Milgram experiment
Hey Miki
The events of Holocaust Remembrance Day shook me deeply, and as if that weren’t enough, the war in Syria intensifies and brings the feelings of horror closer together.
And I find myself asking myself whether there is no spiritual authority among the Syrians capable of drawing some red lines for the policy of massacre? The answer is clear – there is none, because in reality there is no “Syrian people”. And of course – the Milgram experiment proves to us that obedience to authority – obedience, is much more powerful than empathy.
Now I want to clarify: It doesn’t take massacres to demonstrate our moral impotence: anyone involved in health care is familiar with the phenomenon in which terminally ill people suffering from excruciating pain ask the medical team to save them from their suffering. Of course, doctors and nurses are prevented from granting these requests.
How many years passed before the legislative and legal system was able to approve the use of medical cannabis?
Perhaps this insensitivity to the suffering of others can be attributed to the fact that the human race has become accustomed to the pain of childbirth, which has probably affected its empathy.
Even if we assume that this comment is correct, then the logic is flawed – labor pains end in the creation of new, additional lives. Besides the fact that today there is an epidural. Of course, I checked whether the Haredim are careful to observe “in sorrow give birth to children,” but in this matter they behave like people from the settlement. And since we have already discussed the issue of suffering in the past, it occurred to me that perhaps the problem lies in the formal focus on the prohibition on taking life [which, as we know, also has mitigating interpretations for this matter…] Although when it comes to the matter of “death by a court of law” – Chazal corrected “it is clear to him that he died a beautiful death,” but the grief of human beings was secondary to the observance of the mitzvot. Perhaps the most shocking event in this regard is the passing of Rabbi Yehuda the President. Even if we assume that not everything narrated in the midrashim exactly corresponds to the facts, this is how it was established in the canon that shapes the spirit of the nation. Chavivin Yasurin!
Do you have any news for me on this matter [or are there any misunderstandings?]
All the best
Objections. The Milgrom experiment is not relevant here. It tested obedience, but in Syria the problem is not obedience but fear. The soldiers follow orders not necessarily because they identify or simply obey, but because they are afraid. Perhaps there is a place to come to them with claims that they need to overcome, but it is still not just obedience and it takes some heroism to refuse and pay a price (perhaps with their lives).
Your answer prompted me to update myself on the state of Assad's army, so I remembered quite correctly - there is a preference for Alawite officers, and the suppression of Sunnis who defected en masse. The Druze and Christians are very cautious. I didn't know to what extent the Alawites are secularists, and it turns out that this doesn't matter that much to the Iranians and Nasrallah today.
If you didn't know - Assad the elder preferred the company of Jews in his youth.
And since the issue of suffering is very important to me, I'll come back and ask - do you have your own insights on this painful matter?
I didn't understand the argument about suffering.
Cannabis approval was delayed because of various concerns (and perhaps also conservatism) and not necessarily because of indifference. Also, cooperation with suicide requests is not indifference but a worldview that denies such an act.
Even I understood this.
Do you think that the phrase “worldview” can legitimize and purify phenomena that cause great suffering?
By the way, regarding cannabis - are you familiar with the argument that the disqualification of cannabis did not stem from medical considerations, but rather from the fact that it is a massive plant from which extremely strong fabrics can be made.
I am not sure that this account is correct…
If you understood this, why did you hang it indifferently on others? As I wrote, even if you think it's wrong, the problem is not indifference.
I haven't heard about the fabric thing and I don't understand what it's about. On the contrary, it's another incentive to grow cannabis.
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