address responsibility directly here, since those fellows are the last people interested in responsibility (and my columns don’t really interest them either). Here I wish to present eight insights that arose in me during these events. Of course, we are still in the thick of it and things may yet develop. There hasn’t been enough time to think and process, thus no perspective. Still, I can’t let this pass in silence. So everything here is true as of now (at most).
Background: The Dead and the Killers of Lod
By way of background, as a resident of Lod—one of the main hotspots—I’ll try to sketch the situation. In recent evenings, battles and civil wars have raged in the streets. Firearms so far only at the margins (though they’re starting to appear), but there’s plenty of cold weapons and arson. Groups of people roam the streets armed with cold and hot weapons, seeking contact. Hundreds of cars have already been burned, several synagogues and the pre-military academy. The streets are full of smoke and fire everywhere and sometimes it’s hard to breathe. Needless to say, various outside actors, Jews and Arabs, arrive and join the party and even fan the flames. Arabs from Jaffa and East Jerusalem on the one hand, and elements from Yitzhar and La Familia on the Jewish side, are very happy to participate and stoke what’s happening. The scene looks like gang and gunslinger wars in a lawless Wild West, only unlike there I don’t see the Texas Rangers who, in the movies, always come at the end to restore order. Here they don’t exist. For now there are mostly injured and few dead (as far as I know while writing, one Arab killed in Lod), but in my estimation if the vacuum continues, that too will change before long. I pinch myself to believe this is happening in the State of Israel in the 21st century. Until now I lived with the feeling that left-wing warnings about regime and democracy collapse were baseless hysteria. Here this won’t happen, cannot happen. Well—turns out it can. These days we’re not far off from it (though not necessarily for their reasons—perhaps for the opposite ones).
This is a colossal failure unlike anything we’ve seen, with clear parties responsible and to blame. This time even Ohana, the Minister of Public Security, the demagogue and the present-absent man, won’t be able to deploy his well-known erudition and distinguish between responsibility and blame, as he did so elegantly with respect to the Meron event. Here the blame is directly his, not merely ministerial responsibility. But as noted, I’m not dealing here with that collection of incompetents. I presented the situation only as a general description of the failure, to serve as background for several principled points worth noting (some I’ve addressed before).
A. The Wonders of Social Media
First I return to column 335. The penny dropped for me after a debate I had the day before yesterday with my son, Shlomi, about the events. I described to him, with excitement and full confidence, everything that happened around the incident that ignited the blaze in Lod (the shooting of an Arab on Jerusalem Day), and he kept asking me, rightly, how I knew those details. Until finally I realized I actually didn’t know, and then I understood something important about turbulent situations like these.
In these frantic days, people around me (including myself, of course) are all living in movies. WhatsApp and the social networks are arenas that generate feelings and modes of thinking that affect our entire perception of reality. We can all claim to be savvy media consumers who know how to sift wheat from chaff, but that’s not entirely true. Even experienced consumers inevitably fall into the traps of social media. Every WhatsApp group (I’m exposed only to that network, and even that in limited fashion) is naturally made up of people who think alike and belong to the same milieu. Thus the militant right (which is expanding around us) is fueled by “facts” all pointing to Arab rioting and pogroms against Jews who are merely trying to defend themselves, and of course the evil police arrest only them (there isn’t a single Arab detainee!! so WhatsApp says). The militant left and the Arabs also feed off WhatsApp and present the same tendentious blindness, only they belong to a different milieu. There, the picture that forms is the exact opposite: settlers rampage with weapons against innocent Arab passers-by and there is no one to stop them. And the police—surprise!—collaborate with them and harm Arabs.
So who’s right? I assume both, to a degree. The police truly do nothing, but I gather they don’t act very evenly. They mainly try to do the bare minimum and on the way buy a few minutes of quiet (for themselves, not for others). They tend to use force against the weak but do nothing where they’re truly needed. It’s not just that the police don’t fix the situation; they are primarily responsible (mainly by scandalous neglect) for the chaos raging here. Hear me, Ohana? (I don’t know if my words reach the bunker where he’s hiding these days.)
In WhatsApp-world, every small incident becomes a worldview and a general natural phenomenon. A picture of a destroyed house (who knows if it itself isn’t fake) becomes a sweeping claim that every home abandoned by Jews is destroyed by Arab invaders (so everyone—come fight for the house! We will not go like sheep to the slaughter!). You see a photo of police evacuating Jews from mixed buildings with Arabs, which naturally arouses great frustration and anger, and this immediately turns into a general picture: this is what’s done in Lod. Evacuating Jews, aiding Arabs. Practically the British Mandate police. As is known, a picture is worth a thousand words, and a rousing slogan that accompanies the picture’s “analysis” is worth a thousand arguments.
In short, I suddenly noticed I was describing to my son Shlomi, with excitement, what happened around the shooting in which the Arab was killed the day before yesterday, as if everything were crystal clear. I passionately explained that the police again arrested people who were merely defending themselves. Don’t tell anyone, but I even found myself—contrary to my usual policy—driving to the Rishon LeZion courthouse to show support for the detainees brought for remand. I still feel sympathy for them and understand their actions, but I’m less sure now about what in fact happened. Needless to say, when Ben-Gvir and his colleagues took command of the scene there, I felt clearly I’d made a mistake.
When I pull myself together and try to dig deeper, I usually discover the picture is a bit more complex. Indeed, Arabs are rioting and incited, indeed this doesn’t necessarily relate to facts (see: “Al-Aqsa is in danger”), indeed different players stir the pot and fan the flames, and indeed the police are utterly non-functional—but not very different phenomena occur on the Jewish side too. We also have racists and rioters, violent nihilists who harm innocents for no reason (see the shocking lynch that happened this evening in Bat Yam), or just normal people making mistakes under pressure and fear. It turns out it’s not so clear what really happens in each such event, even though everyone is so certain and knows the facts for sure. Agenda gets mixed with facts, and the mutual reinforcement group members get from each other generates a dangerous sense of certainty and dangerous frustrations not always built on a solid factual basis (see that column). Both sides are driven by feelings of absolute justice and palpable danger, and then a collision is inevitable.
From the Jewish side, the facts are unequivocal: Arabs are rioters and Jews are arrested for nothing. Jews go out to defend their lives, in real danger from a mob of incited, masked rioters, and they are the ones the police arrest, while Arabs go free. Ukraine and the British Mandate are here. But I’m sure that among the Arabs, that is precisely the picture (as noted, I’m not in their WhatsApp groups); just swap “Jews” and “Arabs” in the previous sentences.
Clarification: My principled position on such shooting
To sharpen the message, I’ll clarify my principled stance. You may be surprised, but I’m entirely in favor of shooting rioters, even before there is a concrete danger to life. Rioters who attack me and do not heed warnings, even if they threaten only property, can and should pay with their lives. I wrote similar things around the Shai Dromi affair, and argued there this is also the halakhah (contrary to popular interpretation of “ba ba-machteret”). Therefore I have no moral claims against those who shot that Arab, even if the danger he posed wasn’t unequivocal, and even if it was property rather than life at stake. I have no empathy for rioters—neither Arabs nor Jews—and I truly do not feel sorrow for the life of such a rioter taken (if indeed he was a rioter; I don’t know). Good riddance. My claim here is not about justifying the act or whether it is worthy or not, but solely about examining the facts that led to it and occurred within it. I want to remind you and myself, again and again, that the descriptions of reality circulating on social networks are not reality itself. My sympathy for the shooters still stands, but now I realize the knowledge of what happened doesn’t really exist for me. I suspect not many understand this—and even fewer internalize it.
Yet despite my basic sympathy and my fundamentally militant approach, it’s important to say I also think anarchy is a problem (which is why my anarchist tendencies usually don’t find practical expression). In principle, the police should have done this (shot rioters, Jews or Arabs), but when there’s a police vacuum, as in the 5781 riots or in Shai Dromi’s case, then in my view a private individual can take the law into his own hands. The police should long since have used live fire against rioters—Jewish or Arab. Yes, I’m talking about shooting to kill rioters, even if it’s not to save lives but to impose discipline. Entrust that authority to a senior officer, but it must be done. Anarchy is a tremendous danger to human life and to our existence here (see my essay here, where I show that undermining the state framework and its functioning has the status of pikuach nefesh, even if no one ultimately dies). As in many cases in the past (see: Intifada), so here, the excessive caution that allegedly spares human life—but mainly stems from cowardice—can cost us many more lives. A king can and must kill when his authority and rule are threatened, for without him, people devour one another. Today we see this with our own eyes. Not for nothing, a rebel against the monarchy is liable to death. If we’re told that a democratic government has the status of a king, we should draw the conclusions here as well.
But again, the problem I’m dealing with here is solely the description of reality. I suddenly understood that I, Michael Avraham—the rational and critical one who isn’t so immersed in the immediate and virtual environment—am becoming brainwashed in the heat of events. I realized I had adamant positions about the events when, in truth, I had no real clue about what actually happened. So I took a step back, I’m recalculating, and among other things, writing you these lines.
This is the first insight: Don’t believe any story you hear or see until you’ve checked well and heard from additional sources (preferably also from the other side). And certainly don’t draw general conclusions from that specific event, even if you’ve become convinced about it. This applies all the more in times of unrest and riots like these days. The virtual madness has lost what few brakes it had. People spread fabrications, sometimes even with good intentions (usually to spur private and institutional actors to act).
B. The Governmental and Enforcement Vacuum
One thing is crystal clear: it all begins with a governmental and enforcement vacuum. The justification I find for the shooting by Shai Dromi or by those involved in the riots here in Lod is solely because of this vacuum. When there’s no police, you have to be your own police. There’s no one else to do the job for you. Farmers like Shai Dromi, who lose the labor of their lives because of this governmental fecklessness—will testify.
At the root of police failure is governmental failure. There’s supposed to be someone running our abysmal police and setting its policy. There isn’t. The government doesn’t function and has no clue what to do, in almost every field. It doesn’t want to and cannot do anything. Add to that a police force that, in the absence of orders, only wants an easy life and a few quiet days, and unsurprisingly shows total dysfunction—and you have a proven recipe for riots.
The story in Lod escalated following a shooting incident the day before yesterday (mentioned above) where a young Arab was killed by a Jew’s pistol in Lod. I heard from friends that there was a confrontation between a group of Jews and Arabs, dozens on each side. There were cinder blocks and finally a Molotov cocktail. All along people were calling the police—some practically in tears—asking and begging them to come (recordings of the calls are circulating on WhatsApp). One acquaintance called the police and told them the Jews intended to shoot and demanded they come immediately. But the police didn’t arrive even after an hour and a quarter of pleading, even when told explicitly that shots were imminent. Afterwards I heard the excuses about stretched manpower across the country. Not buying it. Proof: after the shooting they arrived en masse right away, and arrested—surprise!—three Jews on suspicion of manslaughter.
Naturally, the Jewish narrative formed around the case is that these were people who bravely went out to stop Arab rioters in the absence of police, to defend their lives, their friends’ lives, and property—and when they had no choice they fired (into the air). Later I learned that at least partially this isn’t exactly the story. They first went out with flags to express sovereignty and governance (I can imagine the atmosphere), and I don’t know how clear and unequivocal the danger was at the moment of shooting (I truly don’t know). The claim was that the shooter felt a palpable danger and fired into the air, but somehow the Arab was hit and died. But I’ve already spoken about my grasp of the facts and my sobering up. I’ll only say that from there—especially after the Arab’s funeral—the Lod riots snowballed into the madness we’re now experiencing. Civil wars like the Wild West, where there is no law and no judge. The vacuum leads us straight from Lodz and Blue Ridge to Lod.
Such a situation causes frustrations to build and weapons and tensions to accumulate, making riots inevitable. Arab gunfire, almost always on a criminal background, is an everyday thing in Lod. The police threaten but do nothing (“We’ll operate with full force and zero tolerance, at the time and place we deem appropriate.” Sound familiar?). Arabs themselves complain the police don’t care because the weapons aren’t harming Jews—and there’s some truth to that. But when they’re required to cooperate, and certainly when required to pay any price (e.g., provide information to the police), you’ll always find them on the other side. They of course refuse to cooperate and even fight alongside their “persecuted brothers” (the criminal gun-holders) against the Zionist, occupying, hostile police. Enlisting in the police? Don’t even mention it (same on our side, of course; if you didn’t know—I didn’t enlist there either). But of course, in their view, the police are to blame for everything. The police must save them from themselves (a typical Palestinian claim)[1]. But we can’t deny they’re right. Despite all my justifications and critique of the Arabs’ stance, the police still should have acted—because the foreseeable results are already almost here, and worse lies just around the corner.
C. The Vacuum Doesn’t Stay Empty: Between Lod and Giv’ot Olam
Into this vacuum, of course, step all the world’s provocateurs, from all sides. Ben-Gvir and his fellows live off such scenes. Who came to that demonstration in Rishon LeZion? Ben-Gvir, of course. Who spoke and set the tone there? Ben-Gvir, of course. But he’s right, since the lack of governance here is indeed disgraceful. I didn’t see Meretz people step in to manage the vacuum, nor even Bennett. Although there’s merit to the claim that someone needs to act in place of the police, I’d very much prefer that that “someone” not be the Ben-Gvirs and the Yitzhar folk.
Thus, Yitzhar hooligans and La Familia arrive in Lod and other cities across the country, and anyone observing them can see they’re enjoying every moment. Anarchy gives them life, and they’re experts with experience in such situations. The curses those “righteous ones” hurl when they come to help God’s warriors in Lod and elsewhere would not shame the last of the beasts in a pigsty. They fight valiantly against two young Arabs throwing stones, and with my astonished ears I heard them, while doing so, bark to one another—as well as to the local Sancho Panza seeking to tag along and learn their holy ways—military commands like: “Align the line,” and so on. Their feeling (and that of their surroundings) is that this is a desperate battle of heroism on Ammunition Hill.
Needless to say, enthusiasm among city residents (those Sanchos) overflows. Everyone cheers the Yitzhar heroes who came to our aid and fill the void. Stories spread immediately of how the police don’t dare budge here and wait for Yitzhar escort vehicles. Needless to say, everyone quotes this urban legend (at least that’s my assessment) as pure fact, and the feeling is that the Yitzharites arranged matters for us here—kudos to them. True, all that was the day before yesterday (Monday). Last night (Tuesday), La Familia’s saints joined in, and this parade of beasts makes the Yitzhar people look like knights of law and morality. Everything is relative. I sense that at this stage quite a few Lod residents sobered up. Everyone now sees these are bipedal beasts by all accounts, lacking restraint but not knives (once again, a long-standing police and governmental failure).
The mechanism goes like this. Lod’s bourgeois don’t know how to handle such situations. They’re accountants and lawyers living in comfortable homes (like me), unaccustomed to street battles and riots. They’re even a little afraid of tangling with the police, heaven forbid (since when it comes to us and against us, the police do act). So it’s convenient to hand the task to the Yitzhar gangs and be led by them (Sancho syndrome). In the absence of police, when a sense of helplessness forms vis-à-vis Arab rioters (sometimes real, sometimes imagined), it’s natural for those savages from Yitzhar to “handle it.” They have experience, and they give a sense of security in the streets because they’re “ours,” even if that comes along with completely unnecessary incitement that doesn’t add anything for anyone (not even to security), and even if it’s clear they’re relishing every moment. Still, it gives a good feeling, and thus helps them secure a leadership status as a new, proud Jewish model that won’t go like sheep to the slaughter. For them, it helps create identification with the battles they wage on the hilltops over the years against the establishment, the army, and the Arabs. Now the bourgeois here will understand they are right and that only this way can it work. So no wonder they quickly arrive in Lod, seize leadership positions, and get to work, and later spread tales of heroism on social networks. I’m not claiming they lack good intentions, only that these are accompanied by a very problematic agenda and by an equally problematic exploitation of the opportunity.
We must understand that this rampage in the streets gives many here a sense of Jewish pride—especially against the backdrop of the accumulating frustration from ongoing humiliation. People feel like victims of a pogrom, helpless like our forefathers in Ukraine—only this is happening in sovereign Israel. Our local “Indians” riot against us—those in Gaza and, in parallel, those in Lod—while the institutions and security forces do nothing. Is this why we established a state? Shall we go like sheep to the slaughter? Hence a natural sympathy develops for these savages, and level-headed people turn before my eyes into a slightly milder type of hilltop anarchist.
From last night’s lynch images in Bat Yam, I sense the Lod phenomenon I described is broader and more general. There too, La Familia’s beasts dragged additional locals who joined and carried out a shocking lynch on an Arab who (apparently by mistake) drove into the area. The governmental and enforcement vacuum grants leadership space to any actor who enters forcefully enough. The riot-instigators, aside from the pure enjoyment they derive from the situation, know they’ll profit from it—and so they happily and zealously contribute their part. The Sanchos—meaning us—arrive right after.
D. What’s the Alternative?
At the margins I must add a factual note, beyond value claims. In my estimation, had these guys not come, even factually things would be much better—at least in the long term. Again, I don’t pity rioters, and I have no leftist pangs of conscience about a forceful, assertive civilian response—certainly when a governmental and enforcement vacuum reigns. But even if in the short term these savages act more sharply and quickly and even if they achieve some results (I doubt even that—certainly not as claimed), in the long term it brings mainly harm. In my view, their absence would have forced us—Lod’s bourgeois—to organize and handle matters with our own hands. That had already begun. If we had done it and not they, I suppose it would have been carried out a bit more balanced and measured, and perhaps wouldn’t have inflamed as it has now.
Therefore, with all due respect to their mobilization and idealism, I’m really not thrilled by the help of those “righteous” who came here. I must say it’s entirely possible, even likely, that there are truly good motives and devotion there—also in their Yitzhar activity. I’m sure part of it is a genuine desire to help people (excuse me—Jews) in distress and to fulfill the commandment of settling and conquering the land. But accompanying this are highly problematic motives and conduct, and the expected results are disastrous. So I would gladly forgo their “kindness.”
E. A Look at Sovereignty: On the Movement of Ideas in Israel
It’s worth remembering that the pogroms and these events began on Jerusalem Day—the day on which national/nationalist feeling bursts out proudly over our (non-existent) sovereignty in Jerusalem. It’s common that Jerusalem Day is almost a full consensus in the religious community, unlike Independence Day, which is disputed by the Haredim. As you can understand, to me Jerusalem Day is meaningless—unlike Independence Day. On Independence Day we merited a state and independence—certainly a reason to celebrate. But on Jerusalem Day we merited theoretical (and not truly realized) sovereignty in Jerusalem. I think theoretical sovereignty over a place is not a reason to celebrate—certainly not when it’s the sovereignty of the State of Israel, a secular state with no religious meaning (I don’t think it’s a Jewish state in the essential sense). That’s true even had we had sovereignty in Jerusalem. When it isn’t realized, it’s even more meaningless. At most, the victory granted us limited access to the Western Wall and ascent to the Temple Mount by permission of the Waqf for interested parties (no praying and no murmuring, heaven forbid). So what is there to celebrate? The theoretical sovereignty of the State of Israel—the beginning of our confusion—over Jerusalem? I wrote people two days ago that I don’t understand the point of celebrating Jerusalem Day when we haven’t yet conquered it. Why harness the horses before the cart?!
But following these days’ riots, I’m beginning to doubt—by the same logic—the value and meaning of Independence Day too. It seems sovereignty in the whole land isn’t really existent either, not just in Jerusalem. I confess and am ashamed that after presenting the spiritual developments here, I’m beginning to feel that these words are my version of a revised “Faith of Our Times.”
I’ve said and written more than once that flag-dancing isn’t truly celebration and joy, but a nationalist show of sovereignty. The more the understanding that we don’t really have sovereignty, that we haven’t truly returned to Jerusalem, penetrates people’s consciousness, the more frustration grows—and it’s no wonder it bursts out as nationalist bluster in the style of “We’ll show them who’s boss” (if the police and government won’t do it—we’re here. The eternal people aren’t afraid, etc.). It’s now easy to see what this means regarding the 5781 riots.
The riots across the country and in Lod broke out on Jerusalem Day itself, following Hamas rocket fire at Jerusalem (which also led to the cancellation of the flag march). I think once again frustration was created by an injury to our sense of sovereignty. Let them shell the Gaza Envelope and a few unfortunates die there whom no one really cares about—but to send a rocket to a supermarket or public garden in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv? That’s a real red-line crossing. And if they ruin our dance that expresses frustration over the absence of sovereignty—then the frustration doubles. We lack sovereignty even to express our frustration at the lack of sovereignty. The usual frustrations over non-existent sovereignty in Jerusalem expanded naturally to the rest of the country and inflamed greatly. People go out to demonstrations with flags to express sovereignty, and that elicits “suitable” Arab responses from the opposing nationalist camp. The events we’re witnessing are the result of that frustration. It’s a desire to show sovereignty and express frustration at its absence, wherever the state is missing—and that vacuum generates everything described above, and thus the sovereignty we had achieved to some measure is going to waste.
F. Futility
To be honest, the hardest feeling these days—beyond the colossal lack of governance and control—is futility, both inward and outward. Citizens are prepared to endure shelters, property damage, suffering, even loss of life—if it’s clear there’s purpose. If it were clear there’s a government that knows what to do, acts along a decided path, and after a day, a week, or a year we might reap fruits of our efforts. But everyone knows that what’s happening now has no purpose. Not that perhaps we won’t see fruits—people can err in assessments, expectations, and plans, and that’s forgivable. Here there are simply no expectations or plans, and thus nothing to realize. What’s happening today in Gaza is yet another round in a long series that have brought us nothing beyond the price in civilian and military lives and in property that drives people into distress. And at the end of each round, we pay “tax/bribe” to Hamas that further improves their situation, so they might deign to grant us a bit of quiet. The dumping of tons of metal on Gaza is nothing but venting frustration, not policy (remember: war is the continuation of policy by force). Everyone knows it’s meant to give citizens a sense of satisfaction from revenge for the injury to them and to the state’s sovereignty, and also to divert public attention and provide catharsis for their frustrations. None of this has any practical aim. We won’t achieve even quiet there (unless the Palestinians need a break and more funding for rearmament).
All that regarding Gaza and Hamas. As for the internal riots now raging, it’s even clearer. The context is clear: utter helplessness of the government and army, standing powerless before relatively weak actors and unable to move the needle. They don’t even have goals or expectations—so how are they to act to realize non-goals? There’s a connection between Gaza events and the 5781 pogrom—not just their proximity in time. Both result from the same helplessness and fecklessness, and thus they influence and feed each other. I’ve already noted (see e.g., column 149) that Israeli governments have no policy, no real aim in any field, apart from a heartbreaking wish to gain a few more quiet days. But our game-theory sages taught us: whoever seeks quiet will never get it. Or in another phrasing: he who desires peace must prepare for war. Helplessness creates frustration, the vacuum calls outside forces into it, and that’s a tried-and-true recipe for the disintegration we’re now witnessing.
G. The 5781 Events and the Joker
At the end of column 258 I referred to the film Joker, which for me was an instructive experience. It stirred in me not a few gloomy reflections about human society, especially about the bubbling lava beneath the organized and orderly outer layer that characterizes modern society. I thought that within every society lie so many tensions and different forces: crazy people, psychopaths, rigid and determined ideological forces, enemies outside and within, plain wicked folk, and more—that it’s a wonder that, broadly speaking, the various democracies function fairly normally. We have rules and institutions that organize our lives, and the feeling is that all those hidden threats don’t exist. Who even thinks about them? But the Joker’s director apparently did. He shows us how a small, random spark—an ordinary man at the margins—can bring that bubbling lava to the surface; suddenly the fabric of our calm, orderly lives turns into utter chaos, with violent street battles between groups of rioters and governmental paralysis. To be clear, I’m describing what happened in the film, not what’s happening now on our streets. Admit it: it’s very hard to tell the difference.
As citizens of a modern democracy, it’s very hard for us to digest that in the past diseases and plagues killed people and children before whom we stood helpless. It’s strange to us that violent people could then attack you and you couldn’t really call the police to arrive within minutes (?). At best you could recruit a militia, build a coalition of associates or mercenaries, and try to defend yourself. In illness you could perhaps pray and use grandma’s remedies—and that’s it. Infant mortality and life expectancy of thirty–forty were part of life. In trouble you might solicit donations to be saved, if you managed. If not—you’re in trouble. No wonder everyone then was religious! We have only our Father in Heaven. Today, by contrast, we have insurance and/or national insurance to help when needed; an army and police to assist us in an organized way; courts, laws, and a sophisticated central government; a decentralized food supply functioning astonishingly (wonders of the free market); organized welfare and education; technology and global logistics enabling us to move elsewhere if needed; communications and information flood; and more. Seemingly, we can cope with any calamity and our fate is in our hands. Today we have technology, advanced medicine, orderly government, power mechanisms and power-control mechanisms that control all this—and thus we feel calm and tranquil day to day.
That’s the angst COVID aroused in so many of us. Suddenly we returned to the Middle Ages and to strange, forgotten notions like plagues and mass death beyond our control. Even the all-knowing men of science stood helpless before the phenomenon, not always managing even to analyze what was—and certainly not to predict what would be. I feel the events of these days evoke similar feelings. They’re the result of a small spark and inattention that—like in Joker—reveals reservoirs of lava hidden beneath the calm cover that previously wrapped us. Suddenly we’ve returned from mid-21st-century life in an orderly state to the depths of the Middle Ages: pogroms in the streets, insecurity, pogroms against Jews (and Arabs), loss of livelihood, loss of control, lack of central government, and the like. Nothing is as certain as it was two days ago—including our very existence here. Our fate is no longer truly in our hands. No wonder people feel it’s time to take it back. If it’s the Middle Ages—act like the Middle Ages. In Rome, do as the Romans. I’ve noticed I’m so accustomed to the previous order and protection that these descriptions don’t even make me feel fear. I’m as calm now as I was three days ago, and the depictions I present above come from the head, not the heart. I don’t truly believe it can all fall apart.
H. So Who Is to Blame?
In my estimation, this failure utterly dwarfs the Yom Kippur War fiasco—they’re not even in the same league. These days I think there’s some risk (though currently not high) that the State of Israel won’t survive these events—but even if it does, it’s unclear what things will look like. Everyone knows that in Israel today there is no government, and we’re in a crisis unprecedented to date. The street battles raging across the country before the helpless eyes of our passive, clueless police are the result of years of eroding governance, where every power—executive, political, judicial, or media—does whatever seems right in its own eyes. From constitutional unraveling we’ve reached complete unraveling. It only remains for the weapons stockpiled in the Arab sector to come out and be used, for a change, nationally rather than “just” criminally—and if Hezbollah joins the party with its rockets, I truly don’t know what will be left of us.
But fear not—no one here will be held to account for this failure, nor for the previous ones. Not the corrupt one at the top, not the vanishing Minister of Public Security, nor the other dwarfs and incompetents around him who do nothing and brought us to this state. It’s hard for me to imagine a collection of creatures more pitiful—except perhaps the citizens who vote for them again and again and won’t let this fecklessness affect their choices. In the end, the blame is always ours—the citizens. We’re the ones who let this reality happen and let La Familia rule the day, and we do nothing. We’re the ones who repeatedly vote for the same incompetents and the same bleary-eyed dwarfs without noticing the costs and consequences. So I shouldn’t complain—we’re eating what we ourselves cooked.
[1] Just today I heard Arab voices in Lod claiming that the two Arab fatalities from yesterday’s Gaza rocket that landed in Lod are the direct fault of the Jewish, Zionist, occupying police and government. Why? Because they didn’t build them shelters. How can we allow their brothers—those who enjoy their support and sympathy in acts of terror and rocket fire against us—to kill them too, and not only us?! Truly we are to blame. We should have protected them well to allow them to cheer the rocket fire at us and rejoice at every death on our side. Shame.
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I just checked the blog yesterday to see if a new article about the Tashfa riots had been updated.
In September 2017, I very much understand the behavior of the police officers on the ground, who are not interested in getting involved with the Arab rioters. After all, the division of cases in the Shinui government has already been agreed upon, in which the left will have an absolute majority - Lapid, Gantz, Labor and Martz will set the tone. It has already been agreed that Merav Michaeli will be the Minister of Public Security, and Shai Nitzan the Attorney General. With such a Minister of Police and such an Attorney General, what police officer would want to get involved? If, God forbid, he kills one of the Arab rioters on the ground, he is expected to face merciless criminal proceedings. It is clear to the officers and police officers on the ground that "low intensity" must be maintained.
However, the Arab rioters who cannot hold back even for a short time are well remembered. As in 1996, after Rabin's assassination, when it was clear that the left would win the elections and advance the withdrawal processes - the terrorists could not be patient and increased the bombings on buses, which led to the victory of the right and the rise of Benjamin Netanyahu, who made it clear to them that the continuation of the political process is incompatible with the continuation of terrorism.
Even now, if the Arab rioters had been wise and waited for the rise of the left-wing government - they would have been able to see the weakening of the government. Now that they have brought the disturbances forward by several days - they have greatly reduced the chance of establishing a left-wing government, which will rush to them to carry out withdrawals without compensation and without peace.
More than once, the Arabs save the situation with their stubbornness, and with their stubbornness they cut short the achievement of their independence.
Best regards, Amioz Yaron Schnitzel
And even before the horrific scenario that was supposed to bring the left-wing government to power with Merav Michaeli as Minister of Internal Security, the police are also paralyzed by fear of the "gatekeepers", as happened in the riots of 2000, when the police responded with force and killed 13 rioters, and then an investigative committee was established headed by left-wing judge Theodore Or, which led to the dismissal of the police commanders who dealt harshly with the rioters. It is no wonder that the police forces in the field are afraid of confronting Arab rioters.
The last elections could have brought about a stable government based on 65 Knesset members from the right-wing bloc. A stable majority that could have put in place the dictatorship of the "gatekeepers". Unfortunately, the personal hatred of Bennett and Saar and their partners for Netanyahu grew stronger, to the point that they were ready to join forces with the left to oust Netanyahu. Since Shevant and his friends have already come down from the tree, all that remains is to continue praying that Gideon Moshe Ben Bruria and his friends will also return to their quarry on the right, and together the forces will be combined to restore order and security in our country.
With best wishes, Aisha
On September 14, 2017 (Benny Gantz's 62nd birthday)
‘Years have gone by together unless they were destined’ – Riots by Israeli Arabs erupted in no coincidence with the Hamas rocket attack. Let's try to speculate on the reasons for the outbreak.
It turns out that the rise of the Biden regime in the US, which is hostile to Israel and comfortable with the Palestinians, and at the same time the expectation of the rise of a left-wing government in Israel – are an excellent reason for the outbreak of terror and riots, in the sense of ‘There is no one to blame but the one to blame’ 🙂 When there are those who are ready to make sweeping concessions for the sake of the ‘peace process’ – It is time to increase the pressure to win more sweeping concessions.
However, there may be a case for internal struggles for control among the Palestinians. Hamas is resentful of Mahmoud Abbas's cancellation of the Palestinian Authority elections, elections that they expected would also lead to Hamas taking control of Judea and Samaria. On the other hand, Hamas' allies among the Israeli Arabs - the members of the "Northern Faction" of the Islamic Movement (and possibly some members of the Palestinian Authority) - are concerned about the integration of Mansour Abbas and Ayman Odeh as legitimate partners in the Israeli coalition.
The revival of the armed struggle both at home and abroad - They are an attempt by Hamas to harm Abbas (both Mansour and Mahmoud) 🙂
With greetings, Shams Razel Al-Fanjar, Qubat al-Najma
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However, there may also be an issue here…
According to the explanation I put forward in the response above, that the riots are being organized by Hamas emissaries within the Arabs of the country - it is perhaps possible to assume that the police's reluctance to deal with the rioters forcefully is because the effort and allocation of forces are currently focused on suppressing and deterring Hamas in Gaza, out of an unwillingness to launch a high-intensity struggle on two fronts.
The idea is also that as soon as Hamas in Gaza begins to shy away from the price that will be exacted from it - an order will be given from there to their emissaries here to calm down. Even the ability of the rioters inside the country who are not backed by the government and an organized army - is smaller, and there is a greater chance that they will tire more quickly than their Gazan emissaries.
Of course, these things are not beyond the scope of the hypothesis. I have no information beyond what is published in the media.
Best regards, Yerachmiel Fishel Halevi Azrieli
On the face of it, cutting off electricity, both to the rioters' neighborhoods and to Gaza, would be an effective means of stopping the rampage and the rockets. However, the High Court prevents the use of this effective means, for "moral" reasons. May God open our blind eyes and give our leaders the strength and courage to do what is necessary.
With best wishes, Yafi'a Halevi
MK (former) Yaakov Gaetz (Katzela) from Beit El proposes to mobilize reserve forces and impose a curfew on Arab cities where there are riots. See the article: ‘Katzela: Impose a curfew on Arab cities’ (on the ‘Channel 7’ website.
With greetings, Yafi”
Apparently, the power cut will cause all those in doubt in these neighborhoods to go out and join the rioters. What else do they have to do at home?
To Eric 1 – Hello,
There is a high probability that people who need peace to live and make a living – will get tired of the rioters' rampage. Now that you can work during the day and let them run wild at night – your livelihood is not affected. When life becomes unbearable for the Arab population – there is a good chance that they will put the rioters in their place themselves.
Best regards, Yafi”
And now perhaps this is the right time to reflect on the harsh resoluteness regarding the coronavirus (maybe the reality is still what has been published on every platform and network?)
After quite a bit of reflection on the answer, I repeat that Misha has not moved from his place. But I recommend that you try and apply the matter to your statements.
You have fallen here, in my opinion. A fall that I am not clear about where it stems from.
The timeline has completely disappeared from the equation, the scope of the act is not heard in all eight sections.
Saying that these and those are barbarians and hooligans is factually correct, but lies to the reality that claims to represent the phenomenon as a derivative of the culture from which the rioters came.
I would love to hear your opinion, why who started it is not a central question in the whole matter?
What is the scope of the phenomenon and its intensity in each of the sectors (Jewish and Arab)?
Are these things unimportant in terms of reality?
I don't remember making any comparison between Arabs and Jews in any Qom. Read it again.
Not explicitly, but the whole spirit of the matter stems from the assumption that there is uniformity. “Into this vacuum, of course, all the provocateurs in the world enter, and from all sides…From the Jewish side, the facts are unequivocal: the Arabs are rioters and the Jews are simply arrested. The Jews go out to defend their lives, which are in tangible danger, against an incited crowd of masked rioters, and it is they who are arrested by the police, and peace to the Arabs. Ukraine and the British Mandate are here. But I am sure that this is also the case with the Arabs (as mentioned, I am not in their WhatsApp groups), just replace 'Jews' with 'Arabs' in the previous sentences…So who is right? I suppose both to some extent”
You can understand the comparison between the lines. The violence began with a TikTok of young Arabs beating random Jews. The tension did not revolve around the Temple Mount, but was an excuse for Hamas to stir up internal tensions due to the cancellation of the PA elections.
This is not the spirit of the matter and it is not written anywhere. If only because I don't think so. As for the sentences you quoted:
1. Indeed, provocateurs from all sides are entering this vacuum. What is wrong here? Where is there a comparison here? 2. As for the facts from the Jewish and Arab sides, this has nothing to do with the matter at all. I presented there how a narrative is created in every WhatsApp group, without any connection to the question of who is right and who is better than whom. I demonstrated what is happening on both sides, and that it is happening because of the social network. That's all. Where do you see the slightest hint of any comparison here?
3. When I write that both are right to some extent, I immediately explained what they are right about (for some reason you stopped the quote): In that the police are doing nothing. In that, both sides are right. Do you see a comparison here between the groups of rioters?
Again, the emotional reading is getting in our way.
Miki
Instead of arguing here about what you meant and what you didn't mean, please address an explicit question: Beyond blaming (justified) the government vacuum, beyond distinguishing (again justified) about "provocateurs on all sides", do you recognize that since there are, by and large, two hawkish sides, the main problem and blame falls on the Arab side, even if only a small part of that public?
As far as I understand, this is a yes and no question.
Until the Israeli public, especially the Arab (!!!), understands this point, I have difficulty seeing the beginning of dealing with the difficulties.
Pay close attention: I did not put a word in your mouth, but rather posed a question about a certain understanding that Moshe and I had regarding your words.
Instead of arguing and asking the same question over and over again, my answer is: Yes. Where did you see that it wasn't? How did the discussion go there?
1. No Jewish provocateur entered this vacuum just because there was a lack of governance and it was possible for him to harm the Arabs.
Jews (and not just from Yitzhar, but also from Pardes Hanna, Petah Tikva and Ariel, and from anywhere you can imagine) came to protect their brothers from crazed Arabs, and from looting and burning down houses. The video of the burning of the two vehicles that was published under every fresh tree was filmed by a friend of my wife. Her neighbors burned her vehicles, not because she did not pay a house committee, but because she is Jewish, and she published it under cover of darkness, because they went too far and burned down their electrical cabinet. This is the symmetry you have shown with these and those provocateurs. No Jew would have come, if there were not masses of Arabs who are boycotting Jews and their property, and no matter how you turn it around, a hooligan who came because other hooligans he detests are not like the first hooligans.
If you want to insist on health. But you are talking nonsense. It seems that emotions do not allow you to think calmly.
In the meantime, until emotions pass and coolness lends its hand to rational thinking, I would be happy if you could touch on the points where I spoke nonsense.
Isn't the statement that provocateurs from both sides are entering this vacuum a statement that conveys some kind of balance between the parties? It is factually correct. But the statement that murders during the Holocaust were committed by both the Germans and the Jews is also correct (of course without comparisons, because where did you see that I compared)
In the month of September, 2017
To R. Moshe R. – Greetings,
Even with the help of volunteers with good intentions, God forbid, not violent or provocateurs – difficult problems can arise. Especially when it comes to enthusiastic and idealistic young people, there is a fear that their response will not be proportionate and will spill over into harming innocent people, or will lead to escalation.
Dealing with a popular uprising should be done with a combination of ‘stick and carrot’ towards the Arabs, on the one hand a firm response towards the rioters, and on the other hand an attempt to reach dialogue and understanding with the ‘silent majority’ of the Arab population who are interested in continuing the peace so that they too can live and earn a living.
It should be made clear to volunteers that even if their intentions are good and desirable, their actions will only be desirable if they are careful to act in coordination and alignment with representatives of the residents and municipal officials, and through them with the security and rescue forces. Only with full coordination can effective protection and assistance be provided.
Best regards, Yaron Fishel Ordner
In the book of Esau and the Levites' beasts under the beast of burden
It is worth noting that the term "beasts" for people who behave wildly is an unfair insult to beasts, which are animals that have been tamed by man and serve him out of discipline and loyalty.
The loyalty and obedience of beasts to the man who leads them is described many times in the Scriptures, such as "the ox knows its buyer, and the donkey its owner's crib." Beasts are a symbol of innocence, as in the words of David: "I was a wild animal, and I did not know the beasts. I was with you," and as in the prophecy of Isaiah: "The Spirit of the Lord will guide us like a beast."
The sages learned from the living good qualities and traits, such as being careful to steal from an ant and being modest and clean from a cat, and as it is said in the Book of Job: ‘Teach us from the beasts of the earth’. Let us learn from the beasts loyalty and obedience and walk in the furrow.
With the blessing of ‘Kol Tzahala and Rina, our language then chanted’,,
The dog Feybel, known as ‘Feybish Lipa Sosnowitzky-Dehari, the animal lover
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Chazal learned virtues from animals.
Not always. “I will send beasts with them” see Rashi”.
To chaos – Hello,
When the situation reaches chaos, then even the normally disciplined animals start to lash out and bite 🙂
Best regards, Y.P. Ordner
The head of the Lod shooting squad, Yair Revivo, also said that the members of La Familia who are harming innocent Arabs are causing damage and escalation. On the other hand, the Shin Bet has taken action in the mixed cities, to catch rioters and thwart any plans for riots. See the article, Shin Bet operatives in mixed cities (on the Channel 7 website).
Wishing you a peaceful and happy Shabbat and holiday, Yafia Halevi
You answered yourself. Indeed, provocateurs from both sides enter the vacuum. Where did you see a comparison? Alomo and provocateurs, regardless of how many and to what extent. It seems that you still haven't cooled down, otherwise it really doesn't seem too complicated to me to understand. And if there were Jewish murderers in the Holocaust, then it would definitely be correct to say that the German murderers were Jewish murderers, even if there was a big difference between them. Not very complicated.
If the questions don't improve, I won't answer anymore.
That wasn't a question. You write as if the words lack context. When disturbances are mentioned symmetrically everywhere, there is a meaning to the statement that these and those are disturbances, beyond the pure statement. We don't disagree about the post itself (in fact, in the post you wrote at the time about Elor Azaria, we discussed the very act of taking the law into your own hands, and even then I claimed that there is no governance and security in the state's institutions, and therefore I would shoot without thinking twice, just to be sure that the terrorist will not be released from prison in the next prisoner exchange). This may be semantics, but it is important when the tendency is to create distorted symmetry in order to try to change reality.
Moshe
As I said, I agree with most of what you said and the criticism of what Michi said.
But the sentence “Jews came to protect their brothers” doesn’t really give a balanced account of the facts, as far as I can decipher them.
I wonder about the connection you make at the end between the existential uncertainty that humanity knew in society before modern democracy and the fact that everyone was religious at the time (which gives both a sense of meaning and a community framework that has an element of “insurance” against various harms). Doesn’t this also work in a certain way in the opposite direction – that religious organizations and religious politicians work, in action and inaction, to undermine the social closure of modern democracy, both because its values don’t really align with religious traditionalism, and also because undermining it strengthens the spread of religion (and hence their control) among the public. If there is no good public education system, some of the public would prefer to send their child to “the spring,” because there they will also receive a long day of education and a warm lunch. If there is no functioning welfare system, the religious community presents an alternative in the form of the charity system and the orphanages.
A priori it is possible, but factually it really doesn't sound likely to me. Most of the rabbis I know are actually careful to maintain the Dina Demalchuta as the halakhah requires.
I am less focused on actual rebellion or disobedience to the law. More in depth, in terms of the content of education and the professional horizon it provides to graduates of the religious education system, education for hostility and non-solidarity toward other sectors, cooperation with the process of weakening the welfare state and replacing it with sectoralism, and so on.
I don't see any of this, and certainly not the motive you're hanging onto.
The claim of Bibi and his entourage that they are now allowing much stronger force to be used in Lod (batons, rubber bullets, and administrative arrests) to restore calm.
We will see if there will be a change.
I do not fully understand what goal can be set within civil normalization other than “calm” and the same applies to Gaza if no clear solution is offered.
It is certainly possible to set goals. For example, to work towards equality with the Arabs and to increase enforcement against criminals among them and rioters. These are significant domestic policy goals. The goal is supposed to set before us a model of a state to which you aspire and the way to it = action to realize this goal. This has not been done.
I listened to Kalman-Lieberman on Kan Saktim a few hours ago. Their program is from yesterday morning. I got the impression that they made a serious effort to find out the facts. Not a complete picture, but something is waiting, adding knowledge.
https://www.kan.org.il/radio/program.aspx/?progid=1141
I just wanted to make two small points. A. This time the IDF is responding excellently to Hamas. And this is not just another round of missiles, but the beginning of a war. In this matter, Gantz and Bibi are managing to cooperate excellently. B. The absurdity of the Arabs' claims against the State of Israel for not granting shelter to Arabs only grows when one realizes that it was an illegal settlement in the first place and that they were not supposed to be there at all according to the state.
Three more small comments. A. Do you refuse to believe the Arab rioters' shooters even after the court believed them and confirmed their version? After it was revealed *in court* (I don't know how to emphasize) that the investigating officer decided to interrogate only Jews and not Arabs, do you still refuse to believe? (Regarding the Arabs' claims, I personally haven't read the Arab side, but it seems that they don't think that the Jews are walking around like rioters and they are only defending themselves, but rather they have claims against the desecration of Al-Aqsa and the evacuation of people from Sheikh Jarrah. This is the other side's claim according to the responses I see)
B. From what I heard from a relatively active Lod resident, La Familia members are not welcome there and are only looking for violence, compared to the residents of Yitzhar who came to help and were made clear to them that this was not the place to make provocations and cause more violence.
C. The Jews who wanted to show governance and sovereignty were on a street that was entirely Jewish from A to T and sang songs there. Is this something wrong in your opinion? After that, Arabs arrived and tried to beat them up, and the heroic young man defended himself and the other Jews and shot the Arabs.
A. You should take a breath and relax. I didn't write anywhere that I don't believe them.
C. No demonstration by the government justifies riots. I didn't write that either.
Well, as I wrote in my first response to the previous column. When you write about philosophy, Torah and science, you at least seem to understand the subject you are writing about (after all, a rabbi, a doctor of physics, etc.). But when you write journalistic columns, you reveal yourself as a brainwashed, low-minded "beast" - yes, yes, exactly as you describe the "beasts" (be ashamed of that nickname) of the "hilltop youth", the "men of the city", etc. I wrote "as you describe" because here too you are ignorant of the facts (according to your own testimony) or a malicious liar.
The ”animals” (which will never reach their heights in humanity) Yitzhar, Itamar and the other ”animals” settlements lead the country in the rate of animal organ donations, volunteering and donations of all kinds and colors. Itamar Ben-Gvir is a brilliant lawyer with achievements that the greatest lawyers in the country envy, who was honored to save from prison hundreds of innocent people who were harassed by the devil's attorneys and the judges of Sodom. He represented quite a few of them voluntarily. (He himself was acquitted of 46 unfounded indictments by judges who really didn't like him, doesn't that prove systemic persecution?)
I will not analyze here the series of errors, lies and twisted logic that you are spewing here in all directions. (Maybe I'll do it one of the next few days, or maybe not at all. Still, it's hard to write long when you have to run to a protected space every now and then.) But, I quickly skimmed through this embarrassing column (I blushed for you) and found in it a host of slogans and clichés against the government (which certainly deserves criticism, but definitely not your criticism), and one thing stood out in its absence - not even a single word about the real culprit in the situation, namely the rotten, evil, and corrupt legal system of this country. Not a word about the crazy legalization, not a word about the Or Committee, not a word about the rule of the Attorney General and the Attorney General, not a word about the Azaria effect, not a word about the "hands in pockets" procedure that searched the police in its wake. There you go.
It is so twisted, crooked and stupid that at best you are necessarily a brainwashed ignoramus (a useful idiot, Bela”z). At worst, a foreign agent.
All in all, what is happening these days is a miraculous fulfillment of the prophecies of Rabbi Meir Kahane, may God bless him and grant him peace, in his book “Leschim Keinyim” from 1980. The real culprits are the “anti-racists” who allow you and your ilk to call good and faithful Jews “animals”, who slandered them as “racists”, outlawed them and nurtured the Arab cancer within us until it exploded in our faces. If you are not a foreign agent, (as I suspect), then you are just a useful fool in the service of Satan.
Dear Mordechai. Nowhere in this column did I write that the people of Yitzhar are animals. I was careful to use this nickname in relation to La Familia. Just forget it. I wrote that the curses I heard from them were not shameful to a herd of animals. And that is a fact that is in my opinion. All the rest of your words are really not worth considering. It was not for nothing that the starling went to the crow, but because he was appointed.
You should clarify your words in a comment. It's not clear at all. I also understood on first reading that you were calling the people of Yitzhar animals and was horrified to the core of my soul by such a good gesture. So I read it again and with a sigh of relief I realized that you meant what you said here in response. Besides, in war there is no place for self-righteousness towards your brothers (even if they are small and wild brothers. But brothers. This is not nationalist romanticism. It is part of the shared destiny that God sealed at Mount Sinai and that the Zionists absorbed somewhere in the early twentieth century) even if their smell doesn't smell good to you. You can discuss whether they cause more harm (inflaming passions and burning the area) than benefit (deterrence. This is the only language that the Arab savages understand) but there is no place for self-righteousness.
Besides, with regard to the blame of the legal system, things are famous and well-known. Just today I read an article about the frustration of the police who are not allowed to do anything. You can say until tomorrow that it's not worth addressing, but I'm the fourth commenter here who's already written this. So your lack of addressing it seems like a convenient evasion. The impotence in relation to Gaza also stems from such legal fears, only they also come from outside - from the rest of the world that is hostile to us. Sorry for the schadenfreude, but we can't stand against the rest of the world without being united. And the biggest enemy of unity is self-righteousness (everyone turns up their noses at the other because it gives them a sense of superiority).
I don't know who “La Familia” is (although I hear Italian). They explained to me that it is some kind of organization of fans of a Jerusalem soccer team. I am not interested in sports, but I do have suspicions (prejudice?) about the cultural level of fans of mass sports teams in general, and soccer in particular. And yet, would you also call a parallel organization of fans of an Arab soccer team (“Hahamula”) “animals”?
Every time you are caught with your pants down, you rush to cover your nakedness with a tissue and be stunned. But these are your words:
“That is how the Yitzhar rioters and La Familia arrive in Lod and other cities across the country, and anyone who watches them can see that they are enjoying every moment. Anarchy animates them, and they are truly experts and experienced in these situations. The curses that are heard from these righteous people when they come to the aid of God in the heroic deeds of Lod and other places would not shame the last of the animals in the swine pen.
Either you are unaware of what you are writing, or you are simply a liar (and not particularly sophisticated). And further:
“Everyone now sees that these are bipedal beasts by all accounts, and that they have no protection but a knife (again, a long-standing police and government failure”).
A call for murder?
As I said, I blushed for you when I read the column, not only because it is shameful in its rant against your brother, but because it is confused, lacking a message, blatant and on the other hand, stupid and self-righteous. Once again you blame the “corrupt” (a calming mantra for you?) for the annihilation while the real culprits, whom I mentioned in my previous response, do not receive even a polite word of criticism from you. (Is it related to the fact that your son is an intern with them?)
There is nothing new under the sun. When black rioters went wild in US cities, they were suppressed in less than an hour in states under Republican control, and are still going wild in states Progressive “democratic” whose governors responded by … Defund the police. Likewise, our legal system's response to the October 2000 riots was the complete castration of the police and security forces. A proven recipe for establishing civilian militias for self-defense that could easily degenerate into civil war.
As I wrote, what is happening these days is the fulfillment with impressive mathematical precision of the predictions of Rabbi Meir Kahane, may God bless him, in his book “Leshichim Keinyim” which I read about 40 years ago. A priest and prophet walked among us, and the judges of Sodom stained him with lies and falsehoods of ”racism” (according to the law) and outlawed him. Fortunately, I knew him personally, not from the newspapers and commentators like you. He was innocent Racism. A man full of love for humanity and love for Israel and a great man. The first to speak out against the conspiracy of silence of the corrupt and rotten Jewish (Reform) establishment in the US in the face of the plight of the Jews in the USSR, and his heroic struggle led to the enactment of the "Jackson Amendment" to the Constitution. Of course, official historiography (historiography-falsification) has obscured Rabbi Ztsuk's part in this achievement.
The real criminals and racists are the black-robed people who discredited him. The people of the "racism of low expectations" who forgive every Arab crime and detain Jewish girls until the end of the proceedings in illegal mass arrests because of a demonstration, those who invest billions to catch boys suspected of spraying Graffiti and not lifting a finger against criminals who burn synagogues, police stations and MDA stations.
The real racism, as Rabbi Kahane Ztuk once explained to me (and wrote in his aforementioned book), is that of those who see Arabs as an inferior race, who will forget their religion and their religious hatred for the "sons of apes and pigs", "tents of the sea", and colonial invaders, sell us their sacred waqf land and seek to integrate with us in "coexistence" in exchange for connecting their villages to electricity and running water and opening our universities to them. "Racism of low expectations" (or autoanti-Semitism) is demonstrated Forgiveness for Arab riots against Jews “because of provocation” (buying houses with full money!) but demands “restraint” and ”containment” from Jews who are attacked in order to “not to descend to their level”. It is not superfluous to mention the logical fallacy of the low-expectation racists who, on the one hand, “understand” Arabs who are attacked with “uncontrollable rage” because of buying an apartment by a Jew, and on the other hand, believe that this is a “materialistic” conflict over real estate and borders that can be resolved through ”dialogue”. They murder each other (including members of the family The ”prophet”) for 1500 years with continuous and unimaginable cruelty because of Islamic religious fanaticism, but with us they will live in ”coexistence”? Oh, holy innocence.
But who is a “bourgeois” who lives peacefully in the “luxury” neighborhoods; (Aalek) in Lod, feels moral superiority when he writes twice a day “the corrupt ruler”a” (in which after reading both versions of the indictment against him I still have not found a single fact that constitutes guilt…), feels cultural superiority when he calls good Jews “animals”, and intellectual superiority when he dismisses “unworthy” A response to criticism that exposes him in his nakedness. Haunted by feelings of inferiority and a desire for legitimacy from the “whites and the beautiful”, he wants so much to distance himself from any identification with the “beasts” and “racists” of the Kahanists, Rachel, that he is willing to support the establishment of a government based on representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood and the communists (what about ISIS?). Just not Bibi!
(Full disclosure: I never voted for Netanyahu and I have a lot of criticism of him. But he is not corrupt).
Well, that's fine. A good person is convicted, a good person is slandered and a good person is slandered.
PS, you really are not worth a response. But unfortunately you still have a few groupies whose eyes you might be able to open. You still deserve one kind word for not deleting the My comments are here. Chen Chen.
Mordechai, I hope the problem is solved. After reading your insightful words, all my groupies have learned their lesson and are no longer impressed by my nonsense. Good luck.
I will.
I can't believe I'm saying this (oh, a high intellectual like me) but it seems that "Kahana was right." Only I wouldn't start wars with leftists because of this. The price of wars between us is still total destruction by the enemies outside. But first there needs to be peace between the rightists themselves. Then it will be possible to have unity with the left, and before that, let's not even talk about some kind of peace and coexistence with Arabs. Someone who can't live with their own people certainly shouldn't be confused about coexistence with enemies. Even the Arabs know this. They smell internal divisions and go to war. If you, Rabbi Mikhi, are incapable of living with the Sephardic public and wrap it up with "Bibi is corrupt" (it's like reciting the Shema that has to be said twice a day), then what stories do you have to tell us about equality for Arabs?
On the 1st of September, 2017
To Emmanuel – Greetings,
The rocket barrages from the large refugee camp known as the ‘Gaza Strip’ clearly show that even when they are ‘not among us’ – the problem is not solved. There is no escape from reaching coexistence that will be based on ‘carrot and stick’ attacks against riots and terrorism, along with fairness towards the entire Arab population. When the foreigner is aware that with us he enjoys freedom, security and a high standard of living – then most of the Arab population will prefer to sit quietly.
The Arab Pangar and Rabban Yochanan ben Zakkai have already disagreed (in a discussion with Vespasian), according to Pangar, a snake tied to a barrel breaks the barrel with the snake. On the other hand, Rabban believes that the snake is removed and the barrel and the wine are preserved.
Wisdom and restraint should be combined with firmness and strength!
With greetings, Ben-Zion Yochanan Korinaldi-Radetzky
Perhaps a translation into Arabic of ‘Truth and Unstable’ will also help to kill the Arabs 🙂
In the last line
… will help the extreme recession of the Arabs 🙂
On blindness…
“When the foreigner is aware that with us he enjoys freedom, security and a high standard of living – then most of the Arab population would prefer to sit quietly”.
This is exactly the white Ashkenazi racism that Rabbi Kahane warned against. The white Ashkenazi (relax, I too am part of this “race”) sees the Arabs as an inferior race who will sell their homeland, religion and national aspirations to the ”sons of apes and pigs” (The Jews) and will come to terms with the regime of the Jews who, in their arrogance, established a state for them on the holy Waqf land instead of bowing their heads and paying the Jizya (a Muslim poll tax on “tolerable infidels”, Christians and Jews). Only a person who is disconnected, without roots and a homeland would believe that the Arab (and especially the devout Muslim) would agree to this in exchange for “freedom, security and a high standard of living”.
Contrary to the legends of the left, the State of Israel has invested truly legendary sums in the Arab sector. It has built schools for them, connected their settlements (including the illegal ones) to electricity and running water, subsidized their primary, secondary and higher education, and the list goes on. Nowhere in the world has a recalcitrant and hostile minority (who do everything they can to evade every civic duty, including paying taxes) been granted such investment from the state. The Netanyahu government (the corrupt Shalit) has allocated 15 billion shekels (!) for an ambitious plan to invest in the Arab sector, designed in collaboration with representatives of the Joint List.
The simple truth is that the opposite is true, and Pharaoh was right when he said, "The work will be honored over the people." A wise people make sure to keep their enemies illiterate peasants. Only a foolish people educate their enemies. The worst of Israel-haters, the Arabs (for over 100 years) are the most educated of them.
“The white Ashkenazi (relax, I am also part of this “race”) sees Arabs as an inferior race…”
Exactly the opposite, sitting quietly in exchange for a good material situation and personal freedom (including religious freedom, with the exception of the commandment of jihad) is the most appropriate behavior on the part of a minority, and this is how generations of Jews in all countries behaved (even for much less than what Arabs can receive in Israel today) until the Soviet Union and especially the Nazis rendered this strategy ineffective.
If anything, the mistake here is not reverse racism but projecting your way of thinking onto the other side.
All that is rejected in Momo, etc.
Your words remind me of a conversation I had with a senior Shin Bet official sometime in the late 1980s. As a young yeshiva student, I was amazed at the depth of the ignorance, superficiality, and shallowness of those who believe that Arabs and Islam are supposed to be the bread and butter of their religion. This overlap in understanding Islam and the Middle East in general led to the Oslo parade of folly, disengagement, etc. We paid the price in blood (literally).
Indeed, you are projecting the way Jews think onto the Arabs. But they do not see themselves as a minority. They see themselves as the legitimate masters of the land, and us as such. (With protection), sons of apes and pigs are rioting who have established an illegitimate infidel state on the sacred waqf land, instead of bowing their heads and paying the jizya. They really don't think they should thank you for your kindness that allows them to “sit quietly in exchange for a good material condition and personal freedom”. They believe they should fight you for brides to return the stolen waqf land to Islamic rule. For them, “religious freedom, except for the commandment of jihad” is a burning insult. For them, Israel is a modern version of the Crusader state and jihad against it is the supreme religious commandment.
When you assume that they will give up their national and religious aspirations in exchange for the right to “sit quietly” Etc., you actually see them as an inferior race of "natives" lacking religious/national consciousness. This is racism par excellence.
On the 4th of Sivan, 5th of September
To Mordechai, greetings,
Not all Arabs are idealistic zealots who will go and fight the holy war under any conditions and in any situation. The vast majority do indeed follow the advice of “respect the work of the people” and they will prefer the quiet that allows them to continue bringing prey to their home.
Therefore, I wrote that a distinction must be made between the rioters and the instigators and that they must be dealt with firmly in a specific and focused manner, according to the method of Rabban Yochanan ben Zakkai, “taking the snake without breaking the barrel.”
And just as Mordechai the Jew dealt with Haman and the hard core of his sons and supporters in a specific manner, while Harbunah, who abandoned the gang for opportunistic reasons, remains “well remembered.” 🙂 And so Mordechai achieved that many of the peoples of the land would convert to Judaism because the fear of Mordechai fell upon them, and he left a good memory among all the nations of his deeds of strength and his valor and the story of his greatness.
And so did Rabbi Shmuel the governor do to an Arab who cursed him and the king ordered him to cut out his tongue. The governor went and did good to that Arab, and then instead of cursing the Arab began to praise him. And the governor showed the king: I cut off his evil tongue and replaced it with a good tongue.
With blessings, Ben-Zion Yochanan Korinaldi-Radetzky, the White Ashkenazi 69
Although the Midrash Esther Rabbah implies that the statement: ‘And Harbonah is remembered for good’ is the same as saying that Harbonah is Elijah, and not because Harbonah was one of Haman's gang and betrayed him. So ‘Remembered for good’ is not, but there is still room for a distinction between the hard core of the Hamanites and the many Harbonahites with whom one can get along.
Visited, visited
There is something in what you say, but only something.
Indeed, not all Arabs are rioting. The rioters are the rich and the wealthy. Those whose foolishness the State of Israel has often “educated” to pick up from the garbage dumps, give them an education and open the gates of business and the economy to them. The peasants are indeed immersed in “the honor of work”. Make no mistake – they hate you no less than the educated, but their abilities are limited.
This has been the case since the outbreak of the conflict more than a century ago. The chief instigators were the educated Arabs (the first were actually the Christians, graduates of the American University in Beirut, who founded the first Arab newspapers in the Levant and poured out anti-Semitic venom long before the rise of the Nazis in Germany).
I have often encountered good and innocent people who believe that “terrorism is the result of poverty and occupation”. Sorry to spoil the theory, but empiricism simply buryes it. There is extensive research literature on this. Terrorism is a rich man's business.
Another naive theory that many are tempted to believe is that ”education makes a person better”. This is foolishness. Education does not take away a person's free choice, but gives him more options to exercise his choice. Therefore, someone who chose evil will be more likely to be convicted if he is also educated. There is no shortage of examples of evil educated people. Of the four commanders of the ”Einsatzgruppen” (the SS murder squads that murdered about a million and a half Jews by shooting) three had a doctorate, and the fourth held “only” an MA. Also, about half of the participants in the Wannsee Conference were doctors, and to them we can add Yasser Arafat (civil engineer), Pol Pot (electronic engineer), Saddam Hussein (jurist), Professor Guzman (philosopher, founder of the murderous underground "Shining Path"), Dr. Mengele (physician), Professor Hirt (physician), the terrorist Carlos (economist), Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (doctor of electrical engineering), Fathi Shekaki (pediatrician), George Habash (pediatrician) and … Oops, my fingers got tired… but there are many more and worse.
A wise people take care to keep their enemies backward and ignorant!
Regarding R’ Shmuel the Governor – no evidence is provided from the legends.
On the 17th of Sivan, 2017
To Mordechai, greetings,
The educated are the great agitators and instigators, but not necessarily those who will soil their dirty suits with rioting. The rioters are more than the masses, and especially the young who are not yet burdened with the burden of supporting their families.
On the other hand, among the educated are many who are ‘people of the big world’, ‘mobile’ in the words of Gadi Taub, who are much more interested in living a good life and making money. Therefore, among the rich and educated classes, there are many who leave the country.
Even the birth rate is decreasing among the educated and wealthy.
And in any case, the increase in the number of educated is not necessarily the result of deliberate Israeli policy. The Arabs learn from the prevailing trends in the Israeli society in which they live, which strives for a life of well-being and higher education.
Even the academic institutions where they go to study, both in Israel and in Europe and America - tend to have leftist and liberal positions, which encourage the Palestinian struggle. What can we complain about the Arabs. They are simply good students of our academic world.
Perhaps the Arabs should be directed to the Haredi and ultra-Orthodox centers, so that they will devote themselves to the study of the straightening and refining Torah 🙂
With greetings, Yaron Fishel Ordner
A response to Mordechai – who boasts that he is not a scholar of Torah and does not understand philosophy –
Your style does not suit this site. And neither do the ”charges” that you raise.
For example, the charge “You are a brainwashed idiot” – may be a winning charge on other sites. Go there.
When you become the owner of the site, you can kick me out of here. In one of my previous responses, I mentioned Mikhi favorably, who, despite the harsh criticism I leveled at him, did not censor me.
Somehow, intuitively, it was pretty clear that when my heart reached a dead end, it would lead us into chaos like we had never known before. And now it's coming true. I'm just having a hard time understanding the story of the journey. How he managed to roll it out to exactly the point in time he needed.
There is no doubt that Netanyahu will arrange everything with the Arabs.
Like all the other times they said about him (and of course they were wrong) that now he will start a war to achieve … (choose what he wants)
Not only here. Netanyahu is scheduling all the way with the Arabs, who will insist at the last minute and save the situation.
This is what Netanyahu did when the UN decided to establish an Israeli and Palestinian state in the British Mandate territories. Netanyahu tempted the Arabs not to accept the opportunity, to start a war and lose. Netanyahu also tempted the heads of the ‘Arab Supreme Committee’ to suggest that the Arabs of the land leave their homes until the Arab armies eliminate the Jews, and thus Netanyahu created the refugee problem.
This is what Netanyahu did in the Six-Day War, tempting Nasser and Hussein to launch a war of annihilation against Israel, and thus leading Netanyahu to conquer Judea and Samaria, Gaza and Sinai. Netanyahu also put the Egyptian air defense system to sleep, so that the Egyptian air force would be destroyed in two hours.
Netanyahu once again showed his demonic power, when, following Rabin's assassination, the right wing lost its strength and Peres was poised to win the elections. What did Netanyahu do? He lured the terrorist organizations to blow up buses, thus arousing the indignation of the Israeli public that brought the right wing to power.
And so after the rise of Barak, who was ready to offer Arafat almost everything - Netanyahu lured Arafat to insist, thus preventing the establishment of a Palestinian state.
But Netanyahu's demonic tricks began thousands of years before that. In a brilliant maneuver, Netanyahu lured the Egyptians into chasing the Israelites into the sea, and then Netanyahu sent a strong wind that drowned the Egyptians in the sea.
Even when Israel entered the land, Netanyahu brought about the defeat of the Israelites at Ai, as a result of which none of the kings of Canaan reconciled with the Israelites and they all fell to the Israelites.
Even in Shushan the capital when Haman, Ahasuerus' beloved prime minister, stood up for the Jews, Netanyahu lured Haman to come to the king and ask to hang Mordecai just after Ahasuerus read in the Book of Memoirs that Mordecai had saved his life, and thus Netanyahu brought about Haman's downfall.
Even in World War II, Netanyahu lured the Germans to open a second front against the Russians and the Japanese to open a second front against the US, thus bringing about their ultimate downfall through the increased appetite of the victors.
The common denominator of all the events I have described, which can be explained not only by Netanyahu's demonic powers, but also naturally: that the people of evil and hatred cannot have enough, and therefore when they feel that they are 'going their own way', they do not calm down but continue with greater force until they 'jump above their strength'. And they reach their downfall.
And this is exactly what happened in the riots of 1981, Hamas and the Israeli Arabs sensed that a left-wing government was about to be established that would be submissive and convenient to them, but instead of being patient and holding back for a few days, they began to attack with all their might, thus cutting off with their own hands the fulfillment of their desires.
And we conclude with a massive thank you, to Netanyahu the devil, who saves his people from disaster, at the right time 🙂
With blessings, Baal Zevub, High Priest of Demons
You forgot the money transfers to Hamas that were transferred naturally. Until they stopped naturally.
I'm curious to know if the left wouldn't do this. I just hope they weren't paid with our tax money for humanitarian reasons.
To the Lord
Be healthy. You brought a smile to my lips. I have been blessed and become righteous because my work is done by others
May God bless you
Rabbi Michi is politically correct, even if it costs human lives. I was very disappointed in him.
The left that warns of the disintegration of democracy is exactly the same left that, supposedly in the name of humane values, does everything necessary to undermine democracy.
If on Land Day in 2000 the police still knew how to respond (more or less) and used firearms and killed rioters (with sniper bullets and not, as required, with automatic fire), all the righteous leftists came, established a state law and closed the possibility that the police would again act with deadly determination against rioters and rebels.
The impotent right (led by Netanyahu) has done nothing for years to turn the tables and therefore bears responsibility for what is happening here today, no less than the gang of leftist purists.
Regarding your information/facts, whether they are correct or not, I have a clear and simple recommendation to use common sense and certainly not the Israeli media.
Ask yourself since when do Jews start rioting in Arabs on the Day of Judgment or any other day?
Here I am really surprised by the rabbi's respect.
Since when did Arabs need a special reason to kill Jews?
The only thing that usually prevents the killing is a lack of opportunity or a price that is too high.
The same goes for Hezbollah or Hamas, and the same goes for Israeli Arabs.
It is true that there are also incompetent Jews who find an outlet in violence.
But it is almost always a reaction, not an initiative, and so it is this time.
And those who do not trust their minds can still rely on the media, but it would be correct to conclude that what is conveyed there is partial and that the interpretation is always political and intentionally biased to the left.
It sounds like I am joking, but unfortunately it is the reality.
For example, this is how rioters or young people will be described when it comes to Arabs.
This is how they will always try to describe a situation in which both sides are guilty of violence, when it is clear to everyone that this is complete nonsense.
There is no surprise in this either.
I read a post today by someone who has been glued to the screen for several days and only discovered at noon today that an 82-year-old Jew is hospitalized in serious condition after almost burning to death in a hotel in Acre.
Obviously, if there was an Arab who was set on fire by Jews in Lod, he would have heard about it if he wanted to, and even if he didn't.
Arab society is a violent society.
Its violence is directed first and foremost inward.
The number of murders among them increases and increases every year until they themselves are crying to us to stop their violence.
Then they burn down a police station or two. So be it.
In conclusion, violent Arabs, an impotent government and institutions, and we all suffer.
But we should at least understand why this is happening.
For years now there has been no leadership here even at the level of Boy Scout leaders or Bnei Akiva.
I think the assumption that the Israeli media is only biased towards the left is wrong.
First, there are media outlets that are biased towards the right.
Second, when it comes to battles inside the Green Line, it is likely that even left-wing Jews know more Jews who live in Acre/Lod/Jaffa (or Jews who know such Jews) and therefore the flow of rumors through acquaintances may cause them to emphasize the Jewish side.
Regarding the suggestion not to rely on the media but on reason – reason can analyze the facts after discovering them from observation or hearing, etc. It is impossible, for example, to know by reason alone how many Arabs attacked Jews and how many otherwise
Good for you for thinking that way. But you probably don't have eyes in your head. The media is definitely not biased to the left. It is entirely on the left. It is a propaganda tool of the left. When we talk about bias, I have in my mind an image of a tree that is leaning in a crack and its leaves and branches are tilted to one side. A bias to the left means that the trunk is planted in the middle (objective) and the landscape (the branches and leaves) is tilted to the left. In our case - the global media (except for the right-wing media channels that were specifically set up as a counter to them) is all planted far to the left.
This can't be true. The media belongs to the rich. The rich are anti-communist.
Since the right-wing revolution, the media has been using the technique of “The media is coming down on X, the media is hated, therefore X is good.” And so all sorts of junta proxies like Bibi and all the rest continue to be elected.
And the public is stupid, so the public pays.
(To this day) Hello,
The left-wing parties, such as Mapai, the Labor Party, Mapam, etc., used to be socialist. Today, most leftists are capitalists (except for Shelly Yachimovitz and a few others who still advocate a socialist economy and a welfare state, etc.).
Today's leftists are characterized by a tendency to make sweeping concessions for the sake of peace with the Palestinians, and a tendency to increase the secularization of the State of Israel and opposition to religiosity. The right tends more toward nationalism and tradition, while the leftists Strive to be ‘people of the big world’.
Best regards, Sh”C, graduate of ‘Merkaz’
“People are not appointed over the public according to whom everything will come and go, unless they are complete, wise, and extremely faithful people, and they know everything, and know how to understand and sometimes what to bring near and what to put away, what to keep and what to throw away… and without any doubt, Maimonides”s words in Keila Rava (Bap”a, Mihalchot Melachim 57) say that anyone who does not have the fear of God, despite his great wisdom, is not appointed to his rank among those appointed in Israel… and why so? Because public and political leadership among the House of Israel is connected like a flame to an ember with Torah leadership, and therefore the beginning of the wisdom of leadership is the fear of God. And that is why it was always accepted among the people as the first wise man that only a righteous ruler who rules in the fear of God could stand at the head of the leadership, and someone who is not a righteous man was not asked to be involved in public affairs at all (see HaEmek Devar 10-12).
“A leader who is appointed over the public must know that he is not receiving authority over them, but rather servitude to serve the public, to shepherd them with wisdom and understanding in the fear of God with truth and a whole heart, to strive for their well-being and to fill their shortcomings, to strengthen the poor and the fallen and to take their rights from the hands of their oppressors, to lead the people in justice, to guide them on the straight path, and to remove from them distorted opinions.”
“Habranal in P’ Judges and S. Shmuel Baveru, in his system of preference for the rule of many leaders over the rule of a king, also prefers, in the course of his system, leadership elections for a specific and short period over the election of an indefinite or long leadership, and his reasoning with him: that their leaderships should be from year to year or from year to year, for two years or less, and when the turn of other judges and police officers comes, they will stand up in their place and investigate whether the first ones have transgressed in their faith, and whoever is convicted will pay for all that the convicted person has done, and since their leaderships are temporary and they are destined to give judgment after a few days, there will be fear of flesh and blood over them. Thus has the custom been established in our days to elect a specific leadership.
“According to what has been said that the conditions of the public are useful for limiting the term of appointment, we learn in the raids that other conditions of the public with the elected officials that the voters or the committee of voters' representatives stipulate at the time of agreeing to their electorate as their representatives are also useful, and then when it becomes clear that the elected officials have violated the conditions stipulated, the voters can legally demand the transfer of the elected officials even during their term of office and appoint others in their place”.
(Tsitz Eliezer, Laws of the State, Part 3)
Let the wise listen and Joseph learn!
Good luck, things are just a joke. Just a few comments.
You are presenting the residents of Yitzhar here, the people who love anarchy and chaos and that is why they come to Lod, for another exciting battle scene, moreover, you dare to call them animals or savages. And I ask how do you know? Maybe they really come only for mutual security, how do you know what their agenda is in general, I don't remember you writing that you had an in-depth conversation with one of the residents of Yitzhar and found out what his method was. In any case, I don't mean that you are wrong, but I really don't know and it seems that you are not that much either, maybe you are fed by media stigmas and that is exactly what you tried to go against in this column.
In addition, it is also appropriate to make the distinction between an Arab revolt and arasis who are enthusiastic about beatings and who will not harm their honor, but I saw that this was already discussed above.
If you saw the comments above, you probably noticed that I didn't call the people of Yitzhar animals anywhere. Although emotional readers for some reason are caught up in this matter.
Since I live here and meet the people on the streets, I speak from personal impressions and not, like you, general information and WhatsApp rumors. In addition, if you read my words, you probably saw that I wrote that I believe that good intentions are also involved, and yet I forgive good. My words, of course, were not about all the thousands of volunteers who come, especially those who started coming yesterday, among whom are quite a few good people and not just Cowboys and La Familia as was the case on the first and second nights.
By the way, regarding your assertion that I am wrong or that I don't know, it is really fascinating. Unlike me, who met the people and will speak personal information (but of course speak without information), you haven't met them (probably) and certainly not me. It's interesting that you don't really pay attention to solid information before you make statements.
That's not what I wrote, I wrote that I don't mean you're wrong, but that there is a quick judgment here of the company's motives from the statement without sufficient arguments and reasons why you think they benefit from the mess. Therefore, my statement is not fascinating, because I didn't write that you're wrong and you didn't show why you know what their agenda is. Thanks for the answer anyway 🙂
If the Torah core was not in Lod, wouldn't the situation be even better?
Do you really see a fundamental difference between a quiet and submissive takeover and a takeover with noise?
If "noise" means beatings or throwing stones, etc., then there is indeed a profound difference between taking over by buying houses or buying land and building houses and taking over by simple (physical) violence.
This is not an abysmal difference at all.
Income disparities are also a form of violence, as any attempt to resolve the issue will result in immediate and unbridled violence.
Every Dalit is a man.
A small comment on your comment [1] - From what I heard (from the principal of the school where Nadine Awad studied). It's not that people are complaining to the state that they didn't build a protected space for them, but that they didn't give them permission to build, they wanted to build it themselves. That's very problematic.
Your comment on the matter is also very problematic (I don't know if it was sarcastic or not). It's impossible for the state to discriminate against its citizens just because of their ethnicity or their opinions. Yes, they should be allowed to protect themselves like any other citizen in this country, and if the state provides any protection, every citizen, no matter who he is, is subject to that protection.
“And the alien who resides among you…”
My comment was definitely cynical. I oppose all discrimination, and certainly against Arabs. In my words, I wanted to demonstrate a phenomenon that is certainly a true phenomenon, that Arabs complain instead of cooperating and taking action. Populations in difficulties who do not act on their own and wait for their problems to be solved usually do not receive this (for example, Palestinians). Arabs who cooperate with those who bomb us should not be surprised that they receive (unjustified) discrimination. If they think that their actions these days will improve their situation, they are wrong. It only reduces the motivation to help them (as it should have been done).
Regarding the case with the shelters, I have no information. I wrote that I heard a story and brought it up for illustration only. It is certainly possible that you are right. But the fundamental argument remains the same: As long as the Arabs are content with wailing about deprivation and violent terrorism instead of taking action and starting to cooperate, their problems will remain. And as long as there are no ones to hold them to account but only to contain them and explain that they deserve all the rights (which is completely true), this will only perpetuate their problems. They have already spoken more than once about the racism of low demands.
Rabbi, how did the night go? Has there been any improvement since Ohana's failed speech?
I haven't heard about Ohana's failed speech (was the speech a failure or did Ohana fail?). But since last night I feel a little improvement and hope it will continue. Not least thanks to the many volunteers (at least since yesterday I have the impression that a large number of them are good people, and not like those I described in the column who arrived on the first and second nights, who apparently understood that S”s are not welcome here in ”h) who came to help here, and the organization of the nucleus, which seems to me excellent and very effective. We do shifts and even get some cooperation from the police (if only to waive the curfew with respect to us). The shifts are intended to show presence and report on events, but no less to monitor and moderate those wild groups of our ”helpers”.
We'll see how it goes tonight. The situation here is very strange. During the day you see a normal city, shopping, preparations for Shabbat, and so on, and at night there's a sudden change of phase. Just like in the movies.
I didn't think that a rabbi in Israel would give in to political correctness even at the cost of turning precious Jews under attack into murderers! How alienated there is! Everything so that God forbid they wouldn't suspect you of being a right-wing and primitive man even when Arab murderers are slaughtering us.
No wonder your sons have left the path of the Torah, take off your kippah already, you are shallow and superficial and arrogant towards your brother, shame on you!
You need to remember:
A. He lives in Lod and experienced things personally.
B. He wrote several columns against the PC so it's unlikely he'll suddenly think like them.
C. He didn't call Jews murderers, he called fans of a football team aggressors who enjoy beating up animals.
Hello Rabbi, what is the daily situation in the city?
Was your house hit by gunfire?
Did the police start doing anything?
It has improved a lot. It seems a little, but you can't really build on them. Our house was not damaged, and there was almost no shooting here. Things look more serious from a distance. The Arabs did not act in a very extreme way, otherwise the situation would have been much worse. I believe that the peace was achieved more thanks to the residents and volunteers than to the police. Maybe the Shin Bet? I don't know if and how much they acted.
If there is any ambiguity regarding the facts, here is a description by Kalman Libeskind of the shooting that occurred on the first day of the riots:
https://www.maariv.co.il/journalists/Article-840519
Unfortunately, the column suffers from the ’drama instead of facts’ syndrome. Israel on the verge of disintegration? Really? In the US, weren't there much more serious riots not long ago? Antifa? The break-in to the Capitol?
In addition, saying that we don't know anything until we have fully investigated the facts is always possible, and this is a well-known means of silencing.
And after all this, the clear factual situation is that the Arab side is the violent side and the Jewish side is the defensive side. This fact should become clear to everyone at some point in life, and from that point on it should become an axiom in every political-security-state question in Israel.
Is the idea that the US is about to break up so far-fetched?
It is likely that neither the US nor Israel will break up in the next 20 years (excluding things like one country withdrawing from the US, etc.), but it is certainly an option.
You are intelligent on another level.
A thorough analysis of all sides, while addressing all levels. (At least that I could think of)
Amazing. I'm interested in how in a relatively long text, you're not afraid that you'll accidentally find contradictions? (After all, we're all human - maybe that's the reason..)
By the way, I don't know if you gleaned some of the reasons behind Hamas's behavior from other places, I assume you did (at least some).
Nevertheless, the content presented (in section 7, mainly) reminds me of some of the content presented in the post that Yair Lapid published today. (More accurately, his post reminds me of your words.)
I'm interested in whether there are politicians in general who tend to glean ideas from your publications or the publications of others (directly or indirectly). Especially if they stand on the opposite side of the political map (in relation to the author of the text).
Thanks for the (somewhat exaggerated) compliments.
I have no idea if anyone is using my materials. I was not informed about this. But I highly doubt if any of the celebrities read materials here on the site.
1. The rabbi said that the “bourgeois people in Lod don’t know how to handle such situations. They are accountants and lawyers who live in their comfortable homes, and are not used to street fights and riots.” Therefore, it is convenient for them to hand over the task to the Yitzharist gangs and be led by them. The truth is that after the first night, the residents banded together and established a team that skillfully handled urgent cases and tried to communicate with the police.
2. What I heard from someone who was responsible for security during the riots confirms the legends that the police were waiting to protect the Yitzharniks and the residents. I don’t know about the other rumors.
I think I mentioned that I was an active participant in the vigils that were organized here. So I am quite up to date on what happened in Lod.
These legends also reached me. One thing is clear, that the Israel Police were completely dysfunctional, even more than their usual dysfunction. But from here to these descriptions there is a distance, as is the case with urban legends that rely on one or two cases, if any, and build a description and a general picture from them.