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The Halakhic Tragedy of Our Time: The Chief Rabbinate and the Appointment of Women Rabbis (Column 648)

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Disclaimer: This post was translated from Hebrew using AI (ChatGPT 5 Thinking), so there may be inaccuracies or nuances lost. If something seems unclear, please refer to the Hebrew original or contact us for clarification.

Following a piece I read a few weeks ago about yet another decision by the Chief Rabbinate of Israel (those whom government officials consult for rulings in the laws of decay, nepotism, and corruption—always good to learn from the very best) to appoint women to the body that elects the two heads of this sorry institution. This raised a question about appointing women as rabbis, which I also wish to address here, after providing some background.

To those who know me: the cynicism here expresses bitter pain. When the verse is fulfilled among us, “Your princes are rebellious and companions of thieves; every one loves bribes and follows after rewards; they judge not the fatherless, neither does the cause of the widow come unto them,” and no one speaks up; when Torah girds sackcloth in the public square and its representatives trample it underfoot with haughty pride, sated with self-satisfaction—naturally, one turns to cynicism. Lest there be misunderstanding: this is not a Purim drosha but one for the approaching Tisha B’Av.

Background: The Electing Body and the Supreme Court’s Decision

The body that elects those two who, through no fault of their own, are called the “Chief Rabbis of Israel,” includes 80 rabbis. The law states that these will be “rabbis to be appointed by the Chief Rabbis of Israel, in consultation with the minister and with the approval of the government.” You can understand what that means. The two Chief Rabbis—appointed thanks to their fathers who were themselves Chief Rabbis (according to those decisors who hold that a rabbinate is inheritable even when the candidates are unworthy)—personally see to the continuation of this glorious chain and “restore the crown to its former glory”: ensuring that those next in line will be their sons, brothers, friends, or simply their loyal beneficiaries (for example, those who will continue to look after the profitability of the “Beit Yosef” kashrut). All of this must be done in consultation with the minister (of religious affairs), who of course is always an independent figure from… Shas. This is, after all, their registered property, and they do well to preserve it lest, Heaven forbid, we transgress the prohibition of diverting an inheritance; as is known, the sin of theft dances at the head, God spare us…

Now then, about five months ago, the Supreme Court heard a petition by various organizations to require the Rabbinate to include women among those 80 rabbis. The Supreme Court, with characteristic vigor and activism, decided that the Chief Rabbinate must consider appointing women to the body that elects the Chief Rabbis. Note well: they ruled that the term “rabbis” in the election law does not exclude appointing women. The Court did not even order them to appoint women, but rather held that the language of the law allows their appointment. This is a terrifyingly activist innovation, and no wonder it outrages all the great lights of the generation.

Needless to say, this is a bizarre ruling. I think they are a bit confused up there. The Rabbinate did not ask the Court’s permission to appoint women. Had it wanted to, it would have done so on its own. Believe it or not, I have no doubt that the High Court of Justice would not have stopped them due to some conservative reading of the law’s language, nor would it have built a dam standing firm against the Chief Rabbinate’s rampaging liberalism. The Rabbinate has refrained from doing this not because it interprets the law as applying only to men, but because it is chauvinistic and monopolistic—plain and simple (and perhaps simply because those illustrious families lack enough women to populate the electoral body). After all, the cat must somehow guard the cream. If we don’t safeguard it, Heaven forfend, we might see appointed to head this family estate rabbis who are not from the Yosef, Lau, or Deri families (and, bediavad, the Eliyahu or Shapira clans), and the like. As noted, this would be a clear prohibition of diverting/ transferring an estate and encroaching upon the border set by the first ones (namely, their father). See here for a brief review of how the owners conduct themselves on their estate. Legally, the petition sought to require the Rabbinate to do this. That it is legally permitted and possible—they know that themselves. And if we discuss the halakhah, the Supreme Court cannot issue halakhic directives to the Rabbinate (though in my opinion their halakhic abilities sometimes surpass those of the Rabbinate). So what exactly did the justices intend in this bizarre ruling? I have no idea.

Justice Daphne Barak-Erez reasoned that the electoral assembly is not a halakhic forum, and therefore there is no justification for not appointing women to it. That is, it is clear to her that women cannot be appointed to a halakhic body, but she argues this is not one. That strikes me as odd: if women can fit within the statutory language as “rabbis,” then why can’t they integrate into a halakhic body? And if they cannot be part of a rabbinic body because they are not rabbis, how can they be considered “rabbis” for purposes of the electoral body? True, one could contort her words with tongs upon tongs, and they might harmonize in toto, but just now I found yet another contradiction in this ruling—though today we put person against person. Justice Barak-Erez writes that the term “rabbis” is not limited to those certified by the Chief Rabbinate (which of course stubbornly refuses to certify women even without appointing them to rabbinic positions, thereby neatly closing the monopolistic circle). She adds that, in fact, in the past, men who lacked such certification were chosen for the electoral body. Her conclusion is that a “rav” in this context is “a teacher, one who instructs his student” (say, a rebbe in the cheder, or the “sports rabbi” or “geography rabbi” in a religious junior high). If such luminaries can be appointed, then why should women be excluded?! Are they not capable of teaching geography or reading and writing in a cheder? Oops—actually, not even that. Perhaps this excuses my earlier difficulty (why they cannot integrate into a halakhic body): they may indeed teach the Torah of geography to students, but certainly not as learned scholars and decisors. Certainly not on the exalted level that characterizes the members of the aforesaid electoral body, and even less so with the requisite pedigree (a great-grandchild of our teacher, Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, of blessed memory, or our master Aryeh Deri, may he live long—before whom no secret can remain hidden).

In any case, I saw that Justice Mintz, in dissent, argued against Barak-Erez that only someone with certification can be appointed to the electoral body (otherwise how will they ensure he belongs to one of the dynasties with title to the estate?!). But if Barak-Erez is correct that in the past men without certification were appointed, I do not understand how one can advance that claim. Well, I missed something again. Perhaps in the distant past the Rabbinate was in violation—though I find that very hard to believe about them—but good that at least now they have mended their ways, and where penitents stand… is due to crowding (duchka de-kallah).

But our saga is only beginning. Now comes the Rabbinate’s handling of this activist ruling of the Supreme Court. Don’t go anywhere.

The Rabbinate’s Decision

At its last meeting under Maran Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef, may he live, before he formally goes on to serve with splendor as the head of Shas (which he has done informally until now—unlike his father, who did so formally during his tenure until rebuked by the High Court and forced to resign from the bench), the Rabbinate discussed the matter substantively, as is its way, and decided that… it is impossible. Tell me something new. In a report on this revolutionary and surprising session, I saw wondrous things that would shake every heart; I address them below. But before reading, please contemplate the picture above to fulfill “and your eyes shall see your teachers,” in the spirit of “Listen, you rebels, shall we bring forth water for you from this rock?”—and “water” means Torah. From these rebellious “teachers” no Torah issues forth—not even by chance.

For the benefit of the holy public, I must bring the quotation in full, for it is full of all good things:

Regarding the Court’s demands to consider appointing women as members of the electoral body, the Council of the Chief Rabbinate decided as follows:

1. The Council of the Chief Rabbinate hereby clarifies that according to halakhah there is no halakhic possibility of appointing women to the position of rabbi; likewise, even consideration of appointing a woman to the position of rabbi is forbidden, as it acknowledges that a woman can bear a rabbinic position—something contrary to the position of halakhic decisors and the greats of the generations and the Chief Rabbis through the generations. I don’t know if the garbling is the reporter’s or in the original, but this passage is rather hard to read. See more below.

2. The Council of the Chief Rabbinate calls on the government to act to reverse the Court’s decision, including by legislative amendment, so that there not be a breach in the vineyard of Israel \[“the vineyard of Israel,” i.e., that private estate of the aforesaid family syndicate. We have learned that apparently this is a vineyard, not an irrigated field].

3. The Legal Department of the Chief Rabbinate will contact the legal authorities and clarify the halakhic position of the Chief Rabbinate that appointing a woman to the position of rabbi is halakhically forbidden, and therefore one must labor to find a solution consistent with Jewish law \[= that is, consistent with the interests of the aforesaid family syndicate in its estate; may their inheritance never be diverted]. Incidentally, the legal problem that so troubles them actually has a rather simple solution: the Rabbinate’s Legal Department should approach the legal authorities to change the law and allow appointment of someone who is not a rabbi, and Zion will be redeemed. How did geniuses like these not think of that themselves?!

It was further stated that “the Council of the Chief Rabbinate was taken by complete surprise by the Justice Ministry’s decision to end immediately the tenure of several city rabbis without sufficient notice \[= after all, they need time to find other employment at age ninety. How many positions can one hand out in the ‘Beit Yosef’ kashrut or the ‘El Hama’ayan’ network?! Moreover, the Haredi Independent Education Network has gone bankrupt. But fear not, they’re on it.] and despite having been elected for an unlimited term \[did we not already say: the inheritance shall not be diverted?!!!] and after decades of service and dedication to the public \[= indeed]. The Council hereby calls on those responsible in the Justice Ministry to cancel the decision to end unexpectedly the tenure of rabbis elected before the year 5734 and to act immediately to restore them to their positions. They do this while the office of Chief Rabbi passes by heredity within the illustrious families and their cronies, and while the appointments just now made suffer from severe nepotism—all, of course, for the benefit of the public \[= indeed], now being litigated in court (just now it was sent to me that Justice Elyakim Rubinstein wrote as much this morning, albeit gently, as is his way). It is worth recalling that Rabbi Ovadia ran against Rabbi Nissim while the latter was in office, and when his own term ended after ten years (under a law advanced by Moshe Nissim, the son of… Rabbi Nissim) he suddenly remembered that a rabbinic tenure is for life and one may not remove a rabbi from office while he yet lives. To his chagrin, he was nevertheless forced in the end to resign (see details here). And let me add the decision not to extend Rabbi Aryeh Stern’s tenure in Jerusalem because he reached age seventy. For some reason, there, “Jewish law” (i.e., the interests of the illustrious families) is what took us all by complete surprise.

In closing remarks to the session, Rabbi Yosef said to the Council members: ‘We stood up to the task \[translation: we safeguarded the estate, thank God]—there were many affairs concerning conversion and kashrut, and we stood up to the task \[i.e., we protected our corrupt monopoly] and all thanks to the rabbis, members of the Council; there was always cooperation among the rabbis and all decisions were adopted unanimously; all were of one opinion and counsel \[how lovely. Well, it seems when everyone is appointed by the same authority and comes from the same family or its cronies and looks after the same interest, decisions are indeed unanimous. It is the way of the world that a self-interested monopoly reaches decisions thus. Too bad that under the Jewish law I know (as opposed to the “Jewish law” of the Chief Rabbinate), unanimous decisions are actually grounds to invalidate them—at least in capital cases]. Fortunate are you and your portion; continue \[should read: begin] further to sanctify \[should read: to desecrate] His Name in public and \[thus perhaps] you will merit \[someday, in the future, when you repent—as it is said: “Let sins cease”—not sinners] commandments, and to magnify and glorify Torah.’

He added: ‘We pray, in the name of the Council of the Chief Rabbinate, for all the soldiers on the front in the north and the south \[poor soldiers. Before this, the Holy One, blessed be He, thought to save them; but after such a prayer, He surely reconsidered]; every day we hear of tragedies; we are in sorrow; every day soldiers are killed, every day soldiers are wounded; we were at a prayer rally at the Kotel with wounded soldiers and saw terrible sights of soldiers without legs or without arms; the soldiers are giving their lives; we must strengthen the people of Israel with prayer and Torah \[but Heaven forbid with conscription, God spare us. Let that thought never be spoken—otherwise we will all flee abroad]. In our synagogue, we recite chapters of Psalms daily for the soldiers’ success. I call on all rabbis to lead the recitation of Psalms for the success of Israel’s soldiers.’ \[And I, the least of men, beg them not to call. I very much want my children and sons-in-law to return home safely. M.A.]

The Council session concluded with the recitation of Psalms, led by the Chief Rabbi of Israel, Rabbi David Lau, together with the members of the Council, for the success of the security forces, the recovery of the wounded, and the speedy return of the hostages \[= it must be “speedy,” so they can all arrive before we receive the Israel Prize and flee abroad]. Now I understand why we are failing in this war at every turn: simply, the Chief Rabbinate prayed for our success. Not even the Holy One, blessed be He, can stand with them (otherwise they will depose Him too. And the a fortiori holds: if a sitting Chief Rabbi can be deposed in his lifetime, how much more so the living God while He still reigns!).

Before I turn to discuss the (so-called) halakhic “ruling” on appointing women rabbis, one more historical note.

Precedents and Predictions: The Shakdiel Case and Women’s Suffrage

It is impossible not to recall a strikingly parallel case concerning appointing women to the “rabbinic” office on a local religious council. As is well known, members of religious councils throughout the land are all blinding Torah luminaries who dim the sun’s light. One fine day, a brazen woman named Leah Shakdiel (full disclosure: a friend of ours) from Yeruham dared to apply to the religious council in her town. There arose an uproar, and not for nothing is the case remembered to this day in the annals of our blood-soaked nation (as it is said: “Then for the rite…” etc.). The land quaked and trembled. How could a woman be appointed to so exalted a public office as membership in the Yeruham religious council?! Heavens, listen—and earth, give ear—for the donkey has spoken. The Chief Rabbinate of course “ruled” that such a thing could not be considered. A wall-to-wall rabbinic consensus across all shades decreed that this was a case to fight, for it meant the destruction of halakhah handed down to us from our rabbis generation to generation. I still remember that amusing consensus as if it were today. Note: we are not talking about appointing a woman to a rabbinic position, or even appointing a “rabbi” as part of the chief-rabbinate electoral body (as in our case). Here we spoke of appointing a woman to an organ providing religious services to the people of Yeruham. It’s like appointing a female religious liaison in a battalion to distribute wine for Shabbat. Has such a thing ever been heard?! What, in Heaven’s name, could be problematic about that? Our “Torah of truth” has the answers.

Happily, the Supreme Court did not buy this tall tale, and in a panel that included the (then only) religious justice, Menachem Elon, it unanimously held that these were nonsense and that there was no legal—and not even halakhic (!)—bar to appointing a woman to this exalted religious position. At long last there was someone in the judiciary who understands halakhah. Apparently the Chief Rabbinate has few such people.

And behold, immediately thereafter the noise died down and the world fell silent. No bird chirped and no swan swanned. Women were appointed to religious councils across the universe, including Yeruham, and the world did not collapse. What’s more, not only was there acceptance of the reality—the terrible “prohibition” itself vanished. To this day no one remarks upon this grave prohibition that has been brazenly trampled by all the faithful of Israel who appoint women to religious councils, Heaven forfend. Years later, when I was already in Yeruham, the Haredi community there supported the appointment of a traditional woman to the religious council against a religious man!!! And I was left astonished: where did that “prohibition” go? And what became of the damage to the vineyard of Israel? I must note that the statements back then were far harsher than the drivel I quoted above. It begins with a grave prohibition of “be killed rather than transgress” and cries of damage to the vineyard of Israel, and within a day everything fades into thin silence as if it never was. Well, at least we tried! Someone else will now hoe the vineyard of the House of Israel.

I have no doubt the same will happen here. Soon, with God’s help, the electoral body will be suffused with light as the noble women of the Yosef, Lau, and Deri families take their seats, and all will return to its place in peace. You will surely ask: why from those families in particular? After the “women” correction, won’t this be corrected too? Absolutely not. We may overcome the stumbling block of women, but the inheritance will not, Heaven forbid, be diverted. There is halakhah, and there is “halakhah.” Some things can be compromised; some things—whose sanctity surpasses all—cannot. Women—acceptable, but only from the right families. “And I saw the entire people sitting by their families.” Truly, how splendid was the sight of the High Priest.

It is worth mentioning here the matter of women’s suffrage (and here on the situation in Israel and in Judaism). As is known, most rabbis vehemently opposed granting such a right to women. For some reason, I do not hear today Haredi or Hardal voices (Rabbi Kook also opposed) or the Chief Rabbinate calling on righteous women to act according to the tradition of our forefathers and the rulings of our rabbis on this grave matter (and thus, of course, to give up half their electorate and power in the Knesset). To be elected they still cannot, of course, in the Haredi parties to this day—but their votes they do not forgo. Interesting, isn’t it? Apparently the holy tradition and the grave prohibitions of heresy that we received from our luminous sages occasionally tolerate change—when needed. The only question is: for what need? (Preventing diversion of the inheritance or amassing political power—yes. Preserving halakhah and preventing desecration of God’s Name—most certainly not.) To be clear, I do not criticize the rabbis back then—well into the twentieth century this was the accepted norm even among gentiles. I do criticize the fools who cling to archaic norms long since obsolete, claiming this is the tradition of our fathers and presenting it as settled halakhah even though that is utterly false—yet doing so selectively, only when it suits them.

Appointing Women Rabbis and Women’s Qualification

The Rabbinate’s decision is quoted in the article, and these are their pearls (section 1):

The Council of the Chief Rabbinate hereby clarifies that according to halakhah there is no halakhic possibility of appointing women to the position of rabbi; likewise, even consideration of appointing a woman to the position of rabbi is forbidden, as it acknowledges that a woman can bear a rabbinic position—something contrary to the position of halakhic decisors and the greats of the generations and the Chief Rabbis through the generations.

As I noted, this passage is quite hard to read (I do not know if these manglings are in the original or only in the article). I am not speaking only of the odd redundancy that “according to halakhah there is no halakhic possibility” to do something. I cannot make sense of the sentence about “consideration of appointing a woman to the position of rabbi.” Who considered, and where? Perhaps they mean that the Council is forbidden to comply with the High Court’s request and even to try to consider appointing a woman as a rabbi, because the very consideration is heresy against the position of decisors and greats of the generations, etc. But who asked them to consider appointing a woman as a rabbi? The issue is appointing a woman to the electoral body. The law speaks of “rabbis,” but nobody asked them to appoint her as a rabbi. On the contrary, we saw in the Court’s ruling that, in the justices’ view, the term “rabbis” in this context is not a halakhic term and this is not about appointing women as rabbis. The Rabbinate apparently has a different interpretation of the law—and they are the legal experts, not the Supreme Court justices. And altogether, did this very meeting not deliberate whether to do so? So did they consider—or not?

But let us leave aside the silliness of terminology and phrasing, the misunderstandings of the Court’s ruling, and the limping arguments they splashed on paper. Let us turn to the bizarre rationale they offered. The deep halakhic reasoning was that this “contradicts the position of halakhic decisors and the greats of the generations and the Chief Rabbis through the generations.” That’s it—that’s the reasoning. I have never heard such a halakhic rationale. Is there any source that forbids it? Why was it not brought? A prohibition must be grounded in halakhah, not in the opinion of this or that rabbi, however great. Once there is a source that forbids, one may bring the interpretations of great authorities. If the greats of the generations did not like pickled herring, does that make it a prohibition one must not transgress? The greats of the generations also did not agree that women study Torah—not even Ḥumash and Mishnah. Why is it permitted to deviate from their view there? Why does a change in circumstances in our era justify changed norms there—at least ones that have not a shred to do with halakhah? And that is precisely the case here as well, just like women’s suffrage and their service on religious councils. I hope and predict this is a rearguard battle, and in the end they will retreat from this “grave prohibition” as they did from its predecessors.

Another problem—beyond the inherently bizarre, corrupt, and desecrating position—is their taking God’s Name in vain under the banner of halakhah. They declare a neutral matter to be halakhically forbidden without any rationale—and then retreat and do it in practice. This turns halakhah into a laughingstock and itself causes a great desecration of God’s Name—and rightly so. Both because it has nothing to do with halakhah, and because if some ignoramus in the Chief Rabbinate thinks it does, then he ought to be consistent and refrain even when inconvenient or contrary to his interests. Do not forget: we adhere to the position of the greats of the generations and the Chief Rabbis through the generations. Let me remind that the first Chief Rabbi (Rabbi Kook) opposed women voting (and also opposed Ashkenazim praying with a Sephardi accent).

I have written before that the policy of decisors to describe something not recommended as a halakhic prohibition—a prevalent practice in our circles, sadly—is very serious. Beyond the halakhic prohibition of “bal tosif” (adding to the Torah), it breeds contempt for halakhic determinations generally. Everyone sees this is a cynical use of halakhah, easily changed when convenient. So why should anyone take genuine halakhic claims seriously? For example, that homosexual relations are halakhically forbidden—or any other halakhic claim. No wonder the public treats that as a caprice of conservatives who misuse the crown. After all, the rabbis do here whatever they wish.

This is the message of the well-known midrash Rashi cites about Eve and the serpent (Genesis 3:3–4):

“Nor shall you touch it”—she added to the command; therefore she came to detract, as it is said (Prov. 30:6), “Do not add to His words.” “You will not surely die”—he pushed her until she touched it and said to her: just as there is no death in touching, so there is no death in eating.

Eve told the serpent that God had commanded not to touch the tree (whereas He had commanded only not to eat of it), and the serpent pushed her; she touched the tree and nothing happened. From this the serpent proved there is no prohibition and one does not die thereby, as Eve said. And what was the end? Consequently, Eve ate of the tree as well; that is, after she expanded the front, even what truly was forbidden no longer commanded trust. She came to transgress what God had indeed commanded. This is the cost of expansions of the front of the sort I described.

The greats of the generations’ opposition to appointing women as rabbis also lacked a halakhic basis. It was the social norm of that era (as with the right to vote and be elected)—and nothing more. Opposition to appointing converts to positions of authority seems to me similar to the alleged prohibition on appointing converts to office (see my essay on the matter, where I show this is a social norm, not a prohibition). Regarding women as judges, there are even Tosafists who wrote it is permitted (from Deborah the prophetess, who judged Israel. See column 70). But in the State of Israel today such a position is surely absurd—for women can serve as judges, prime ministers, ministers, and police and army officers—yet in the electoral body of the Chief Rabbinate, or in the Yeruham religious council, this is an exalted authority and thus halakhically forbidden to women. Any sensible person understands that a woman can be prime minister—but not a member of the Yeruham religious council. One might perhaps argue it on grounds of modesty, but such a consideration is surely circumstance-dependent. Why, then, under our new circumstances, must we cling to it? Shall we also refrain from driving cars because the greats of the generations did not drive? Perhaps we should use the remedies recommended in the Talmud because the greats recommended them?

On the margins, I must add one more anecdote (see it discussed in column 485): Prof. Halivni Weiss left the Conservative movement over a dispute about appointing women as rabbis. I wrote there that this is bizarre, for the Conservatives do things that flatly contradict accepted halakhah, and he leaves them over a policy that entails no halakhic prohibition (only runs contrary to longstanding practice). In this he shared the Rabbinate’s view that what has been customary since time immemorial must be preserved even when circumstances have changed.

This is a primitive and childish conception of halakhah. If we are speaking of custom—indeed, custom has significance, but custom is not halakhah. Customs, by nature, change as circumstances change. Just as a custom is born ex nihilo and altered the prior status quo, so too can a new custom arise and alter the current state. And certainly when that custom harms people and groups, and when harms flow from preserving it (a desecration of God’s Name, among others), there is no reason in the world to preserve it. And to present it as a halakhic prohibition is a lie that also involves the prohibition of “bal tosif”—and, of course, it is simply harm to women and to all of us and a terrible desecration of God’s Name. But the Chief Rabbinate’s main contribution to Judaism and to religious life in the State of Israel is precisely the desecration of God’s Name. So who says they have no successes?!

In conclusion, I return to Tisha B’Av and Lamentations (5:8): “Slaves rule over us; none delivers us out of their hand.”


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  1. I agree, this is one of the most slaughtered institutions the state has ever known. My father once told me that there are so-called "rabbis" that you learn how to swim, not how to slaughter.

  2. Thank you, Rabbi Michael, for your important words, and in general, for the courage to write the truth without fear.
    All of this connects in a wonderful and sad way to the recent scandal and scandal that occurred with the Rabbinical Committee to select the Religious Zionist candidate for the Chief Rabbinate. There, too, there are shaking hands of politicians hungry for power.
    Oh. Look and see our disgrace.
    Oh, what has become of us.

    1. It doesn't take any courage. I don't pay any price for it because I don't depend on them. You just have to free yourself from childhood dreams of a Chief Rabbinate that would represent Judaism in the country. People who don't agree with me are not lacking in courage but rather lacking in vision and imagination. They can't imagine a country without a Rabbinate in which Judaism would be in a much better situation.

  3. Let's not forget the last committee to appoint judges, where nepotism was much more celebrated.

  4. We only have the written Torah, the oral Torah is a human creation, and as the human material deteriorates, so too does it.

      1. I object to calling two different concepts with identical names and different adjectives. For example, it would be possible to say that Tzahal is physical protection and Torah study is spiritual protection and there is no physical protection without spiritual protection.
        The Torah that was given to Moses is the Torah. What is called the Tosheva is the interpretation, but to define it as Torah is to put both things with the same authority and then as an example for the Haredim it would simply be that what the Gedoyil say is more binding than what is written in the Torah

        1. One of the thirteen principles is that the Oral Torah was given to Moses at Sinai
          All of Judaism is built on the Oral Torah, it is very interesting how you know what tefillin is without the Oral Torah…
          and the laws of Shabbat…
          and so on and so forth

          You are confusing the Oral Torah that was passed down from generation to generation with the commentary on it.
          Look at the previous column of the rabbi, he touches on this point there, highly recommended

          1. Pirkei Avot is the fundamental lie of the Mishnah. People who invented laws, then invented that the Tosh”a was passed to them by Moses through Joshua, etc.

  5. I completely agree that they are corrupt.
    But regarding changing the policy regarding women, it is a little more complicated because the status of women in the haredi/hardeli public has not changed yet and therefore they do not really understand this option.
    You have to remember that being conservative is not corruption but a strategy for how to work with an audience.
    I am not so clear about what the desecration of the law is here? If I observe the law and it does not seem to the secular, am I desecrating the law?

    1. Even if they don't change the policy, they must honestly say that it is policy and not halakha. Therefore, their claim is a lie.
      Corruption is the lie and blasphemy, not necessarily conservatism (although when it is baseless, there is also blasphemy in it).
      Blasphemy is the lie (to present what is not halakha as halakha), and in particular that it is an abomination to the Iglooi, as was the case in the past with religious councils and the right to vote.

  6. How would the state of Judaism be better without them? Don't they help ensure that the masses of the House of Israel eat kosher food? In preventing assimilation? In burying Israel? There is more corruption in the government, does that mean the government should be shut down?

    1. Much better. There will be privatized kosher with Regulato, instead of the corrupt and defamatory monopoly that exists. The state of married life and personal status will of course be much better than today, when half of them don't get married at all and the world is full of bastards and adultery and the fear of incest that no one knows about. All of this is the work of the Rabbinate to boast about. There is corruption in the government, but I'm talking about the corruption of the Rabbinate, which even surpasses that of the government.

      1. This is a clearly unfounded theory. Today, anyone who wants to get married legally goes to the rabbinate and it requires a marriage certificate from the parents of both parties. If there were no rabbinate and any rabbi or anyone who calls themselves a rabbi could marry, there would be no monitoring and no one would know whether the marriage of the parents of the other party was conceived and conducted in a halakhic manner, even if they wanted to get married legally. This is a state of complete chaos.

        It is clear that there are many breaches today, partly because of certain rabbis (as a rabbi) who breached this fence. It is not clear to me how one can be one of the leaders of those breaching the fence and then complain about the breach.

        As for the government, the corruption there is many times greater, because their area of responsibility is many times greater. A finance minister who sat over the entire state treasury is today in prison because he stole from the state treasury. Has anyone thought about closing the Ministry of Finance because of this? The problems you are describing are appallingly true, but the solution to closing it is even more appalling. Reminds me of the biblical critics who ask questions from Zionists about the sources of the Torah, but then jump to the conclusion that the entire Torah is an invention. The fact that there is a problem means that a solution can be found, not that the problem can be made to disappear.

  7. Thank you very much, Rabbi, for the column.
    Honestly, I want to know, don't you think that without the Rabbinate there would be many loopholes in the world of halakhic law? Assimilation, kashrut, and more?

    I'm trying to imagine the State of Israel without the Rabbinate, and it's a bit hard to imagine a world we haven't seen? Maybe one day you could write a column about how you do see the State of Israel from a halakhic perspective in the ideal way? What is your vision?

  8. I am Haredi and I don't understand the logic of the rabbinate and the religious laws in Israel. What is the logic that a secular person would want to get closer to Judaism because religious laws are imposed on him? It should cause the exact opposite, as it does.
    From a halakhic perspective, it also adds more offenses. If there is no public transportation, more people travel by private car. If there is halakhic marriage, there is a lot of adultery and bastards. What exactly does Judaism gain from the whole story?

    We need to internalize the simple reality that the State of Israel is not a Jewish state at all. It is a gentile state with some Jewish characteristics that mislead people into thinking that it is Judaism. The more Judaism is separated from the state, the better it will be for Judaism and the state.

    1. It is interesting that the secularists, and especially the traditionalists, disagree with you and want to continue belonging to the historical people of Israel through the institution of the rabbinate (they are aware of its corruption but treat it with less severity).

      1. How many of them are interested in this? Surveys I have seen indicate that most would prefer that there be no religious legislation and that everyone choose their own course of action.
        The only issue where there may be a broader desire for religious legislation is the closure of businesses on Shabbat. But this is not a religious law but a social one (creating the possibility of a day of rest without the pressure of business competition), and those interested in it are mainly non-religious.

        1. I'm guessing you don't live with traditionalists. Let me tell you, there are no bigger supporters of the Rabbinate than the traditionalists, the Bibi. And since, excluding the Arabs, we accept that two-thirds of the people of Israel supported the "Atrocities" coalition, then the claim that the Rabbinate does not represent the people of Israel is quite dubious.

          As for the secular atheists, some are nationalists and accept the Rabbinate as part of the package deal, and some are truly opposed to any religious aspect.

  9. The most pleasant thing was to hear the cheers of joy on the Haredi sites when Chavi Toker, from a respectable Haredi family, was chosen to be a judge.
    And by the way, the Supreme Court Justice, Yael Welner, is the granddaughter of the witnesses to the trial.

    1. I fear that publicizing the fact that the rescuers of the eyes were put on trial by a female judge (and not yet an ultra-Orthodox one) could make it more difficult for his (ultra-Orthodox) family to bring him under the wings of the yeshiva.

  10. I was once in a class with Rabbi Mervis, who was later appointed Chief Rabbi of England, on the subject of the Queen of England. He argued convincingly that the figure of the Queen of England - a thoughtful, benevolent and polite figure - has a positive influence on the public in England. This gave rise to the thought that perhaps (theoretically) a Chief Rabbi could be such a figure, and I am not sure that Rabbi Kahana is the most suitable in the world, but he is at least a wise, honest and polite man, and he could contribute to this task (if he were elected).

  11. Now they sent me a brief overview of the conduct of the crime families from the aforementioned syndicate, and I am bringing it in full for the benefit of surfers who do not have a subscription. You can see here how factual my description of this group of criminals is. https://www.haaretz.co.il/news/politi/2024-06-19/ty-article-magazine/00000190-2c9f-d39e-a999-7edf2f290000 Under the auspices of the Netanyahu government, the Haredim turned the rabbinical positions into a family business under Benjamin Netanyahu and Aryeh Deri, last year. The term of office of the chief rabbis was extended twice in personal laws, in an attempt to postpone the problem. “Bibi method” Photo: Ohad Zweigenberg Dozens of recently vacated and opened rabbinical and dayanim positions have opened the door to a multitude of political deals and blatant promotion attempts by associates of the Yosef, Deri and Lev families. What has been done in secret so far has become more visible under the Netanyahu government – and the list of associates awaiting appointment is growing Yael Friedson and Aharon Rabinowitz 06:00 June 19, 2024 This was supposed to be the hot appointment season in the haredi and religious society. The committee for selecting dayanim was preparing to convene and select new dayanim for the rabbinical courts, Shas”s emerging city rabbinical appointment law was intended to add hundreds of new rabbinical positions, and at the same time preparations were being made for the election of the two new chief rabbis of Israel. Behind the scenes, the appointment process opened the door to a host of political deals, which led to the intervention of the legal advisor to the government and the High Court of Justice, along with attempts by Likud MKs to avoid supporting the city rabbis law. At this stage, it is unclear to what extent, if at all, the appointment process will be slowed down. The appointment season led to blatant attempts to promote insiders — including an attempt to offer the position of Jerusalem rabbi to Rabbi David Yosef, a member of the Shas Council of Elders, if he agreed to withdraw his candidacy for the position of Chief Rabbi. In addition to him, the Chief Rabbi's brother, David Lau, was also promoted, as well as a long list of insiders, sons, sons-in-law, and brothers-in-law who are candidates for dayina positions. It seems that the promotion of cronies, which has always been conducted in secret, has become more prominent and more public since the establishment of the current government, and is more indicative of the way in which the religious administration has become a kind of private business of a few families, with the list of relatives and cronies waiting in line for appointment only getting longer. Deri in a plenary session, in February. The fact that he is in a clear conflict of interest does not bother anyone Deri in a plenary session, in February. The fact that he is in a clear conflict of interest does not bother anyone Photo: Noam Rivkin Fenton Related articles High Court orders freezing of the work of the committee for selecting dayanim due to suspicion of appointing cronies | Aharon Rabinowitz censors minutes and answers phones during hearings: This is the candidate for the Great Rabbinical Court | Aharon Rabinowitz with the approval of the authorities, father meets his children without supervision despite evidence of violence | Aharon Rabinowitz Chief Rabbis The elections for the appointment of the Chief Rabbis were supposed to be held a little over a year ago. However, Shas Chairman Aryeh Deri was unable to decide whom to support — his brother, Rabbi Yehuda Deri, or the member of Shas' Council of Elders, Rabbi David Yosef and the brother of the incumbent Chief Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef. Because of this, the term of office of the Chief Rabbis was extended twice by personal laws, in an attempt to postpone the problem until a solution or compromise is found. The "Bibi Method." Deri The fact that Deri, under whom those responsible for the process operate — the Minister of Religious Services, Michael Malchieli, and the Director General of the Ministry, Yehuda Avidan — is in a clear conflict of interest does not bother anyone. When it seemed that the elections would be held on a new date, it turned out that Deri had not yet decided. The law states that the elections should have been held at the beginning of the month – but in practice, at this stage it is not clear when they will be held. Also running for one of the two positions are Rabbi Moshe Chaim Lau, the brother of the current Chief Rabbi, David Lau, and the son of the former Chief Rabbi, Israel Meir Lau. The candidacies of the two brothers of the Chief Rabbis have led to another problematic situation – both have the authority to appoint ten of the 150 members of the body that elects the Chief Rabbis (which consists of 80 rabbis and 70 public figures – mayors, heads of religious councils), and now both are in a conflict of interest. The Deputy Attorney General’s Counsel, Carmit Yulis and Gil Limon, wrote a letter to the Minister of Religious Affairs in which they prohibit the Chief Rabbis from appointing their representatives. The High Court issued a conditional order to the state and scheduled a hearing on the petition on the matter for next week. The Lau family officially states that the reason for the delay in the elections now lies in the fact that the chief rabbis refuse to comply with the High Court ruling that they must consider appointing women halachic as part of their representatives in the electorate, since these are defined in the law as "rabbis". Yulis and Limon demanded that the minister implement the ruling, but this issue has not yet been resolved because from the perspective of the rabbinical establishment, appointing women to the quota of rabbis would be considered recognizing them as rabbis. "The rabbis are forced to appoint rabbis", Minister Malchieli exclaimed in an interview with "Kikar Hashabbat". "If the Chief Rabbinate does not recognize the concept of rabbinate, I will not do anything contrary to the Chief Rabbinate". Rabbi David Yosef has been offered the position of rabbi of Jerusalem if he agrees to withdraw his candidacy for chief rabbi. Other candidates for the positions of chief rabbis are Netanya city rabbi Kalman Bar, Safed city rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu, and Michael Amos and Eliezer Igra, judges in the Great Rabbinical Court. Their chances are considered lower. “Nepotism in the religious establishment is not only a Zionist and democratic failure, but also a real danger to public trust”, says Rabbi Dr. Shaul Farber, chairman and founder of the Itim organization, whose organization has mapped the extensive family ties in the religious establishment. “Instead of addressing this issue, activists are flooding the drama with Deri's choice of who will replace the Rishon LeZion, while ignoring the blatant conflict of interest. When a few families enjoy hundreds of positions based on family ties, and not on skills or the will of the community, we lose the public. The Law for the Appointment of City Rabbis The Law for the Appointment of City Rabbis, initiated by Shas, transfers the authority of local authorities to appoint city rabbis to the Ministry of Religious Affairs, and includes dozens of changes to the existing law, which may also serve family work arrangements. For example, Section 13 of the law deals with rabbis of settlements that have been merged into one authority. According to the existing law, after the unification of authorities, the rabbis will serve in their positions for one year - but the amendment eliminates the restriction and preserves their salary rights. This is not a theoretical section, but a question that will arise soon: For many years, Chief Rabbi David Lau served as the rabbi of the Modi'in-Maccabim-Re'ut authorities. After he was elected to his position, his place was taken by Rabbi Eliyahu Elharar - Deri's brother-in-law. The rabbi of Maccabim Reut is Yaakov Tzi’Kutay, the son-in-law of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef. Even after the unification of the Modi'in-Maccabim-Reut authorities, he maintained his position as rabbi of the Maccabim-Reut neighborhoods. Rabbi Lau will soon end his role as chief rabbi, and he apparently aspires to return to his previous position in Modi'in - which creates a problem with the two incumbent rabbis. The amendment to the law is expected to help preserve the rights and authority of the two rabbis if Lau returns to his previous position, and gives Minister Malchieli the authority to determine the division of labor between them. Tali Gottlieb and Moshe Saada at a hearing in the Constitution Committee, yesterday. The coalition is determined to pass the law, and removed the opponents from the committee Tali Gottlieb and Moshe Saada at a hearing in the Constitution Committee, yesterday. The coalition is determined to pass the law, and removed the opponents from the committee Photo: Olivier Fitoussi The law also allows the minister to force the appointment of rabbis in localities that do not want it. This is about creating hundreds of new rabbinical positions. In addition, the law takes care to lower the standard for removing a rabbi who has been convicted in a criminal proceeding and transfers the discretion in the matter to a dayan appointed by the minister. The salary of city rabbis starts at 22,000 shekels (in localities with fewer than 5,000 residents) and can reach 34,000 shekels in large cities. This is a base salary that is accompanied by seniority and benefits. Former Minister Matan Kahane limited their term to ten years — and now Shas and the coalition are seeking to abolish the term limit. The powers of city rabbis are extensive — the rabbis issue kosher certificates to businesses, approve marriage registrations, and manage the city’s religious services budget. Today, Netanyahu decided that the Constitution Committee will not discuss the law’s advancement at this time, due to significant opposition among Likud Knesset members. The coalition was determined to pass it and dismissed those who opposed it, but in the meantime no date has been set for it to be discussed again by the committee. Appointment of Dayanim Last month, the Committee for the Appointment of Dayanim published the list of candidates for office in the Great Rabbinical Court and the regional courts, which proved that the courts are once again facing a celebration of appointments of relatives, close associates of committee members, and senior public figures. When it became clear that about a third of the 103 candidates on the list had family ties to committee members or senior rabbis and politicians, a public outcry arose, leading the Legal Advisor to the Government, Gali Bahar-Miara, to examine the conduct — and the committee's work was halted. The published list revealed that Deri intended to promote his son-in-law, Elkana Senans, as well as the son of Rabbi Yehuda Deri, who is Yitzhak Yosef's father-in-law. Chief Rabbi David Lau in May. His family, like each of the three powerful families, holds a long line of public positions Chief Rabbi David Lau in May. His family, like each of the three powerful families, holds a long line of public positions Photo: Oren Ben Hakon At the same time, Rabbi Lau — who is a member of the committee — promoted the appointment of his brother-in-law, Rabbi Mordechai Ralbec, to the Great Rabbinical Court, and the appointment of his son-in-law, Yehuda Mann, to the Regional Rabbinical Court. He was also preceded by Yishai Salomon, brother-in-law of Avraham Schindler, a member of the committee, Meir Amos — son of Michael Amos, and Israel Meir Kook — son-in-law of Yosef Efrati, who is responsible for appointing dayim on its behalf in the Degel Hatorah party. A family business already today Each of the three powerful families — Yosef, Deri and Lau — hold a long line of public positions, including dayim and city rabbinical positions. For example, Rabbi Ovadia Yosef's son-in-law, Rabbi Ezra Bar Shalom, served as a dayan, and two other sons-in-law served as city rabbis - Yaakov Chikutai (Rabbi of Maccabim Reut), and Aharon Butbul (Rabbi of Modi'in). Rabbi Zion Cohen, Butbul's brother-in-law, serves as the rabbi of Or Yehuda. Another son of the rabbi, Rabbi Avraham Yosef, served as the rabbi of Holon until he was convicted of breach of trust in 2015 following his abuse of his position as the city rabbi to promote the family kashrut brand "Badetz Beit Yosef". There are family ties between the Yosef family and the Deri family. Rabbi Yehuda Deri's two sons are married to the daughters of Chief Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef and his brother Avraham Yosef. His son-in-law is Ariel Atias, a former Shas minister and MK, and one of the most powerful people in the party. Atias' brother, Benjamin Atias, serves as the Sephardic city rabbi of Petach Tikva. Rabbi Mordechai Toledano, the abbot of the Jerusalem Rabbinical Court, is the son-in-law of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef and brother-in-law of Yehuda Deri. Lau is the second generation in his family to serve as chief rabbi. His father is Rabbi Israel Meir Lau, and his grandfather, Rabbi Yitzhak Yedidiya Frankel, was the chief rabbi of Tel Aviv. Lau's father-in-law, Rabbi Yitzhak Ralbach, was appointed acting rabbi of Jerusalem last week. As mentioned, his son, Mordechai, serves as the head of the Jerusalem Rabbinical Court and is a candidate for promotion to the Great Rabbinical Court. The bottom line of the endless network of appointments of relatives and associates is one – the people who hold authority and power, and decide on issues that affect the life of every citizen – marriage and divorce, kashrut, conversion and burial – are appointed and promoted above all based on family connections, and not necessarily on the merits of their halakhic and legal qualifications.

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