A Look at the Jerusalem Day Parades + One Sane Parade (Column 566)
With God’s help
Disclaimer: This post was translated from Hebrew using AI (ChatGPT 5 Thinking), so there may be inaccuracies or nuances lost. If something seems unclear, please refer to the Hebrew original or contact us for clarification.
Dedicated to my dear wife, Daphna,
who warned about similar phenomena in Lod.
Well, no choice since Jerusalem Day is about to pass. So here’s another short and dense current-affairs column.
Today I heard a radio interview with my childhood friend, Yehudit Oppenheimer, CEO of the left-wing NGO ‘Ir Amim‘. Yehudit is a graduate of the Kfar Pines Ulpana and was a counselor with me in the Bnei Akiva branch we established in Karkur. I haven’t been in touch with her for many years, and from the interview I gathered that she has since moved away from those worldviews. She spoke there about the Flag Parade/Dance, describing it as an ongoing, repulsive fascist event. In similar cases I would have dismissed such statements out of hand and chalked them up to a typical left-wing sensitivity, but upon hearing her words this time I actually didn’t think so, for reasons I’ll detail shortly.
Three Traumas
In the wake of her remarks, I recalled a trauma I myself experienced at such a flag dance. At the same time, I also remembered other traumatic events I’ve experienced over the course of my not-so-short life, and altogether I recalled three.
The first was on a clear night in the middle of the rollicking 1970s, when I was still a high school student (at the Midrashiya). We joined a very long convoy of cars on the way to settle in Nabi Salah (later, Neve Tzuf). Leading us was none other than the legendary Meir Har-Zion with a few of his friends from the Jordan Valley, and they led a convoy of hundreds of civilian cars at night along dirt roads in the hills without lights, while the police and the army filled the area with checkpoints. Unbelievable, but just like in legends we managed to move without lights for many kilometers along dirt paths on barren rocky hills, until we came upon a military checkpoint manned by a few immigrant recruits with their squad commander. The moment it became clear they didn’t intend to let us pass, Meir Har-Zion and his comrades didn’t hesitate for a second, simply got out of the vehicle, pushed them aside, and moved all of us through the checkpoint. As a kid this left an indelible traumatic mark on me—how could we do this to our own soldiers. Years later I thought maybe it wasn’t quite that awful, but from my perspective back then it certainly left a trauma I remember well to this day.
The second event was a few years later, when I was a student at Yeshivat Har Etzion. On the movement’s annual Shabbat Irgun that year, I was sent to proudly serve as the national Bnei Akiva leadership’s emissary in Moshav Avivim on the Lebanese border (not many years after the massacre of its children). That Shabbat will never leave my memory. I encountered staggering backwardness the likes of which I had never known and would not have believed could be found in the Holy Land in the twentieth century. It was a truly dispiriting Shabbat, where it was impossible to speak with anyone except a few children, while outside the moshav’s youths—army veterans with high-schoolers—systematically smashed the branch’s windows. I heard shocking stories about the day-to-day conduct toward the National Service volunteers there, by parents and students, and I was truly horrified. Again, I was very young and not very familiar with worlds other than my own (though over the years I was active in various communities and towns such as Or Akiva, Karkur, and more), and perhaps the trauma was exaggerated (though I suspect not by much).
The third event was when I was already an adult, so I don’t think that trauma was due to my youth. At that time I proudly served as a ram (rabbinic lecturer) at the Hesder Yeshiva in Yeruham (about twenty-five years ago), and I traveled with students and faculty of the Yeruham yeshiva to the flag parade on Jerusalem Day. As a child I participated in the dances that set out from Merkaz HaRav to the Western Wall throughout the night, and I remember that as a rather tiring event but not very harmful—lighthearted, playful nationalism to gladden the hearts of youth. In contrast, the flag parade I’m talking about was truly shocking. A horrifying fascist event, where the air was charged with fascist tension. The flags served there to demonstrate violent sovereignty; the singing and the atmosphere left no room for interpretations. Since then I haven’t been to these events again, and likely will not be. But the testimonies I hear speak of an escalation of the rampant ultra-nationalism there, and in light of my experiences above I can quite believe it.
I don’t think I’m especially sensitive. I’m also not a leftist, and at the time I was even less so than today. I have no problem with the occupation (though I’m willing to compromise on it if there’s a security benefit). I’m entirely in favor of using great force when necessary against rioting Arabs and terrorists, and I’m outraged by the indulgence and tolerance of the government and the army toward the actions of Israeli Arabs and of course also Palestinians from outside (Gaza and Judea & Samaria). But regardless of all that, and certainly not due to left-wing sensitivity, I can say it was simply a horrific experience. I couldn’t help recalling stories about nationalist parades elsewhere that I won’t mention so as not to anger my readers further (to be honest, even back then I noticed certain trends—like Yair Golan). I’ve written here in the past that I have similar feelings when I see an Israeli flag in a synagogue, especially when dancing with it there in ecstasy. This ultra-nationalism that sanctifies mundane matters and injects religious ecstasies into them repels and worries me greatly.
Back to Yehudit Oppenheimer’s words. She described chants of “May your village burn,” “Muhammad is dead,” and other poetic gems, all of it done over the heads of Arabs in the neighborhoods where they live (in the Muslim Quarter) with Israeli flags waved to poke out their eyes, along with harassment and damage to shops and shoppers—things that led the police in later years to ban opening stores and to bar Arabs from entering the “dance” areas. Again, had I not had that experience myself I’d have dismissed this description as left-wing exaggeration. But in light of the above, I don’t think that’s the case.
What’s wrong with it?
You might say: What’s wrong with it? People are expressing their national pride, and if the Arabs are hurt by it, they can lump it. They want to destroy us and aren’t loyal to the state, so why should I be sensitive toward them. Turning the other cheek is Christian policy. We have a different tradition.
I already told you I’m not a leftist. I fully agree with this description of the Arabs. I don’t accept the claims made in the name of political correctness that most Arabs want peace, aren’t terrorists, and are just seeking quiet lives. And certainly not the claims that their actions are done because of us and our fault. In my view the claims that most want good lives and aren’t terrorists are factually correct but irrelevant. As a collective they do want to destroy us. As a collective, most of them are hostile to the state and its Jewish citizens. As I understand it, their (so-called) national identity is built mainly on that desire to destroy us. Beyond that they don’t have many additional shared features, and it’s no wonder that this identity was forged mainly after we arrived here and posed for them this unifying challenge (to destroy us). If so, it’s easy to understand the impulse to demonstrate before them our national pride and our (non-existent) conquest and sovereignty in Jerusalem. Moreover, I think these demonstrations are directed at the Arabs but aimed primarily inward, as a protest against the lack of Israeli sovereignty and governance in Jerusalem.
If it were a demonstration that explicitly bore those matters on its banner, I’d keep quiet. But those are deep motives. On the surface, this parade is a repulsive outburst of ultra-nationalism. My problem is not only the harm to Arabs (which to me is tactically wrong and humanly repugnant), but what it does to—and expresses about—our own souls. An ultra-nationalist frenzy is ugly herd behavior, regardless of whether and whom it harms. I’m not willing to belong to a rampaging herd, not even for the sake of creating identity and confidence in the rightness of our path. That is a human abyss I’m unwilling to descend into. The rampaging in other fascist parades was deplorable not only because of its outcomes. It was itself vile and bestial. When you see a mob running wild, especially around nationalist ideas, you meet the lowest strata of ourselves as human beings. Therefore, irrespective of what might come of it and whom it harms, it’s a problematic event one should not participate in or identify with.
Outbreaks in the style of La Familia—even if one can understand where they come from and what they express—are concentrated, unadulterated brutishness. Therefore, even if one sympathizes with the frustration that leads to them, it’s not right to lend them a hand. Yehudit described rabbis and educators marching with their students and none of them rebuking the ugly songs and the fascist rampage. This isn’t unique to the hardal public, though it has a very troubling influence in religious-education institutions. Joining that stream are also students and educators who aren’t hardal. Ultra-nationalism is a chronic illness in the religious-Zionist world; its origins may be pure and its aim laudable, but its manifestations are ugly and bestial. The frustration of lacking sovereignty for thousands of years, the abuse we absorbed from the gentiles, the ceaseless harassment by the Arabs, etc., may provide a psychological explanation for the phenomenon—but certainly not a justification.
The line between repulsive, bestial ultra-nationalism and a more delicate national pride is very thin. Unfortunately, because of the difficulty in making that distinction, every statement like mine here is labeled as leftism and anti-Zionism, and that’s precisely what has caused this parade to become a parade of the religious-Zionist sector while the rest of the public keeps away. On the religious right they’re willing to swallow this rampaging ultra-nationalism in order to achieve national pride and a Zionist identity, and on the left (mainly secular) they’re unwilling to adopt even national pride and the proper attitude toward rioters and Arabs, so as to avoid the opposite sin and arrive at ultra-nationalism. What’s sorely lacking is the sane pole between these two extremes—one that is prepared to cultivate national pride and decisive actions to realize governance and sovereignty, but not repulsive, ugly ultra-nationalist demonstrations in the style of the Flag Parade.
Broadening the issue
This phenomenon forms the backdrop to what has been unfolding before our eyes in recent months, where the desire to produce a right-religious-national government is bringing that side to an unjustified, unrestrained rampage on all fronts. The entire religious and rabbinic leadership is prepared to swallow all the frogs—like a corrupt prime minister and ministers, unrestrained budget transfers for harmful purposes, heavy-handed, unjustified legislation—all in the name of the lofty goals of tradition, Judaism (so-called), right-wing policies, and security, etc. (most of which, of course, are not achieved). Thus is created a desecration of God’s name on a level unseen since the creation of the world. Today, in the eyes of the world, religious Judaism is synonymous with racism, corruption, and brute force. Note that this encompasses all shades of institutional religiosity: Haredim and religious-Zionists, Lithuanians, Hasidim, and Sephardim. All these are willing for Judaism to become a byword for corruption and brute force and every moral evil—and with ample justification.
Opposite stands the other pole (called here “the left,” wrongfully), which, in order to oppose the brutish, unrestrained conduct of the coalition, also opposes Judaism and tradition (everything is “religionization,” and every government action is a disaster). They’re trying to reclaim the Israeli flag because they understand that until now they’ve thrown out the baby with the bathwater, and that’s already a good start toward sane conduct. But in the meantime, in most cases, again and again both sides compromise with highly problematic behaviors just to avoid complexity.
But life isn’t a guava. It is complex. One can uphold the value of nationalism without ultra-nationalism. And conversely, one can oppose religious coercion without opposing Judaism and without viewing every legitimate step as coercion, “religionization,” and exclusion (I’m already tired of hearing the empty, demagogic sermons that again and again debase these concepts). In the previous column I noted that almost every issue in our lives is complex, and we must accustom ourselves to treat it that way. One can hold any well-reasoned position without enslaving all arguments and discussions to the coveted end goal. It is possible to act rationally and still hold to what we deem the correct bottom line.
The Sane Parade
Yoaz Hendel spoke in that program before Yehudit Oppenheimer. In my terms, one could say that in his remarks he pointed out that Jerusalem Day itself suffers from the polarization I’ve described here. He focused on the religious layer, and I’m adding here the ultra-nationalist layer (I assume he agrees with this too, but isn’t comfortable saying so openly). Those who participate in today’s Flag Parade are only those who belong to the rampaging ultra-nationalist and religious pole. Others keep away from Jerusalem and its parades, since they have acquired a very problematic tinge. Thus needless polarization has formed around a subject that could have been consensual.
To his credit I must say that Yoaz Hendel has quite a few initiatives in these praiseworthy, sane directions: he founded a right-wing organization that monitors the moral conduct of IDF soldiers at checkpoints; he organized demonstrations from the right against the extreme reform but in favor of a reasonable reform; and more. Truly a positive person who acts in the right directions and against the foolish dichotomies that have arisen here, apparently at the encouragement of interested parties (as if morality or opposition to the reform belong to leftists and secular people). Kudos to him.
For our purposes, Hendel announced that he is organizing a Jerusalem Day parade like in the distant past (see a report here). It’s not necessarily a religious event, without separation between men and women, and I would add what he didn’t say: that it’s meant to be an event where even people who don’t feel comfortable with the ultra-nationalist rampage but do feel comfortable with national pride and a connection to Jerusalem will also feel at home. An event whose focus won’t be rampage, harassment, and poking everyone’s eyes, but expressing joy over the city’s liberation. It sets out this evening from the Liberty Bell Park parking lot at 17:45.
Full disclosure: I don’t think I’ll participate in this parade, since ceremonies—especially national ones—don’t do it for me. It seems like a kids’ thing, and I don’t like anything that smells of herd behavior (nationalism somehow usually smells like that). I also don’t like the pathos of ceremonies and the grand speeches about Jerusalem—“we will never forget,” “and forever it will never be divided,” etc. etc. But I have nothing against it in principle. Whoever this speaks to (nobody’s perfect)—certainly those weighing joining the foolish parade of ultra-nationalist rampage—are invited to join Yoaz Hendel. My hand, too, will be with him. From afar…
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Do you have any conclusions about your political worldview from this? If you hadn't had that experience, you would have rejected this description as "leftist exaggeration"? Could there be other issues that you don't know about that leftists don't exaggerate?
It certainly could be. For now, I have no conclusions about my worldview. In my sins, I tend to draw conclusions from arguments, reasons, and facts.
I define myself as a fair Zionist (like Luba Eliav at the time) or as a left-wing security expert (like an active Iraqi at the time).
The economic and social worldview is less important here, but I am an American liberal or a northern European social democrat. The government has an important role in providing good services for all, and in controlling the media and the law - but it is advisable to avoid production facilities that the private market is good at.
I am happy about the writer's repentance, even though it is partial - it is a pity there are not many like him….
The author's incidental comment indicates the partisan attitude of a large minority among the Jews in Israel.
In an extensive survey regarding the decisions of the government of the state, 13% defined the decision to enter Oslo as excellent and another 20% defined it as good... despite the poisonous propaganda that broad right-wing circles are sowing against it.
I think life is a guava.
Wow!
Agree with every word.
Almost – It is impossible to explain bestial behavior in two thousand years of history.
Those who are being shamed are being shamed in their own name – not in the name of Israel.
I have been to the event many times, I have not seen what you describe, and even if the phenomenon exists, it is on the not-so-wide margins. The La Familia organization that Rabbi Michi is talking about is not at all related to the event, perhaps they are affiliated with it at most…
I agree, most people don't get along at all. There are certain days of the year when they overdo certain things, so it's possible that the heart overflows excessively, and what's more, there are bigger troubles. Also, rabbis actually warn against provocative and bestial marchers, here is Rabbi Aviner from a few days ago https://www.srugim.co.il/792709-%D7%9E%D7%A6%D7%A2%D7%93-%D7%93%D7%92%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%95%D7%9C%D7%90-%D7%9E%D7%A6%D7%A2%D7%93-%D7%9E%D7%92%D7%A2%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%94%D7%A8%D7%91-%D7%A9%D7%9C%D7%9E%D7%94-%D7%90
Dear Rabbi Mikhi.
Sorry if my response comes off as a deviation from the discussion.
Because I find it completely related to it.
Like you. I am not a leftist either and I have no special affection for people who would be happy to make meatballs out of me.
But if we were talking about nationalism and the combination between it and religion - your text is, in my humble opinion. Like many other Tzvi scholars, a bit naive - what do I mean when I say naive?
After all, you have written more than once and twice about the need for modern orthodoxy - all Judaism is thin - or in more precise words about the combination between religious intuition and common sense, and not this time and not twice did you also testify that the majority of our public, both religious and secular - is not there but is in other areas of either religious fumandalism
or religious apologetics (from the wording of Benjamin Law and his ilk) - and as is the attitude towards secular studies. General cultural consumption. The belief of the sages. The denial of all kinds of ancestors and magic - is quite folkloristic in the general public, as is the attitude towards nationalism.
After all, in it we ask ourselves. From what sources can an average Israeli person, who fears God, already draw his attitude towards different cultures? On the truth and almost no one heard.
As a teenager, the atmosphere of nationalism that seemed excessive to him. And then he thought that as a God-fearing person he should hold on to the wisdom of the sages. - I tried then with great desperation to dig through all the Jewish-religious literature and find in it the stump of a single bridge that would allow me to look at the world around me in a slightly more balanced way –
I did not find a single such source.
The Apologetics of my son Lau did not convince me. And so did Rabbi Aharon Lichtenstein, Rabbi Solbeitzik, and Rabbi Amital, who came from abroad and from a more Lithuanian world - I felt that with all their greatness and the intellectual and Torah integrity they possess - when it comes to the issue of relations with other cultures and nationalities - they bring half a sentence from their hearts and do not complete it.
So I went to the sources:
With the first ones, I did not find any possibility of seeing the foreign world through them in a more balanced way - here and there one could see them with extraordinary intellectual integrity mentioning and standing behind the Mishnah Hochma Begoim Ta'imin - praising this and that sheikh for his contribution to mathematics, medicine, and science. But they do not move even a millimeter from the general line - the people of Israel is the main thing. And those who accompany it, who are the righteous. They also deserve praise. But the rest of the cultures around them? Impurity, wickedness, and utter fraud. Donkey flesh in their flesh. And their hope for peace. Not, God forbid, by bringing Esau and Jacob closer together. But by forcing the Messiah King to make his kingdom - it will be in the form of a female surrounding a male - just as the Jews are now under the servitude of the sheikh. In the future, the sheikh will serve and be the woodcutters of the children of Israel - slaves who are slaves. Woodcutters and water carriers - this is the full potential and ideal that wise men of blessed memory saw in human cultures throughout history.
There is nothing to talk about Hasidism and Kabbalah at all - there, even a wise doctor, philosopher or mathematician is mentioned only in the study of the words, may his name and memory be erased. And even the Righteous Among the Nations and the Righteous Gentiles. They are souls from a despicable and dirty source that God forbid the children of Israel forget where they come from. That is, God forbid, to show a certain emotional affection towards a righteous Gentile or a resident alien beyond the decree of Scripture.
So the average Haredi, even though he adheres to the fact that the people of Israel are not like all other peoples and that our faith is not a nation but rather its Torah, will certainly reach extreme nationalism. Even if he does not call it nationalism. And even if he does not connect it to the Torah of the complete Land of Israel. And not necessarily because he sees his secular or religious brothers as equal to him or with the potential to be equal to him - but because all other people are in his eyes disgusting like mice or disgusting gooks.
Rabbi Kook and his son are righteous men, may God bless them. They were not clear on this issue and left their public with writings that can be taken here and there. (Or perhaps as the old and veteran students of those rabbis try to say - they tried to instill in their students the possibility of being both nationalistic in every way, and also noble-minded and loving just a simple person from the ranks - a ally and who are not - of course - the general public has absorbed, and with complete logical right, only the dominionistic part that they taught).
I will ask you simply: Do you really think there is something to expect. And perhaps even a right to expect from a public that lives only among Jews. And who are not ally and who are mostly enemies - and in light of the sources - to be non-nationalistic. And on the other hand not to be dragged into superficial complacency?
Maybe in old age
Yes, you can expect that. Among other things, I try to act in these directions, which is why I write these things.
“Those who participate in the flag parade today are only those who belong to the rampant nationalist and religious pole”
Such an offensive claim needs substantiation and evidence beyond your one-time visit decades ago to the flag parade and a quote from Yehudit Oppenheimer, who is a member.
From my experience and opinion (and my evidence is not much better than yours) this is a gross generalization that does not represent the majority of participants.
Indeed, I agree. The wording of this sentence is exaggerated. It's a wind that blows there, but it's not true that all the participants are like that.
I participate in the parade every year and must protest the bad name that is being given here. The vast majority of the groups sing beautiful and good songs and of course are happy about the conquest of the city. It's a shame that you are caught up in the videos that go online that blacken so many good people.
You try so hard to say that you are not a leftist, but I must say that a significant portion of those who vote for leftist parties completely agree with everything you wrote here.
The majority think that we should fight the Arabs
The main motive for achieving peace is our interest, not occupation
Etc. etc.
The division of right and left is no longer relevant, but rather a division of fanatics and liberals
This is exactly the point, and I'm glad you understood it, there's just a problem with your logic. Just because leftists agree with what I'm saying doesn't mean it's leftist. I assume they also agree that 2 plus 3 equals 5, that Biden is the president of the United States, and that murder and theft are forbidden. The claims here are in no way related to the left.
Beyond that, I recognize a serious problem in understanding what was read (probably out of anger). I didn't write that there was a problem with the occupation. On the contrary, I wrote that I don't have a problem with the occupation. I didn't write that there was no need to fight the Arabs, but the opposite. But apparently what I wrote has nothing to do with what you read. A person reads from the musings of his heart.
I completely agree with your last comment. I just don't understand how it fits with the things up to it.
No. This is a division of maybe fanatics on one side – the right. And other fanatics of another religion – the left (and those who flatter them). There is nothing liberal about the left. It has its own religion that is even more stupid and its believers are the most devout in the world in their religion.
Response to Rabbi Yehoshua Inbal (whose wife passed away today at the age of 46) not upon us, may God heal their pain and comfort them.
The response is about the second volume of the trilogy:
https://rationalbelief.org.il/%d7%94%d7%90%d7%9e%d7%a0%d7%9d-%d7%90%d7%99%d7%91%d7%93%d7%a0%d7%95-%d7%a9%d7%9c%d7%99%d7%98%d7%94-%d7%a2%d7%9c-%d7%94%d7%a8%d7%95%d7%97/
Yehoshua Inbal VS Mikhi Avraham
Apologetics in the Pasture
What is the use of straw in the wilderness?
What self-righteousness. The most savage and bestial I saw were the demonstrators from the left who also lacked self-awareness of it. I personally have no complaints against the government for all the things described here because I simply don't care anymore. People under a dictatorial rule of stupid, pure savages - that is, the leftist state officials and the left that are concerned with preserving this situation. There is no gentleness and humanity on the left. Just as the Germans did not have it in the Holocaust. From the left's perspective, we do not exist at all. We are not human beings to them, so there is no blasphemy here. And the concept of blasphemy in the eyes of the Gentiles no longer has any value because they themselves are inhuman savages. The East in practice and the West in its hypocrisy and under the guise of a suit, tie and elegant shoes. Last time, it erupted in hatred of the Jews in the Holocaust, when the most civilized nation behaved with the greatest inhumanity, and nothing has changed in practice to this day. If people make affirmative action for their enemies at the expense of their brothers, they don't care if they rob them of this money for the benefit of sectoral needs.
The problem is that you have friends from their left. You think, as a classic national religious with inferiority complex, that you need to provide them with explanations. I also have relatives (adults. uncles and aunts) who are so frivolous that when they stay with me, they obviously can't keep their mouths shut even for an hour, and if they bring up these issues, I simply don't respond to their words (which are part of the left's lying and mind engineering industry) and instead give them a condescending look until they fall silent in embarrassment and humiliation. It works great, over time they learned to respect me and today they even look at me with a little awe. I have no desire or need to give them an explanation for anything at all. It's time for the right to learn to respect itself and be independent. In any case, with the left, everything is fashion without content. You simply don't need to respond. The accusations you make here are like accusations against a Jew who deceives the Fritz and the gentiles, who are generally savages and from their perspective, Jews have neither the right to life nor the right to property. It doesn't matter what the gentiles (and those who imitate them) think because they don't think. They are instincts that act on two wheels.
By the way, I don't like the various ceremonies and parades, nor the rampage (although these are teenagers and there's no point in complaining to them. That's the nature of youth). But I'm glad there's someone doing this work that needs to be done. And I certainly won't belittle him. It's quite treacherous, it must be said. When I was younger, I was shocked by this kind of violence towards Arabs (I was a sensitive teenager of this kind, although I was never a leftist, God forbid), but when I grew up and understood human nature and the soul - I realized that Arabs are a thousand times more violent. Each one of them - in relation to Jews - is a bomb waiting to explode at some point. And it's not for nothing that all the stories about Arabs who worked for Jews and were partners with them and like brothers and friends and ended up murdering them. My grandfather worked with many Arabs who loved and respected him and he told me (quite calmly) that the attitude towards them should be "respect and suspect". It is forbidden to turn your back. And as for the harm to the soul - as mentioned, these are boys and they will grow up.
FYI, since they invented the link, you can paste a link instead of typing it again.
What link (and what is it? A link is a link)? You can't edit comments here.
Instead of writing the same messages for the hundredth time
I guessed that might be what you meant. In any case, Rabbi Michi also repeats himself a lot, and that's fine. Just as an inanimate object looks different from different directions and each direction contributes more to its mental picture in the head, so too do abstract things. They have different angles of view from different directions. Every topic here floods you and illuminates this insight in a different light. In any case, it's not a message. I really do know, in part, what I'm saying. In any case, everyone who responds is conveying a message. Don't pose as an objective person.
You are absolutely right, Jerusalem Day has become an expression of repulsive religious nationalism that wants to celebrate Jewish supremacy. The secularists have removed this day from their calendar because it is Jewish and obligatory, and also symbolizes a challenge that has become a political complication and the first of all the problems facing Arab society in our country today. I happened to be there last year after almost 30 years of not participating, and what I saw with my daughter was Ben Gvir and his friends running after 2 Arabs in the street with hatred in their eyes. After Ben Gvir appeared to show ownership of this holiday, I realized that I do not belong to it at all. This holiday will soon disappear, not because it is not important in the history of the Jewish people, but as you said, because the State of Israel has already given up on this day and handed it over to the extremists. In my opinion, this symbolizes a kind of betrayal by the government to the settlers who express their anger towards a secular Zionist body that betrays its identity.
I can't understand you.
How would you feel if I wrote the sentence "Miki's family is a family of troublemakers"
?
So let me update you: The percentage of rioters and immoral behavior is much lower than the percentage of troublemakers in your family.
Why are you generalizing and slandering the overwhelming majority of the public who really came just to celebrate?
The blood of so many innocent Jews has been spilled in the last few decades.
Jews have been slaughtered, burned alive in suicide bombings, and shot and bled to death.
So many people have been injured, mentally and physically disabled by countless Arab murderers.
And we haven't even mentioned those who were caught and their plan was thwarted.
And you choose to focus on a few black (not particularly smart) Jews who commit low-level vandalism and who are not at all sure that the Arabs haven't provoked them before. And a few thousand more who sing stupid songs.
You are a real scoundrel.
And I am a fool for cooperating with this clickbait.
I definitely agree with your last sentence. Kudos to your honesty.
Where does the line cross?
I am a settler who opposes the current coup d'état
And so my daughters and I go out to demonstrations in the cold, rain, and heat.
At first I really didn't know what to do
On the one hand, I understand the existential danger to the entire nation in what the government has planned and is still planning to do
On the other hand, there were many left-wing elements in the demonstrations.
On the other hand, I found the demonstration in Jerusalem in front of the President's House and so, in a drive of almost an hour and a half each way, I found my place between religious and right-wingers who are against the current coup d'état
Although not everyone there is right-wing and certainly not settlers, many are, and in any case the atmosphere is good, pleasant, and positive.
So I found the balance, but there was a situation where I had no choice but to compromise and demonstrate with left-wingers
And that seemed right to me if nothing else.
On the other hand, every year
I took the kids to the flag parade, which I think is very, very important
And since I arrived this year before the official time, I took the kids for walks on the roofs of the Muslim Quarter in the Old City.
I've known the area for years, and I carry a weapon, and it's fascinating to see everything from above.
Then I discovered something interesting
There are huge police forces on the roofs, something of a magnitude that the public cannot imagine, dedicated to protecting the celebrants because they are invisible
But the police from above, from their vantage points, see every single one of them and their actions
Bottom line, I stood there with them and witnessed with great shame
You can clearly see the rampage, the disturbances that are trying to cause, the doors that are trying to force open …
Although not all of them, nor even most of them…
But still many many too many
(By the way, I don't understand the police. Everything seems clear and obvious to the police and some are documented. Why aren't the rioters brought to justice?)
Now I asked after seeing the disgust of a large part of the celebrants/rioters (+ the speeches that were during the demonstration at the Western Wall…) the decision was made in my heart that as much as the children let me next year, if Jerusalem is not built with the Temple, I will probably stay away from these shameful spectacles.
And why?
Because it's a pix’ that cannot be tolerated
A great disgrace
On the other hand, for demonstrations against what the government is plotting, I am less connoisseur of taste and more forgiving if there is no choice
Why?
When should one say it is important to come and therefore compromise on content
And when do the content and the atmosphere decide that it is impossible and not to come?
Where does the line cross?
The feeling of the heart?
I'm confused …
To Rabbi Michi Shalom,
Assuming that there is indeed a certain group in the parade who desecrates the name of God - why should the conclusion be to avoid coming?
On the contrary, we will come en masse together with all the large groups that avoid coming for precisely this reason, and thus we will influence and eradicate the phenomenon!
The more the national pride and sincere joy on Jerusalem Day (the joy of returning to the Holy City, a city where David camped, after 2000 years of exile!), the one that does not offend or point a finger at anyone - will grow. Thus the percentage of those who desecrate the name of God will decrease and the parade will be seen in a completely different light.
In principle, that's true. If this parade speaks to you, then go to it, but do what you can to change its character. Indifference to what happens there is problematic and also leads to blasphemy. Beyond that, there is a character that has been created and it is difficult to change it, and when the ability to change is small, it makes sense to avoid participating altogether. Especially when there is an alternative of a sane parade (Yoaz Hendel).