On Lighting the Hanukkah Candle and Watching the World Cup Final (Column 527)
With God’s help
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Dedicated to Rabbi Ariel shlit”a, who forbade the boys of the Yeruham cheider from playing soccer, because it is “the culture of Yo–van (Greece).” Rabbi, here is the proof: how did those wicked ones not consider the timing of the final match?! In these very days, the words of our Sages are fulfilled in us: “to make them transgress the statutes of Your will.” Blessed is He who chose them and their teachings, and who did not make us like the nations of the lands…
Yesterday I was sent a sacred call by two rabbis regarding delaying the lighting of the Hanukkah candle because of watching the World Cup final (today at 17:00, for anyone living on the moon):
At first I was sure it was a joke, but in the end I realized it was completely serious (see for example here). And then of course I immediately thought to myself: actually, they’re right, aren’t they?
Since this is a practical halakhic question for this very day, I decided to gird my loins like a man and offer my opinion from afar on this weighty matter. Naturally, in this column—written on this very holy day—I will try to combine my response to the ruling with the humor that is called for, and beg forgiveness from the aggrieved. And this is my beginning, with the help of the One who gives strength to the wrathful and increases might to the powerless.
The Halakhic Ruling
Let me preface that this concerns those who light at nightfall (tzeit hakochavim), since those who light at sunset can light even on this holy day in their usual manner.
The esteemed authors shlit”a presented three options:
- Light after the match. This is the worst option.
- Light during the match while the television is on (for to turn it off in the middle of the game is beyond the sages’ enactment).
- Light in haste, as if it were a burden, so as not to miss a single moment.
Their conclusion: light five minutes before the match (16:55) with the television off, with all household members present, and only then turn on the television and watch (but only for one who cannot avoid these grave transgressions of telebiziya and internet, of course. Allah yerhamo).
However, for several weighty reasons, in my slender opinion—“a worm and not a man,” a servant to a holy people upon the holy land—it is preferable specifically to light after the match, calmly (their Option A). I will add that one should be careful to light after extra time and penalties, if there are any (may the Lord hear our prayer). Therefore I have not fixed a time for this directive, and may it be pleasant to the listener. I will only add my view—da’at Torah—that most likely we are talking about around 19:30 at the earliest, when the legs of Messi and Mbappé will have ceased from the marketplace.
My main arguments are divided in two: a practical consideration regarding the manner of lighting, and a consideration from the letter of the law.
The Practical Consideration
I, humble as I am, have not been endowed with love of Israel and the attribute of finding merit like our rabbinic letter-writers shlit”a. In my slender opinion, fortunate is he who believes that our brethren, the people of Israel, will turn off the television during the preparations, shut the microwave with the popcorn, and set the table for the festive meal (or the convalescence meal—each according to his taste), and then will placidly light the Hanukkah candle without constantly checking whether the internet has, Heaven forfend, gone down; that they will sing at leisure about the barking foe and the victory of the Maccabees over the culture of Yo–van, and tell their modest and pure sons and daughters of the Lord’s miracles, for His compassions have not ceased upon us.
I am not among those who believe this (even regarding myself—don’t tell anyone). For people are preparing for the holy day (and “a mitzvah is best performed by the person himself rather than by a proxy,” as in “Rav Yosef singed the head and Rabba salted the shibuta fish”—see Kiddushin 41a), and it is highly doubtful that the masses of the House of Israel, holy flock, will be able to withstand the optimistic challenge set before them by these rabbanim. Therefore it is more reasonable, in my opinion, to recommend lighting after the match (even though it is a pesik reisha that part of the audience will be mourners exempt from mitzvot, yet at most this is placing oneself in a situation of duress. See Eruvin 67b, “that child whose hot water spilled,” and the commentaries there and much more).
We must remember that the time to light is “until foot traffic ceases from the marketplace,” and in our times and places this certainly applies even at 19:30. True, there is the principle that the zealous act early; but against that stands the manner of lighting, which would be poorer, and in my view this consideration outweighs, since it is a matter of enhancement that touches on the performance of the law itself. If not a proof, there is at least a hint from the fact that our rabbis instructed not to recite Kiddush Levanah immediately at the end of the fast (on Yom Kippur and Tisha B’Av). Indeed, many reasons and opinions are offered, but the simple understanding is concern that, due to hunger, people will say it hastily in order to get to the meal (see the question discussed here). Still, they did not instruct to say it immediately at the fast’s conclusion but postponed it to a later time. The same applies to our case.
From the Letter of the Law
Until now I assumed that there is indeed value in lighting earlier but that the manner-of-lighting consideration overrides. Yet we should recall that one who lights the Hanukkah candle this evening at nightfall will be publicizing the miracle to lizards, at best. It seems to me that only a pedestrian will be in the marketplace at that time (in any case, these feet of mine will not tread the market). If we want the people of the marketplace to see the lights and the miracle to be publicized, it seems one should lechatchilah light after the match. Even if we light five minutes before kickoff, people will then be at home—lighting the candle and preparing for the game—and afterwards they will not go out to the market but will gaze upon the noble faces of Messi and Mbappé for two hours and more. So who is it that will join the lizards in publicizing the miracle?! Therefore, it appears that even from the letter of the law, not only bedi’avad, it is preferable to light after the match, when the people’s feet arrive from the pitch to the marketplace (for as is known, in soccer the feet are not in the marketplace but on the pitch).
While writing this I wondered how the Sages tie the time of lighting to the ceasing of people’s feet from the market, for among Jews everyone’s feet are at home, since they are lighting Hanukkah candles. So whose feet are in the market for whom the miracle is publicized? One must remember that since the semi-finals even the feet of the Africans (broad ones; see Shabbat 31a) and the Tarmodians (see Shabbat 21b) are no longer in the market. If you say that this law was stated for Jews living among gentiles, and the publicizing of the miracle is intended for gentiles—that itself is strained, especially as this law was instituted by Tannaim in the Land of Israel (in my view, not by the Hasmoneans), and there, plainly, at least some settlements were entirely Jewish.
In any case, if the intent is that the lighting serve as pirsumei nisa for Jews who go out to the marketplace after the lighting (which also explains why at least half an hour’s worth of oil is required), then certainly in our case one should light after the match: one who lights before the match—his candle will be extinguished already in the first half, Heaven spare us. But if one lights after the match, the masses will pour into the streets—some to weep, some to dance in the fountain at City Hall Square—and thus all will see his tiny candles and the miracle will be publicized in the most select and elevated way.
Closing Words
I have now seen what Rava expounded in Chagigah 3a:
“Rava expounded: What is the meaning of ‘How lovely are your steps in sandals, O noble daughter’ (Song 7:2)? How lovely are the feet of Israel when they go up for the pilgrimage festival. ‘Noble daughter’—the daughter of Abraham our father, who is called ‘noble,’ as it is said: ‘The nobles of the peoples assemble, the people of the God of Abraham’—the God of Abraham, and not the God of Isaac and Jacob? Rather, the God of Abraham, who was first of the proselytes…”
And as is known, any Amora mentioned in the Gemara could revive the dead. The holy Rava already foresaw that the delicate and lovely feet of Israel may be in the marketplace—but certainly not at the World Cup (to which one “goes up to be seen by foot”). For these Israelites are compassionate, the children of the compassionate, but not really players, the children of players. And though their steps are lovely in the sandals of the noble daughter, they are somewhat less lovely in soccer boots. In our sins, in this matter the beauty of Japheth does not quite dwell in the tents of Shem. It is good that our father Abraham, peace be upon him, in his holy spirit, already brought us converts (“for he was first of the proselytes”), and from here—to those Africans with the broad feet who play for us everywhere; and as is known, the Maccabees of our day are none other than these men of renown, the Africans.
Only now we must amend FIFA’s rules and allow a national team to use “acquired players” (ger toshav), and then perhaps we will reach the final of the financial World Cup. And perhaps when their coach is Jewish, there will be in it an element of amira le-nokhri (instructing a gentile) or “throwing a splinter onto the fire” by a Jew—a sanctification of the Name unparalleled, as it is said: “and a little child shall lead them.”
And since we have come to this, I can only recommend from the depths of my heart that in the next FIFA elections the winners be Deri, Bibi, Ben Gvir, and Goldknopf. Their platform suits very well the management of this important organization, whose exploits in this World Cup you can see a little of here (not funny at all), and here regarding its corruption in general. Thus Ben Gvir will surely excel in killing multitudes of gentiles (Arabs and others) during the construction of stadiums. If they killed their enemies and lost six or seven thousand people, Ben Gvir will excel far more. Deri and Bibi, of course, will corrupt the system far better than its current and former heads. If those embezzle funds and are ousted, these of ours have already sat or will sit in prison, and their hand is great in all matters of corruption, cigars, champagne, and settling the Land of Israel in various homes as the law—without coercion. And Goldknopf, completing our five-a-side for the next World Cup, will ensure there is no “culture of Yo–van,” and that the final’s time will not again coincide with candle-lighting. And when they reveal to him that there is a housing crisis and stadiums are lacking, he can always organize a construction project like in Qatar (at the reasonable price of some ten thousand dead, by way of instructing a gentile—or a secular Jew). Then that righteous, pious, and abstinent one will say to them, in his pure tongue: “Have you tithed? Have you made eruvim? Light the candle.”
Nothing remains for me but to conclude with a prayer to the One enthroned on high, which I corrected to recite after candle-lighting this evening, just before Messi’s foot ceases from the marketplace (this is likely his last match):
May it be Your will, Lord our God and God of our fathers, that by virtue of lighting the candle according to its law this year, You grant us to see many fine finals before You (for the woman: “Place our tears in Your bottle to be,” and save us from the fate of agunot whose husbands drowned in the endless waters of Qatar). And may it be Your will that we merit to do so only by way of instructing a gentile, yet have compassion on the gentiles, for they too are Your creatures; grant them to defeat the Greeks—Joseph smiting Joseph—and may a redeemer come to Zion, and peace upon Israel.
“Behold, are not My words like fire?”—declares the Lord.
Referring to the letters of the rabbis, these and those – Isn't it simpler to light a Hanukkah candle at sunset, as required by the principle of the law?
After all, the mitzvah is when the sun sets. Abroad, many followed the method of Rabbanu Tam, and in any case they lit it at the ”second sunset”, which is when it is completely dark, but according to them, according to the principle of the law, the time is at the one and only sunset, and that is before 16:40, and why wait until 16:55, or even later?
I wrote that this is directed to those who practice lighting the stars, it is appropriate in the Shul: the end of sunset.
I loved it very much.
In a prayer that the feet of Ambaf from the market will be blessed. Happy Hanukkah, Rabbi.
That you will pray against Mbappe? I will.
Wrong. Messi's legs* of course. 😅
As I wrote, they will be removed from the market at the end of the game anyway. Excuse me, but I'm with him.
And as you can see from the video: https://www.facebook.com/people/%D7%94%D7%99%D7%94%D7%95%D7%93%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%90%D7%95%D7%94%D7%93%D7%99%D7%9D/100063611022089/
😱 I'll hold you Cordycus
His Honor calls on those who do not know the exact time of the game – and let us recall that some fans are killed (not to mention the injured and the curses) as a matter of routine (without mentioning the thousands of deaths this year in preparation for the event in the host Qatar) – “Live on the moon” but don't you know that Qatar itself bought its own players?
-As for the main halachic discussion, the same rabbis believe that it is known that it is a big problem to turn on the lights at such a late hour, and therefore ruled in this way.
Some fans were also killed in Meron - that's how it is in crowded conditions
It seems that the two holidays that are from the Rabbinical period have changed for Mr.
However, in my holy neighborhood, you can light the shop on time and there will be enough pedestrians in the market.
Happy birthday Israel!
And I heard that in one of the Shabbat communities, the synagogue rabbi noted that there are those who customarily say on Chanukah, "Gamamar Tov," and the scholar at that time will remain silent.
This is probably more valid than wishing it on Hoshana Rabbah (actually also on Rosh Hashanah, but don't tell anyone).
Wasn't it agreed that the educated at that time would remain silent? 🙂
I didn't understand all this humor, what is the rabbi actually suggesting we do? Turn it on after the game? Don't you see this as some kind of moral failure?
Yes. And no.
Talkback and there is no Maureen, yes
It seems that Chanukah has been replaced with Purim this year hahahaha. Strong and blessed for all of the above.
Hahahahahahahahaha
Tana DeMsae:
Having a television in your home is like having a jew in your living room
Father Leonard Feeney
Published in “The Point” magazine in 1957
May the power of the rabbi be with you!
You made us truly happy.
I laughed the whole column until the foreign workers died.
Delusion! In an enlightened world like ours, no one puts a stop to this unnecessary death.
If until now I was satisfied with whether there is such a thing as incarnations, now I am sure that the multiple incarnations of a stand-up comedian are particularly successful.
What about the actual viewing? (Not from the Greek culture but because of the many workers who died through negligence in preparing for the event)
I really don't know what to say. It's hard to see this as a real problem, because my viewing doesn't go up or down. And maybe the categorical injunction will prohibit it. In any case, it really has a very bitter taste.
A. There was a rule – to light candles when people returned to their homes. Regarding the question you asked – the time of return from the fields was probably around these hours, which was a range of about an hour from sunset until everyone returned to their homes. One could say that there is less significance to the time of day, but it does not sound like there is a particular value in lighting candles at the end of a temporary and one-time event, and to attribute importance to it.
B. There is a general madness in the world, which legalizes corruption and idolatry and the loss of human life for pleasure and culture, there is room for a counter-statement. You can educate people to light candles, to be part of it, and only then see if they want to. It is education for health, for correct preferences, I do not understand making fun of such a thing. That is what I did with my son, we lit candles, sat for an hour and asked riddles, we were happy and ate. Then we went to see together. If not the people of the Torah will chart such a path, who will?
The main thing missing from the book is the recitation of Hallel in blessing after Messi's victory, which is no less important than Herzl.
To Shmuel, among those who call upon his name –
I think there is no place to praise Macy's victory, since Scripture is explicit: ‘It is not the Macys who praise… ‘
With greetings, Shraga Kadmon-Tiharansky
On the 7th of Kislev, 5723
It is worth noting that the Sephardic rabbis, as the writers of the letter, follow their view that the Torah was not given only to people who immerse themselves in the world of Torah, but also to those who are in the ’marketplace’, and also to those who are attracted to the ’World Cup’; instruction should be given on how to enjoy interesting viewing without giving up on observing the Hanukkah candle mitzvah according to its rules.
With blessings, Shek’t
Apart from the matter of lighting a Hanukkah candle at the time of the ’starting–; there is also the matter of not doing an action that involves delay and excitement before observing the mitzvah of the day. Apart from the fear that in the excitement of watching the game, you will forget the mitzvah of the day – It is also important to elevate eternal values to the top of our joy.
On the 2nd of Kislev, 1989
The equal side of Messi and Mbappe is that they are descendants of “immigrants in the land” who integrated into the country that absorbed their ancestors and brought glory to their country. Messi is a descendant of the Italian Angelo Messi who immigrated to Argentina and was absorbed there. Mbappe is the son of immigrants – his father from Cameroon and his mother from Algeria, who successfully assimilated into their new homeland and climbed to the top.
Even the victory of the Hasmoneans was not only a retreat from Hellenistic globalization, but also an elevation of the stature of the Jews that brought them respect on an international level. From then on, the Jewish people became influential in the general culture, and immigrants and followers of the ‘God-fearing’ were added to it, until two or three generations after the victory of the Hasmoneans, the sons of immigrants – Shemaiah and Avtalion – rose to the position of leaders of the Jewish people.
The candles that every Jewish family lights on the threshold of its home – signal to those who are ‘outside’: ‘Come and join. You are invited to illuminate and shine’. The candles are imprinted with the seal of Yossi ben Yoezer of Tzarda and Yossi ben Yochanan of Jerusalem, and signify that the Jewish home is ‘a house of the wise’ but ‘open to all who ask, and he is invited to illuminate and shine.
Best regards, Shraga Kadmon-Tihransky
On the 3rd of Tevet 5773
It is mentioned in the books of Hasidism that 'Zat Hanukkah' is the final sealing of the judgment of the High Holy Days, in which 'a division of improvements' is given. See the Wikipedia entry 'Zat Hanukkah' and the sources cited there, and in the article 'Zat Hanukkah: The Virtue of Today in the Books of Hasidism'.
And in the month of Sha'ta, on the first day of Hanukkah there was the 'global final', and on 'Zat Hanukkah', which corresponds to the Shemini Atzeret, the greatness of Israel is revealed that I tell them, “It is hard for me to say goodbye to you,” and the holiday lights continue for the following mundane days, especially the long nights of Tevet that are capable of adding to the Torah.
With best wishes, Yaron Fishel Ordner
I think it is disrespectful to the House of Israel to say that they are unable to hold back and fulfill a rabbinical mitzvah that they are only allowed to fulfill seven days a year (and even less so on the first day of Hanukkah - at the height of enthusiasm) at the expense of watching a group of Gentiles (or perhaps animals) chasing a ball. (In particular, my words are being interpreted regarding the Haredi public because regarding the religious Zionist public (even the light ones), unfortunately it turns out that they really prefer the option of watching the Gentiles chasing the ball.. By the way, I heard this division between the sectors from a religious Zionist rabbi himself. Even though they are aware of their compromise... what a generation we have reached. And this compromise has already been turned into an ideology, unfortunately, as the Maharal writes in Netivot Olam that there is a tendency for people to create an ideology in order to allow themselves their desires. And just as in Bnei Akiva they made the mixture into an ideology, to say that this is a blessed thing and helps boys know how to create relationships with girls, and even though the lecturer who was the greatest of the generation in religious Zionism strongly opposed this (check out the lectures of the lecturers) these are people who are not exactly interested in what the great Torah scholars think even though If it is greater than their community… and He is merciful, He will atone for sin…)
On the 28th of Kislev, 3rd of July
To Moses, Shalom Rav,
The Sephardic rabbis who wrote the letter recommending lighting before the game are also addressing the traditional audience for whom the commandment of lighting the candle is important, but the fear that they will whitewash their viewing of the World Cup is not foreign to them.
The fear is not that they will intentionally cancel the lighting of the candle, but that they will postpone it after the game, and in the meantime, out of enthusiasm for the game and in the storm of discussions about what happened and what was done or not done, they will simply forget the mitzvah of the day.
Therefore, the rabbis advised lighting the Hanukkah candles a few minutes before the broadcast of the game, and only after lighting the candles should they turn on the television and watch the game.
This is always the way of the Sephardic sages, to care for ordinary Jews as well, and to bring them closer to the Torah and its mitzvahs with great patience. And as was the custom of Aaron, who loved people, even in a state of a certain distance, and through his love and patience, he would offer them to the Torah.
With greetings, Hillel Feiner-Glossinos,
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… Even when they are in a state of distance…
Apart from the real fear of forgetting, there is also the ethical aspect, to show that the commandment of the ’ is dear to us and precedes in value and therefore also in time for the enjoyment of the World Cup, that we do not put off ‘eternal life’ for the sake of ‘hourly life’.
With blessings, F”G
And hence also an answer to the claim that in our time most people arrive home later and not near sunset. And yet, it is reasonable to say that since even near sunset there are people in the community –, then there is an ethical virtue in bringing the lighting forward, which has agility and liking for the mitzvah.
I did not intend to challenge what the rabbis who wrote the letter wrote. On the contrary, I intended to challenge the words of Rabbi Michael Avraham who wrote and I quote: “My little ego is not among those who believe this (not even regarding my own. Don't tell anyone)… and it is highly doubtful whether the masses of the House of Israel, the holy flock, will be able to meet the optimistic challenge that the Rabbis have set before them”… That is what I aimed my words at.
Moshe, I suggest you go through the job ads. If there is a yeshiva looking for a supervisor, I think you are an ideal candidate. Preaching without arguments, talking nonsense and shouting slogans with determination, etc. These are exactly the parameters needed for the position. Good luck.
Thank you for your insightful words. I am always amazed by them.