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Jesuit concept of keeping the commandments

שו”תCategory: faithJesuit concept of keeping the commandments
asked 9 years ago

In honor of Rabbi Dr. Michael Shalom,

I, A., have discussed with you quite a bit about the obligation to observe the commandments according to the Pharisee tradition compared to other traditions such as the Sadducees.

As I understand it, you claimed that since what we have in our hands is only the Pharisee tradition, and it seems that God, the Holy One, would not expect us to act as we do not know, unless He gave the Torah, then He would obviously expect us to interpret it according to our own opinion, and what is left for us is to act according to what we have, according to the interpretation accepted by us, which is the Pharisee tradition.

I’m interested in what you would say about the idea that the commandments should be kept in the approach of Jesus, the founder of Christianity.
I do not give rational legitimacy to the Christian approach that completely abolishes the commandments (and certainly not to rational belief in the miracles described in the New Testament).
But it seems that Jesus, the original figure who was supported by a significant portion of the Jews of his time, including great rabbis, would have suggested considering the commandments, but not the grammar.

In the Sermon on the Mount-

“1 Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples, saying, 2 The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 Therefore, whatever they tell you, observe and do, but do not do according to their deeds. For they say and do not do.” (Matthew 23)

It is also said that he told his disciples to gather grain on the Sabbath, and not to withhold it. It seems that the message is that one must observe the commandments of the Pharisee tradition, but not in detail.

And it seems that Jesus was a qualified rabbi, and many Jews, including many rabbis, followed him.

If we consider for a moment the normative value taught by Jesus and his first disciples, who still observed the commandments to one degree or another, and leave aside all the stories of miracles and wonders, from which if I receive anything, it may be something purely metaphorical, perhaps we can conclude that we have another tradition. A tradition that says that the law must be observed according to the Pharisaic tradition in the days of Jesus (and it is interesting whether it can be reconstructed, according to a study of the sources of the rumors in the Mishnah and Baraita and the halachic midrash of Re’a and Rabbi Yishmael and the rumors of the Gemara…) and follow it.

But the argument does not end here. If we can truly reconstruct a Jesuit law that must be followed and remember to follow the essence of the law and not be caught up in any grammar, then perhaps we are also dealing with a tradition that is much more likely to be from God, the Creator of the natural morality in our hearts.

As you have already agreed with me, even natural morality was created by God, and therefore, we can learn from it about God’s will for us. If so, it is more coherent, and requires fewer assumptions, to believe in so many legal grammars compared to the halachic command reflected in the words of Jesus and his first disciples.

I will emphasize that I do not know Christianity well and I speak from what I do know. I do not position myself as an expert or as someone who knows things in a systematic way. But I thought I would ask you, also because these things bother me as a Jewish person who does not easily identify with a figure who created Christianity. It is just that the truth forces me to deal with it.

Wishing you a happy holiday and doing God’s will,
A’


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מיכי Staff answered 9 years ago
Hello. ​In short, I’m saying that the fact that some approach arose at some point in history does not mean that it is a reasonable option. Do you know how many interpretations of Judaism have arisen throughout history? Regarding the concept you described, I don’t think it is a tradition that claims to come from Sinai. It is built on a revelation that supposedly happened to some single person and came to change the tradition that came from Sinai, so I don’t have much faith in it. They changed from what was accepted until their time and I see no reason to accept their concept.

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