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A Systematic Look at the “Argument from Testimony”: David Hume’s Critique (Column 671)

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In my debate with Yaron Yadan, and even more so at the end of my debate with Jeremy Fogel, we briefly touched on the Argument from Testimony, which deals with the reliability of tradition. (We later continued the discussion with Jeremy on WhatsApp.) As far as I recall, I have never treated the Argument from Testimony systematically here on the site. So I thought this would be a good opportunity to fill the gap. In this column I present Hume’s arguments; in the next one I will critique them.

“The Argument from Testimony” or “The Argument from Miracle”

Many religious thinkers—across traditions, not only in Judaism—rely on tradition that transmits to us various miracles and divine revelations. Some see tradition about miracles as evidence for the existence of God, while others point to tradition about revelation as a channel through which God’s demands upon us (conveyed in revelation) are transmitted. In The First Existent, in the fifth conversation, I presented a somewhat more nuanced picture, in which tradition plays a role on both planes. Nowadays this is called the “Argument from Testimony,” i.e., testimony that transmits information about miracles and revelation serves as evidence for their occurrence.

In Judaism, the Argument from Testimony begins in the Torah itself. Thus, for example, the Torah states (Deuteronomy 5:4):

“The LORD did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us—even us—who are all of us here alive today. Face to face the LORD spoke with you on the mountain out of the midst of the fire.”

Or (ibid., 5:23):

“For who is there of all flesh who has heard the voice of the living God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as we have, and lived?”

Here it is not presented as an argument for the reliability of the testimony, but as an indication of God’s favor in leaving them alive after their encounter with Him.

The primary source is Deuteronomy 4:32–40:

“Indeed, ask now about the former days which were before you, from the day that God created man upon the earth, and from one end of the heavens to the other, whether anything so great as this has ever happened, or has anything like it been heard? Has a people heard the voice of God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as you have heard, and lived? Or has God ever attempted to go and take for Himself a nation from the midst of another nation, by trials, by signs, and by wonders, and by war, and by a mighty hand, and by an outstretched arm, and by great terrors—according to all that the LORD your God did for you in Egypt before your eyes? It was shown to you so that you would know that the LORD, He is God; there is no other besides Him. From heaven He made you hear His voice to discipline you, and on earth He showed you His great fire, and you heard His words out of the midst of the fire. And because He loved your fathers and chose their seed after them, He brought you out by His presence with His great power out of Egypt, to drive out nations greater and stronger than you from before you, to bring you in, to give you their land for an inheritance, as it is this day. Therefore know this day and lay it to your heart that the LORD, He is God in heaven above and on the earth beneath; there is no other. And you shall keep His statutes and His commandments which I command you today, that it may go well with you and with your children after you, and that you may prolong your days upon the land which the LORD your God gives you forever.”

Here the Argument from Testimony already appears in earnest. True, even here there is the addition “Has a nation… and lived?”, i.e., the emphasis is on the fact that we survived. But it seems from the whole passage that the Torah also intends the revelation and the miracles as testimony that the LORD is God.

The argument continues to be discussed throughout the history of Jewish thought (see here). Saadia Gaon presents it in his introduction to The Book of Beliefs and Opinions and in its third treatise; the better-known source is The Kuzari, in the first essay around section 20. In our day it is used extensively in outreach seminars. But the argument also appears in Christian thought and is discussed there at length (see here).

Many argue that it is implausible to persuade so many people of an event that never happened, and hence the power of the Argument from Testimony. There are differences among thinkers, especially Jewish ones, regarding which events the argument can be applied to. Some limit it to the Sinai revelation, while others use it for miracles generally (see here around notes 12–15).

Hume’s critique of the Argument from Testimony

Reliance on tradition has been attacked by secular and atheistic thinkers from several angles. Some point to contradictions within the relevant traditions. Others note that it is hard to accept a long-standing tradition as-is (the “telephone game” inevitably produces distortions), particularly when at least part of the chain involves ignorant and primitive generations. Above all, they argue that it is difficult to accept testimony about extraordinary phenomena, such as miracles or revelations. Traditions can be corrupted, and there may be traditions that began with the inadvertent or intentional incorporation of folktales, and the like. Sometimes positive evidence is even offered (from historical research of the Bible and beyond) that tradition is unreliable—certainly not precise. In general, the principal philosophical claim against tradition is that testimony to such phenomena requires very strong evidence, and for all the reasons above it is hard to see tradition as supplying evidence of that strength.

These are very common arguments in various versions, familiar to all of us. But the 18th-century Scottish philosopher David Hume took the argument a step further. He conceptualized and formalized it, presenting it—purportedly—as a probabilistic, formal choice between two alternatives. In doing so he sharpened the force of all the familiar arguments by setting them within a single organizing framework, which endowed the objections with tremendous persuasive power. It is no wonder that, to this day, atheist thinkers regard Hume’s formulation as a deathblow to arguments from tradition—what later came to be called the “Argument from Testimony,” or “Argument from Miracle.” Many maintain that after Hume, anyone who accepts arguments based on tradition is a fool, for there is no logical or philosophical possibility of justifying such a position. Thus the philosopher J. H. Randall wrote that Hume dealt the Argument from Testimony a fatal blow “by demonstrating the matter so clearly that since Hume scarcely has an intelligent person dared advance the argument.” Randall adds that “in the eighteenth century miracles were the principal supporting explanation of faith; [following Hume’s remarks they became] in the nineteenth century the principal problem requiring explanation.” True, other philosophers—such as Swinburne, Lewis, and Portill—have defended the Argument from Testimony; atheists, however, dismiss them as apologists and give their arguments little weight.

Needless to say, today’s atheists greatly enjoy repeating with absolute confidence (religious types, did I mention? See my conversation with Jeremy Fogel on our site’s podcast, Radical) such boastful declarations. This certainly gave me motivation to show the flaws in Hume’s arguments—of which there are several. I note that I have done so in my books as well, Emet ve-Lo Yatziv (chapters 15–16) and The First Existent (fifth conversation, chapter 4). There, however, I presented Hume briefly and my critiques addressed directly the fallacy at the heart of his argument, with less systematic analysis. Here I will describe Hume’s arguments in more detail as they appear in his An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding (trans. from English: Guy Algat; Resling, 2008), chapter 10, and then I will critique them systematically, point by point. My thanks to Jeremy Fogel, who sent me a scan of the chapter as part of our WhatsApp discussion. Here I can present my detailed response.

This chapter is divided into two parts. The first part presents the schema by which arguments from testimony are to be examined. The second shows that the various traditions have not, and cannot, pass this test; hence the conclusion that such traditions cannot be accepted. In the next two sections I will present Hume’s arguments as he gives them, and only then proceed to my critiques.

The chapter’s first part: Hume’s test

The first part opens with the claim that experience is the only tool at our disposal when we examine matters of fact (a foundational assumption of Hume, a thoroughgoing empiricist). This tool, however, is not immune to error. His first example is a weather forecast that may fail. But that is not a good example, for the forecast is already given within a statistical framework. Experience itself tells us that weather forecasts do not always come true. From this he infers that there can be varying degrees of certainty regarding conclusions drawn from experience. That certainty depends on the number of cases underlying our inference, or on the nature of the facts and the inference itself. For instance, our trust in human testimony is based on experience that people generally do not lie (we have previously seen testimonies confirmed), unless they have reasons to do so. Without experiential corroboration, we would not place trust in such testimony.

This means that our trust in human testimony must be examined in light of experience. For example, we should consider the character of the witnesses, how many there are, contradictions in the testimonies, and the manner in which the testimony is conveyed.

After all that, we must also factor in the content of the testimony: how unusual and implausible it is. A testimony whose content is highly wondrous and implausible will require very strong corroboration (many reliable witnesses, a trustworthy mode of transmission, etc.). Note that the reason is a competition between two findings of experience: on the one hand, such an extraordinary event is implausible in light of our experience; on the other hand stands the reliability of the testimony reporting it (again, per our experience). The more implausible the event, the higher the reliability we will demand of the testimony about it.

Now consider testimony whose content is not merely unusual and marvelous (i.e., of low prior probability) but a miracle proper—say, an iron bar that remains suspended in midair and does not fall to the ground. Such a miracle is a violation of the laws of nature and thus an event never observed. Our confidence that such an event does not occur is very high, and to overturn it we would need testimony with a degree of certainty greater than our confidence in the natural law purportedly violated. Only testimony whose falsity would be more miraculous than the event described could succeed. Even then, the confidence left us in the occurrence of the miracle would be relatively low, since its strength is the result of subtracting our confidence in the natural law from our confidence in the testimony.

So much for the chapter’s first part, which presents the test itself. In the second part, as noted, Hume proceeds to examine testimonies to miracles and religious revelations in light of this test.

The chapter’s second part: Critique of the Argument from Testimony

The second part opens with the assertion that there has never been testimony to a miracle that met this test—i.e., whose reliability exceeded our confidence in the natural law allegedly violated. This is not, of course, a factual determination but an a priori claim. He assumes it. The reason: there has never been testimony from a large number of very reliable and educated people of sound judgment who testified to the occurrence of a miracle.

Against the absence of such reliable testimony stands induction: in light of our experience—miracles simply do not occur.

In addition, people have a tendency to accept events precisely because of their preposterousness. He claims we take pleasure in believing in miracles; even those who do not believe in them take great pleasure in basking in the aura of one who reports a miracle. Therefore the reliability of a report of a miracle should be discounted further. In particular this holds when the hearers are of low critical judgment and vivid imagination—in short, primitive thinking. This is evidenced by the many cases in which reports of miracles among such primitive populations were debunked (or at least failed to receive corroboration from any other source).

Reports of miracles are common primarily among barbarous nations; and even when found among a civilized nation, one finds that it received them from more primitive forebears. Almost every nation passes down wondrous mythic tales about its origins and earliest days. For some reason this never happens in our day and in regions close to us in space and time, but rather in regions where we have no direct contact by which to confirm or refute the story. The nearer one approaches the age of enlightenment, the fewer the reports of miracles and supernatural events.

Another fact is that people do occasionally lie to one another. Declaring some story to be fiction is thus not an extraordinary or wildly implausible claim; it certainly does not contradict the laws of nature.

Moreover, there is not a single testimony to a miracle that is not contradicted by other testimonies. Thus two factors undermine the reliability of such testimonies: their miraculous content and contradiction within the testimonies themselves. This is not meant as a universal claim, though he presents it thus. His intent is likely directed mainly at religious traditions, which by their nature contradict one another. If you accept one, you thereby reject all the others, and vice versa. Hence such testimonies contain built-in contradiction and denial. He then offers as an example a non-religious miracle that, according to Tacitus, the Roman emperor Vespasian wrought when he healed a blind man with his saliva. The miracle is presented in a very credible and eloquent manner by a renowned and reliable historian of proven judgment, from people who themselves witnessed the miracle which occurred publicly. Additionally, the subject is a very intelligent, honest, and educated emperor known not to exaggerate or present himself as a divine figure with special powers, but to speak plainly and straightforwardly. The miracle was told after the family had already been stripped of its standing, so it had nothing to lose by such a lie. Thus, anyone who accepts this testimony has every reason to adopt it. Hume concludes this description with the following sentence: “And if we add to this the very fact itself… the impression will be that it is impossible to conceive of stronger evidence than this in favor of such a gross and palpable falsehood.” This conclusion is surprising, for he has just presented all the reasons to adopt the testimony, without laying out any counter-considerations, and yet he ends with the emphatic claim that it is a gross and palpable falsehood. He proceeds to further examples that I will not enter here. Finally he reveals his contention: what leads us all to reject such testimonies despite their strength is solely the miraculous nature of the events themselves. For him, this proves that a miraculous event is never admissible, whatever the evidence for it. He adds the difficulty of falsifying such a story, which generally occurred long ago, and the fact that in many cases the story supports the views and interests of those who testify to it (as is usually the case with religious testimonies).

His conclusion is that there has never been a report of a miracle accepted by an educated and judicious public; therefore, in light of our experience, it suffices that the content of a testimony be miraculous for us not to bother examining its reliability. No degree of reliability will suffice to persuade us of the occurrence of a miracle.

He further claims that the common argument—that it is difficult to deceive a broad public with such a fabrication—is also unconvincing. The reason is that while it may be difficult, it is not impossible. By contrast, the occurrence of a miracle that departs from the laws of nature is, by its very nature, of lower probability.

Attributing the miracle to an omnipotent being likewise changes nothing, since the very existence and capacities of such a being do not themselves derive from experience.

Finally, he summarizes the argument as follows:

Here the circle is closed. He applies the criterion presented in the first part to traditions of miracles and revelations, and his conclusion is that to accept such testimonies we would have to suppose that the probability the testimony is false is lower than the probability that the events occurred. But the probability of the events is 0, since they contravene the laws of nature; whereas the probability that a testimony has been corrupted—by error or deceit—is never 0, since such an occurrence can and has happened throughout history. Therefore we must categorically and a priori reject every tradition of a miracle or revelation, even without any further examination (which is usually impossible anyway). In chapter 15 of The Science of Freedom I offered several examples of the fallacies involved in rejecting one alternative merely because of its low probability without considering the probability of the other (see there the discussion of Munchausen syndrome by proxy, and more).

In the end, Hume even appeals to our integrity, claiming that if we examine ourselves we will find that, as critical and rational people in all other contexts (apart from religious tradition), we would not be prepared to assume that something supernatural occurred. Integrity therefore obliges us to do the same here as well.

A note on two components of Hume’s argument

As noted, Hume’s argument came up briefly at the end of my debate with Jeremy Fogel, where a hermeneutic dispute arose between us as to whether Hume attacks only the chain of transmission or the very encounter with a miracle. Jeremy argued, for some reason, that Hume attacks only the chain; I disagreed (see here Yaron’s question about this).

Hume does address, in several places, the reliability of the traditional chain of transmission about a miracle. But Jeremy also agreed that the root of the difficulty lies in the very encounter with a miracle, not in the transmission chain. Consider a person standing before an event that appears to him as a miracle. He faces two possibilities: assume that the event occurred and that he is indeed witnessing a miracle, or assume that he is mistaken or has been deceived in some way. Hume’s argument is meant to lead this person to the conclusion that what he himself is seeing is not a miracle, because errors exist in the world but miracles do not exist at all. Note that the problem’s focus is not in the chain of transmission that carries the miracle from that person to us, but in that person’s own conclusion. One can then add the possibility of error introduced by the chain of transmission, further reducing the probability that this is reliable testimony—but that is not the crux of the issue. In my view, even in Hume’s text he attacks the very encounter with the miracle, not only the reports about it. As noted, the report merely further diminishes the testimony’s credibility and strengthens the argument, but that is not its essence. Moreover, Hume likely assumes that the original people who experienced the miracle would themselves reject it out of hand (recall, he is an empiricist), and therefore he focuses on attacking the chain from them onward.

In any case, from here on I will focus mainly on the logic of the argument itself and only briefly address the reliability of the chain of transmission. I do not divide the critiques according to the chapter’s two parts, since it is hard to separate a logical critique of the argument from critiques of its applications. The reader can discern when I am attacking the logic of the argument itself and when I am addressing more practical, secondary points.

So much for Hume’s arguments. In the next column I will detail my critiques of them.

16 תגובות

  1. John Hyrcanus led to mass conversion or in any case the assimilation of the Edomites into the people of Israel, within how long did they dissolve into the Jews and accept their narratives and motifs? Who in our time can say that his great-grandfather was an Edomite so that he does not have a tradition from father to son about the giving of the Torah?
    It is enough to see how the Torah (the Book of Deuteronomy apparently) was naturally added to the canon after it was found by Hilkiah the priest to understand that the influence of the clergy and the monarchy on shaping the people's consciousness was very high. High enough to insert a new old text into the Bible.

    In any case, at least in my opinion, the situation at Mount Sinai is not described as out of the ordinary in terms of the miracles therein, the things written about the receiving of the Torah can easily be interpreted as words of praise and dramatic descriptions that concern the situation of the receiving of the new constitution and not as a deviation from the laws of nature. It is enough to read about the Hasidic Tish status and the flames and seraphim and angels standing in the room next to the Rebbe to understand that an exaggerated form of writing to glorify and exalt is not the lot of primitive people of the past but a social and cultural matter.
    Much more logical than arguing about a small group that receives a constitution from the Creator of the world whose existence is critical to the perfection of the world (and surprisingly almost nothing in the constitution or the fact that it was given by a god/gods is unusual or original to the geographical area in which it was given/formed)

    1. Sorry to interrupt, but all your words are nonsense at best.
      The claim is from John Hyrcanus. So what? The tradition is not valid because my ancestors said so because they are my ancestors, it is not about racism, only because something that passes down a chain of generations from father to son has a low probability of never happening, and therefore we assume that it happened, regardless of the tradition that passes between the Jewish people or the Turkmenist people, to the extent that there is evidence of a phenomenon that thousands of people saw and they told their sons, etc., etc., until today, it is the same thing. And since it is, it really does not matter whether you are descendants of Edomites or not, in practice there is evidence of a miraculous phenomenon that has passed down from generation to generation and has testimony from a father to a son even if it is not his father. (The fact that the descendants of Edomites do not know who they are means nothing, just as no one knows what tribe they are from and what the names of their ancestors were from those years. Apparently, it was not important enough to preserve for future generations.)
      What you wrote about a book that Hilkiah found is a stupid argument that relies on itself. If we assume that the witness's argument is valid, then necessarily your interpretation of the Torah book that Hilkiah found and the addition to the canon is incorrect. Tradition also says that the entire Torah was given from Sinai and nothing was added. So according to your rules of logic, I offer you a simpler argument: How can it be proven from the witness's argument that there was a Mount Sinai presence than what tradition says, then the tradition is necessarily lying because it says that there was a Mount Sinai presence and it never was. (As they proved that the Torah laws were based on the laws of Hammurabi and the laws were not given by revelation)
      And about the descriptions of the Tish Rebbes, have you already been there? Who said that the descriptions are not correct?
      And for the main arguments of the day, we eagerly await the next column, to know the failures.

      1. And see here https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%A6%D7%99%D7%90%D7%AA_%D7%A1%D7%A4%D7%A8_%D7%94%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%94_%D7%91%D7%99%D7%9E%D7%99_%D7%99%D7%90%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%94%D7%95 the traditional interpretation of finding the Torah scroll if it interests you.

    2. In my first book, I show that from the story of the finding of the book (which you decided was the book of Deuteronomy) itself it is understood that there was an ancient tradition about the giving of the Torah and that there was a book.
      I also explain there that the question is not whether things were added and whether every detail is correct, but whether there was a status and whether something was given in it.

    3. The claim that there is nothing unusual or original about the environment is, of course, nonsense. Pseudo-scientific demagogy.

  2. Yes, indeed.
    Yom's argument really reminds me of the issue in Ketubot 27: that testimony is not accepted when contradicted by Es (who say that water did not flow in the Pekod River).
    Just to make sure I understood (because I don't think I understood it that way), is Yom's claim that there can be no miracles (and in any case, people who claim to have seen a miracle should not be believed) an empirical or a priori claim? If it is an empirical claim, then it is not so clear to me, because it only comes from his personal experience that he did not encounter miracles, but there are other people who say that he did, and so how exactly is this a claim that stems from experience? (And in general, is there such a thing as 'negative proof from experience', after all, it's only 'not seen' but not 'seen not')? And if this is an a priori claim that miracles cannot be done, then we simply don't have to accept his assumption and his entire argument falls apart.

    1. The argument is that from the perspective of the hearer (or the experiencer) it makes no sense to accept testimony or an experience that was a miracle because of the two alternatives, the more logical one is that it is a lie or a hallucination.

  3. I understand, the only question is how he determines what makes more sense, is it based on his personal experience or on an a priori assumption?

  4. When the phrase “miracle” is mentioned in this discussion, it refers to an event that is impossible from a natural perspective, right?! Because an event that is very rare to almost impossible from a statistical perspective (for example, a certain disease will disappear at a certain moment even though there is no causal connection to what was done at that moment, and I refer to both Caesar and Rocco and the sages about the miracles of idolatry) is no longer a contradiction to the laws of nature and perhaps even a requirement of reality (after tens of thousands of times in which a miracle did not happen, it must happen).

    So, many miracles have no problem with a day, even if a day has a problem with them.

  5. The argument that most people will not believe if they hear about a miracle is intuition? Because as far as I understand, there is no connection between intuition and empiricism, so why is the relation to it evidence?
    Another point that may be discussed in the critique is that there is a difference between positive evidence and negative evidence, that is, saying that I did not see that miracles happened does not constitute evidence that there are none, depending on the previous question whether the intuition that there are no miracles is admissible.

    1. I didn't understand the question.
      The evidence is for the existence of natural laws, and in any case the conclusion is that nature behaves according to them and therefore there are no exceptions. If there is a possibility of miracles, then the positive conclusion also falls (because the laws of nature are not true).

      1. The fact that there is no way to break the laws of nature already depends on the question of God. Of course, the fact that He can break them does not mean that there are no laws.

        1. I will emphasize that even though he was an empiricist, it is difficult to base the entire proof of the witness's argument on the fact that miracles are not possible in advance. This is a type of assumption sought, that he is trying to prove that it was not possible for there to be supernatural revelation by the notion that it is impossible to change nature.

  6. Hello,
    In my opinion, the discussion regarding the credibility of the testimonies can only be held if there is unanimity between the parties to the discussion that the content of the Pentateuch is, among other things, a historical and authentic description of the creation of the world, the formation of the Jewish people, and the covenant with God Almighty.
    If the parties do indeed agree that the stories of the Bible actually happened as described, were passed down from father to son and word of mouth, and were later written in scrolls and books, they will have to agree that this applies to all words, verses, sections, and books, regardless of religion, race, or gender.
    The serpent spoke to Eve (there must be testimony passed down from generation to generation, otherwise who told it first?) So too did Noah's Ark, the Tower of Babel, Methuselah over his hundreds of years, manna from heaven, the Red Sea that was split in two, the hail and fire that inspired the lake and of course culminated in the giving of the Torah at Sinai, the voices and sights and lightning, the mists and the tablets of the covenant that were broken in fury and carved into letters of fire.
    Is there anyone who sees all of this as historical documentation?
    Or is the choice of what to see as historical documentation and what to see as a parable, a hint and a secret left to our wise interpreters and those of us who are engaged in the discussion thousands of years later.
    What is the difference between the story and description of the giving of the Torah at Mount Sinai and Jacob's dream? Only the number of witnesses?
    Is it the number of witnesses that determines whether the event could have actually happened? If so, we must conclude that only the events of the desert that included the entire nation hearing and listening, fearing and awe-inspiring happened, while all the other things may have been a mere figment of the imagination.
    But we know that it is explicitly written that Moses wrote the Torah and these things, and that he is the one who even recounted his own death while he was still alive. Therefore, in my humble opinion, any discussion of the evidence of the witnesses must begin with the agreement of the parties to the discussion, because the law of Lot's wife is like the law of the golden calf. It is impossible to decide: this is a parable and this is history.
    If the most amazing book ever given to us is a record of the events of the people of Israel, beginning with the creation of the world and the lineage of generations, then it must be treated as such, starting from the letter B in its beginning. And if there are those who consider whether the children of God did indeed take everything they could get their hands on until the earth was filled with violence and the wrath of God (again) was so fierce that it destroyed the universe except for the beloved Noah, who was 500 years old, and his household, and after considering it, they came to the conclusion that there is slight difficulty in accepting this description as a historical event in the history of the world, then this applies to the entire text, since it was entirely given by Moses, the prophet of prophets, and from firsthand sources. And perhaps even before the first source in light of the fact that the Holy One, blessed be He, is said to have glanced at the Torah and only then did He decide to create the world in twelve letters, a book, a story and a book and several articles.

    And if, nevertheless, for the sake of entertainment, I present an argument against me, saying that Meir and the entire generation of the desert died in the desert and the testimony was delivered orally by Joshua and written down 1500 years later, which in any case no one would have known how to read even if it had been written at the time, then about the generation of the desert, which in any case cannot respond, everything can be told. Just as Pharaoh did not know Joseph, so also the people who entered the land of the Kandesh did not know Moses.

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