The Proper Attitude Toward the Temple in Our Times (Column 412)
With God’s help
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The phenomenon of ascending the Temple Mount and the hope of reestablishing the Temple (including practical actions to advance the matter) has gained momentum in recent years. In some cases, these actions are aimed at political goals unrelated to the Temple itself (demonstrating Israeli sovereignty on the Mount as part of the struggle with the Palestinians and Muslims), but I get the impression that more and more people are striving to build a Temple for religious reasons. At first glance, this is a Torah commandment incumbent upon us and binding on any Jew committed to mitzvot and to halakhah. And yet, not a small portion of the public—including the vast majority of its spiritual leadership, and including your humble servant—finds itself indifferent to the subject and not taking part in this war effort. As noted, some of those who do take part are not necessarily motivated by the desire to fulfill the commandment of building the Temple and by halakhah.
I ask myself whether this is merely indifference and corner-cutting on my part. Perhaps. But my very non-objective feeling is that there is something more here. A few weeks ago I was asked about the proper attitude toward the Temple at this time and in general, and a short discussion developed on the topic. I was asked there to describe my position and explain it. I did so briefly there, and here I will expand and detail a bit more.
Preliminary Note: Democratic Considerations
The discussion here will focus on whether these activities have religious or other value, and whether there is an obligation to take part in them. But first I must clear the democratic issue off the table. More than once I’ve expressed my firm view that the state must allow freedom of worship to anyone who desires it, on the Temple Mount or anywhere else, and it is a scandal that it does not allow this. But this claim is not based on the notion that there is a commandment or religious value in it, rather on considerations of freedom of worship as required in a democratic state.
Similarly, I find it intolerable that the state does not allow acts with which I disagree, such as prayer at the Western Wall by Reform Jews or by Women of the Wall as they understand it, immersion of unmarried women in mikva’ot built and maintained by the state or its institutions, marriage according to people’s own understanding and faith, adoption or surrogacy for same-sex couples, and the like. Most of these actions do not really fit my views (some are even halakhically prohibited, or at least assist such prohibition), but regardless of that I think the state should not take a position on their value, but rather allow each person to act as they understand. As I understand it, the values of democracy and liberty can reside alongside full religious commitment. These are two parallel value systems to which I am committed, and even if there is a conflict between them, this does not mean that one automatically overrides the other or that I am not bound by the other. I elaborated on this in the third book of my trilogy, and I will not enter into it here.
Of course, what I say here applies only so long as no one else is directly harmed. A person does not have the freedom to harm another person. For example, the freedom of people not to vaccinate certainly does not permit them to harm others who try to avoid infection with COVID. Without entering into who is right here, the state can decide and require one side to waive or pay a price. But it is important to clarify that the term “harm” here does not mean that someone is offended by my actions or worried about my transgressions. Those who are offended on behalf of the Western Wall or on behalf of God, or who are hurt because another does not keep Shabbat for their sake, should take a pill and relax.[1] I refer here only to harm to the interests of the other person himself, and not to his paternalism over his fellow.
Just as I want everyone to be allowed to ascend the Temple Mount and pray there, I also want the state not to take a position on questions of religious outlook, and certainly not to impose its position on those who disagree (even in cases where this is the opinion of the majority. At least in some of the cases I described, this is apparently not the majority view, and the state imposes the minority’s view on the majority). Just as I would not want something contrary to my positions imposed on me, I expect that nothing should be imposed on others merely because it accords with my positions. And no, this is not a pragmatic claim (i.e., out of fear that something will be imposed on me) but a moral one: the moral imperative says that it is not right to coerce people (and as the categorical imperative teaches, the fact that I would not want compulsion imposed on me is only the indication of that. See more on this in column 122 and much more).
Let us now return to the question of the religious attitude toward the Temple and the Temple Mount as such, regardless of democratic considerations. At first glance this is a mitzvah and a clear religious value. No wonder the question arises how (and whether) one can remain indifferent and not act actively for the matter.
Initial Feelings—and Their Undoing
First, the emotions. I have already written in the past that the image of a functioning Temple—a splendid place where dozens and hundreds of animals are offered daily, and priests dressed in priestly garments walk there, sunk up to their knees in blood (see Pesachim 65b)—is essentially a mass slaughterhouse, or Auschwitz for animals; it does not exactly gladden my heart. It is not, for me, a pleasant or yearned-for picture. It is very hard for me to identify with it, certainly to long for it and to take active steps toward its restoration. On another look, these are not only feelings and emotions, but values. I oppose the slaughter of animals for no reason, certainly when it entails great suffering for them. And in general, such a picture does not strike me as an ethical and spiritual pinnacle.
Beyond all that, is my spiritual world really supposed to depend on this mass slaughter? What is lacking in my religious world today, without all this bloody commotion? Is it not enough for me to observe commandments, advance moral values, engage in rational thought and religious faith, learn Torah and practice acts of kindness (and also enjoy a few “secular” pleasures like watching the NBA, reading a book, or a good film)? What exactly is the Temple supposed to add to this pastoral picture? It will likely inject into it a lot of noise and tumult, and also a great deal of mass ecstasy and herd behavior to which I do not particularly yearn. Perhaps there will be sublime religious experiences there, but I do not miss those much either (a dyed-in-the-wool Litvak that I am). On the contrary: in my view, work on the experiential plane belongs to our lower side (far down the evolutionary ladder, somewhere deep in our primal layers). So why do I need this? Were I not afraid to say so, I would say that I ought to thank God for having spared us all that (it might even be worth adding a psalm of thanksgiving to the dirges of Tisha B’Av for the destruction. It now occurs to me that this might be a possible meaning of the surprising tune that joins the piyyut “Eli Tzion ve-Ariyah” toward the end of the kinot…).
But none of this is supposed to stand against the dozens of explicit commandments in the Torah agreed upon by all. A significant portion of halakhah and of what we study daily is dedicated to the sacrificial service and the laws connected to it. Am I not obligated, as one committed to halakhah, to swallow hard and enforce truth upon feeling (and even upon moral values)? The Torah speaks here in a clear and unambiguous voice, and it is very difficult to insert into it a conception that is averse to sacrifices. Even the prophets who cry “Why do I need your many sacrifices?” and place morals at the center—seemingly pushing Temple ritual and sacrifice to the margins—do not actually nullify the value of the service. They only protest against those who see it as the whole picture or as a substitute for the other commandments. Our Sages teach that “the world stands on three things: on Torah, on the service (that is, the sacrificial service, of course), and on acts of kindness.” Does all this not require me to overcome the feelings I described, and even the values underlying them, and to act for the restoration of the Temple and the renewal of the service in it?
Moreover, I have often told myself that my alienation and lack of identification with all matters of sacrifices and the Temple derives from my present point of view. Today it seems unlikely to me that the Temple is supposed to add anything to me, especially as I am entirely alienated from religious experiences and their spiritual value. It may be that when I find myself in a world where there is a functioning Temple, I will feel the meaning and spiritual benefit of its existence and of the service conducted there, and then I will understand why it is so important and central in halakhah and beyond. My current vantage point is a product of the landscape of my birth, and it is not necessarily correct to draw conclusions from it about realities and situations unfamiliar to me. In the halakhic context as well I have written more than once that it is difficult and improper to judge people or actions that take place in a reality unfamiliar to me (see on this, for example, here). So perhaps it is not right to judge the place and significance of the Temple in our religious lives from a contemporary point of view formed and crystallized in a completely different world?
Meta-Halakhic Considerations
R. A. I. Kook wrote his vision of vegetarianism, in which he argues—or perhaps hopes and assesses—that in the future, even when the Temple is rebuilt, no animal sacrifices will be brought there, only offerings from plant life. It is quite clear that he too was motivated by the same feelings I described above. It seems that the reservations toward Temple service and blood are not unique to me. I am in good company.
It seems that he assumes that at times the world advances beyond what prevailed in the past; that is, contrary to the common view, the present is not always necessarily degraded relative to some past utopia (as opposed to the classicist “decline of the generations”). Even if in the past there was a need for sacrificial service and it was not too grievous an affront to morality and faith, it may be that today we have progressed and it is no longer necessary, and perhaps even forbidden. It is well known that a similar idea already appears in the Rambam at the end of the Laws of Me’ilah, where he explains that the need for sacrifices was to wean people from idolatry, implying that in a more rectified world this would not be necessary.
R. Kook’s assumption is that sometimes God arranges reality (or it simply develops on its own) into a better state, and the past is not always ideal. Thus, for example, the disappearance of slavery can certainly be considered an improvement and not a deterioration of our condition. I do not generally rely on the views of earlier sages, great as they may be, but if the concern gnawing at me is that such conceptions reflect a lack of fear of Heaven, then there is not bad evidence here that this is not necessarily so. Needless to say, the overwhelming majority of the sages of Israel, across the spectrum, do not share in efforts to establish a Temple and ascend the Temple Mount. Again, I do not see them as an authoritative source, but I think this is an indication that these feelings are not mine alone. Even if they cloak it in arguments about an unworthy generation, lack of power, concerns of impurity at the holy site, and the like, the inaction and lack of cooperation with the current generation’s it’aruta d’letata (initiative from below) demand explanation. To my mind it is reasonable that there is in it something of the feelings I described.
Moreover, this spiritual improvement can come about by crooked paths. That is, even if a given state of affairs arose for reasons that seem problematic to us, that does not mean it is not a good state, and even better than its predecessors. Much has been written about the twisted emergence of kingship in Israel (David descends from Ruth, whose relationship with Boaz and, of course, her lineage, were highly questionable), and some have gone so far as to say that this is how it should be (to ward off the evil eye). There are other examples. For instance, the Talmud, and the Rambam after it, write that disputes arose in Israel because the students of Hillel and Shammai did not serve their teachers sufficiently. In Pachad Yitzchak – Hanukkah, R. Hutner writes that although the disputes arose in a problematic way, the outcome is blessed (see Chagigah 3a–3b and much in praise of dispute). He likewise writes about the encounter with Greece that paved the way for the Oral Torah (Greek logic and reason served the Sages in building the Talmudic give-and-take of the Oral Torah—“the beauty of Japheth shall dwell in the tents of Shem”). Zionism arose because of pogroms, blood libels, and other troubles of exile. The establishment of the state occurred in large measure following the Holocaust. Does that invalidate it? The state and Zionism were brought about by an explicitly secular movement. Does that necessarily invalidate them? Many Haredim claim yes, but they assume that if the path is problematic, that invalidates the result—and that is not so. Even in halakhah there are not a few prohibitions whose product is not prohibited (such as the fruits of grafted trees).
So too in our case. Even if the disappearance of the Temple and sacrifices occurred in ways that seem to us crooked—destruction and exile decreed upon us as punishment for our sins—positive results can also reach us by that route. A state in which there are no sacrifices and no Temple is not necessarily worse than what existed in the past, even if it arose out of destruction visited upon us as punishment for our sins. Following the destruction we found substitutes—such as prayer, Torah study, the development of halakhah and the Oral Torah, and more—that it is doubtful could have come about in a world with a Temple and prophecy and the people dwelling in its land. These substitutes may render the Temple superfluous (at least in its previous form). Does this mean that these substitutes are necessarily inferior? In short: bad causes do not necessarily produce bad results.
In passing I note that the Rambam and R. Kook apparently were not overly troubled by the claim I raised above—that their views took shape in an era without a Temple and without sacrifice. That did not prevent them from holding that sacrifices are something that ought to change. Did it not occur to them that perhaps when there is a Temple their view will change? Perhaps then they will experience and understand the important value and great contribution of sacrifices, which is not now clear to them? It seems that if at present it appears to them that these things do not contribute, then that is their present stance. It may be that in the future it will change, but in the meantime we are supposed to act on the basis of our current position. “A judge has only what his eyes see.”
Offerings from Plant Life
Everything I have written here is not a halakhic argument but a meta-halakhic and conceptual description. Yet, as I mentioned, on the halakhic plane there is a commandment to build a Temple, and of course many commandments of sacrifice. How can these trends be addressed halakhically? At first glance, even if in our view the state without a Temple is better and the commandments of sacrifices and offerings were meant for more degraded generations, there is still no halakhic mechanism that exempts us from so many Torah commandments. One may wonder what R. Kook, who wrote that in the future offerings will be from plant life,[2] would say to this. Where did the dozens of commandments concerning animal sacrifices go?
First, our Sages already tell us that commandments will be nullified in the world to come. The eternity of the Torah does not necessarily refer to the stages of redemption, but perhaps only to the world as it is today. At the stage of redemption, things can change. Beyond that, the Sages often reinterpreted verses by midrash and took them out of their plain sense, and there is no principled impediment that in the future something similar will be done, so that it will be decided that offerings are brought from plant life. If “an eye for an eye” can mean monetary compensation, then sacrificial offering can be from plant life. If the “rebellious and wayward son” case is made applicable only when impossible conditions obtain (his parents are of equal height and their voices identical), then offerings from animals can be made applicable only when the skies are the color yellow. A Sanhedrin established in the future can interpret the Torah, as its predecessors did in Talmudic times, and there is no limit to their ability to change halakhah. Beyond that, there is a Tannaitic dispute whether we do or do not derive law from the reasons for the commandments (doreshin ta‘ama d’kra). In practice we rule that we do not, but when a Sanhedrin is reestablished it can disagree with its predecessors and do derive law from the reasons. Indeed, as R. Kook writes in his book LeNevukhei HaDor, it can annul the halakhic stance that we do not derive law from the reasons. Note that once we derive the reasons, the Rambam’s rationale for the commandments of sacrifices cited above can become a halakhic anchor establishing that offerings come only from plant life.
All this may happen in the future, when there is a messiah and a Sanhedrin. What about now? True, we have no Temple and thus there is no dilemma of sacrifices, but striving to build a Temple is relevant even today. The commandment to build a Temple still exists and is relevant now. We do not have a Sanhedrin to change this commandment, and as long as it has not been changed, at first glance we are obligated to act for its fulfillment even if we lack identification with it. Does this mean that each of us is supposed to act actively toward restoring the Temple?
The Commandment to Build the Temple
There are midrashim that determine that the future Temple will descend from heaven and not be built by us. The well-known words of Rashi, Tosafot, and the Ritva in Sukkah 41a (s.v. “I nami”) all write that the future Temple will descend built and complete from heaven and not be built by human hands. See also the comment of the Arukh LaNer there. All this is stated despite there being a halakhic commandment of building a Temple that is incumbent upon us (and many pilpulim have been offered to reconcile their view).
Many to this day see in this a reason not to act actively to establish a Temple, despite the commandments. In light of what I wrote above, it may be that the meaning is that we leave this decision in Heaven’s hands. If they decide to send down a Temple, then apparently our current position is mistaken. If and when there is a Temple, we will understand that our present stance was based on an incorrect premise and on partial information. But it is possible that Heaven will decide not to send it down, and then that will be a de facto confirmation of the correctness of our present position.
Another aspect is the entity upon whom the obligation to build a Temple falls. Simply put, this is a commandment incumbent upon the king—that is, upon the public. The current situation is that the Jewish public is not really interested in this. In such a situation, it is not proper for individuals to do so on their own initiative in its stead, since they are not the ones commanded in the mitzvah (and if they do, they must pay the public a fine of ten gold coins for “stealing a mitzvah”).
However, in my essay on Parashat Nitzavim–Vayelekh, Mida Tova 5767, I noted that with commandments incumbent upon the public there is a responsibility upon individuals. I brought there from the Sefer HaChinukh (Mitzvah 612) who wrote that the commandment is incumbent upon the public, yet if an individual remained at home and did not go up to Jerusalem he has neglected this positive commandment. I wondered there how it can be that the positive commandment is fulfilled by those obligated in it (the majority of the public who arrived and fulfilled the Hakhel ceremony), and yet a person can be culpable as one who has neglected this commandment. If the commandment was fulfilled, how can one be faulted for neglecting it? I explained there that although the commandment is incumbent upon the public and it is the public that fulfills it, the responsibility that the commandment be fulfilled rests on each individual. Therefore, an individual who remained at home did not fulfill his responsibility, and then, even if the commandment was fulfilled by the public, he is considered as neglecting a positive commandment. The conclusion is that even if the public does not fulfill the commandment, individuals are not exempt from their responsibility to see to it that it be carried out. If so, with regard to building the Temple, one can argue that even if the public is commanded, individuals have a responsibility to ensure that the public fulfills its duties.
Now I wish to argue more. My claim is that today there is no “public” at all that can be considered as Klal Yisrael. There are Jews of many kinds, but most are not committed to the Torah, and therefore it is difficult to relate to them as a Jewish collective and a Jewish public obligated in our communal commandments. In a situation where there is no Jewish public (Klal Yisrael has ascended on high and become an ideal), the description that the public does not want to fulfill its duty is not exhaustive. The more accurate description is that there is no public at all that is obligated. In such a situation it is doubtful to what extent communal commandments apply, and consequently there is great doubt as to the extent of individual responsibility to ensure that the public carries out its (non-existent) duties.
Incidentally, in my opinion the same applies to conquering the land. Even according to the Ramban (positive commandment 4 in his additions to the Sefer HaMitzvot), where he determines that there is a commandment to conquer the land, it may be that today there is no such commandment—not only because the public is not interested in it, but also because the entity commanded (the public) does not exist.
Practical Summary
My starting point is that I do not have great longing for a state of affairs in which there is a functioning Temple. In my eyes it is also not a desirable condition ethically and spiritually. I may be mistaken because I have not experienced it, but until proven otherwise my position stands (following the Rambam and R. Kook). Admittedly, this is only the meta-halakhic plane. As for the halakhah obligating us to build a Temple, we saw several considerations why it is not necessarily relevant to us today. These are, of course, not decisive arguments, and one can quite easily challenge and dispute them. After all, we are dealing with Torah commandments agreed upon by all, and it is hard to nullify them on the strength of mere reasoning.
However, here our fundamental lack of desire returns. As noted, my thinking on the subject is based on the assumption that I do not see in this a great lack, and I do not see in the Temple and sacrifices an added value for our service of God and our spirituality. In such a state, even if I cannot, on the strength of mere reasoning, nullify Torah commandments, it is still reasonable within halakhic discussion to choose the interpretive path that exempts me from active involvement for these commandments (establishing a Temple and offering sacrifices). If God wishes—it will happen, but I will not act to bring it about; in the spirit of “yeitei v’lo achmineih” (“let it come, but may I not see it”). To put it in the style of the early authorities in Sukkah cited above: I leave the matter to Heaven. If God decides that it is proper even in our day, let Him send down a Temple from heaven. And in general, each person chooses the missions to which he devotes his efforts (after all, one cannot do everything). So for one who feels as I do, it is only natural that the mission of promoting the building of the Temple and the offering of sacrifices will not be the one he chooses to focus on, even if he had no way to challenge it.
It may be that after a Temple is established and I experience its significance directly, I will realize that I am mistaken. Perhaps I will then see that the contribution of the Temple and sacrifices to the service of God is essential and unparalleled. In such a case I will presumably change my position (I hope). But as long as this is my current vantage point, my attitude to the issue is derived from it and not from what might change in it if and when the situation changes. A judge has only what his eyes see.
[1] Incidentally, in a debate with Mordechai in the talkbacks after column 410, the argument arose that the custom of the place at the Western Wall is to pray separately and in the Orthodox rite, and therefore it is legitimate not to allow Reform Jews to pray there as they understand. By that logic, the custom of the place at the Temple Mount, Rachel’s Tomb, the Cave of the Patriarchs, and the like is Muslim prayer only, and therefore it is legitimate not to allow Jews to ascend there and certainly not to pray there. I see no difference (yes, yes, I know: a Jewish state. And democratic…).
[2] Incidentally, there is such a midrash of our Sages as well.
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Shalom Rabbi, and thank you.
Forgive me for the length,
But I would like to make a comment –
1. Why do you assume that there is a crucial dependence between the Temple and sacrifices? This is not true, for both sides: sacrifices are offered even without a Temple, and the Temple serves as a spiritual center for other things besides sacrifices (especially the Sanhedrin).
2. Does the amount of sacrifices *really* have to be such that the priests are immersed in it up to their ankles in blood? In general, I feel that one of the feelings that accompanies the article, throughout its length, is that in the classical / ’normal’ state of the Temple, the killing of animals is carried out as an ideal. This, of course, is not true. Sacrifices, on the whole, are not that numerous, especially if we assume for the moment that there are only single sacrifices (which will probably not happen in the near future), what will remain? Two daily ones in the morning and in the evening and some more added from time to time? As for all the other sacrifices, I don't understand – I personally have avoided eating meat for a long time, and I think I have also influenced people (especially religious ones…) more than once to change their attitude towards vegetarianism. But as long as people do eat meat to their heart's content, what will happen if they also do so in a temple setting? Because of a few (chosen) organs, which they will offer on the altar, has the action become less moral? On the contrary, in such a case at least the animal went for a higher purpose (or at least we can justify it to ourselves…), and not *just* to please our throats. It can, of course, be argued that in a temple the moral level should be high, but it doesn't seem like this intuition motivates many people.
3. I found a much more impressive parallel to the idea of a positive thing unfolding in tortuous paths – Jerusalem Talmud (Vilna) Tractate Sanhedrin Chapter 1 Halacha 1: Let it be forty years before the destruction of the House that the laws of souls were taken up, and in the days of Shimon ben Shetach the laws of property were taken up. Said R”sh ben Yochi, may you have mercy on him, the wise man of Midon.
4. I have difficulty understanding your words regarding the public. It is true that you are a man of a philosophical temperament, and your commitment to thought is great. But in the average person there is a considerable distance between the mind and the deed, and in general most people do not begin to bother to form an opinion about things they see, and not everything they encounter becomes an ethical/logical dilemma for them. Why do you assume that there is no public? Most of the public in Israel is neither religious nor secular, but rather “non-religious-but-potential-observers of the mitzvot”. Go and see: A man’s grandmother has passed away, and he is starting to observe Shabbat. And what happened? Is he suddenly wise? Did he study Torah and work? Or did it just give him the ”posh”?
5. Perhaps it is worth noting, just for the sake of fairness, that it seems that in his old age Rav Kook did not renounce the sacrifices, although he probably thought that one day they would also cease.
6. Despite all this, I think I must note that I definitely enjoyed the column, and to appease my vegetarian feelings, I am adding here with your permission for the benefit of the readers a link to your important column on the subject, On Indifference and Denial – Our Attitude to Animals (column 45): https://mikyab.net/posts/2357
1. You are right in principle, but de facto there is a connection. The fact is that in practice one does not sacrifice without a house. Beyond that, a temple without sacrifices is a nice idea, but I do not know what its nature would be, and whether it must be located in the same place. This completely changes the question I was dealing with (Should a spiritual center be established in Kfar Saba? What will they do there: discussions between intellectuals and musical performances?)
The disagreement between the Ramban and the Ramban is well-known over the question of whether the Temple is a means of sacrifice (the house of sacrifice) or whether the sacrifices are a means of infusing the Divine Presence into it. Either way, they have a name for sacrifices (e.g. the cultural center in Kfar Saba).
2. When you do it in an institutionalized public setting, it is completely different. Besides, I do not distinguish between individual sacrifices and public sacrifices. As far as I am concerned, if the Temple returns, all sacrifices also return (e.g. Kfar Saba).
3. That's not a very successful example. The situation that has been created is not ideal, but because of our situation it is the best there is. But clearly there is hope for the return of the ideal situation. I'm talking about a change for the better. By the way, I have no doubt that those who deal with various legends can find good examples of this here and there.
4. This is culture, not religion. There is no commitment there that is the essence of Jewish religiosity. There is no collective today that operates as a halakhic collective and follows the path of halakhic law. In my opinion, it is absurd to see such a situation as a Jewish collective. Weber already insisted on the scholasticization of religious ideas (not a secular Protestant like a secular Catholic or Jewish or Muslim). His ‘Protestant thesis’ is a clear example of this.
5. I didn't know him, but it doesn't really matter. I am not an expert on his approaches and I only brought him up as a helpful example (as I also explained in the column). Anyway, you write that he still thought they would end up together.
6. Chen Chen.
1. It is true that there is a de facto connection, but I think we are tasked with eliminating it. A. Because it is the truth. B. Because it is more tactically effective. I don't know if you intended it or if it worked out for you, but this is *exactly* what is done in the Temple, apart from sacrificing: there is a meeting of rabbis, a congress (in Greek: Sanhedrin…) and a group of poets. Both of these belong by definition to the Temple. Both the singing of the Levites, and also the Sanhedrin – and we have already discussed the old man of Mamre, that if he finds them outside their place, he is not killed. Therefore, if we want to return these, we are tasked with engineering the public's consciousness and severing the wrong connection between the Temple and the sacrifices, both because it is the truth and because it is effective.
2. I don't understand. If we manage to build the Temple itself, we will certainly be able to understand later that perhaps not everything is appropriate. And even if in principle we really encourage the offering of sacrifices, it may not be possible right away. And in fact, if we do not lie to ourselves, there is no difference between a situation in which there is a temple and a situation in which there is no temple from this point of view. If you believe that the conditions of reality are a good enough reason not to offer sacrifices, the question of the existence of a temple is completely trivial. I see no reason not to strive for the establishment of a temple in this context.
3. I do not know; it is very possible that Rabbi Shimon, a disciple of Rabbi Akiva, who declares that "if we were in the Sanhedrin, no one would ever be killed" (Machot 7), and who himself declares that "I can exempt the entire world from judgment from the day I was created until now" (Sukkah Ma:) He didn't exactly see the situation of Din as particularly ideal (even if he knew that one day it would come and Din would return. What about a possible reduction of the Dinim? I don't know)
4. A. Forgiveness, here you failed in what you warned about more than once. The stories of the good, charming, and wonderful past. And when was the entire Jewish people a large community that was devout in keeping the commandments? Perhaps, there were a generation or two according to the legends of the Sages, Hezekiah who stuck a sword in the Beit Midrash, the generation of Rashbi, and some other such generations. But in general, there have always always been the people of the Land, who are almost identical to the secular people found today (and perhaps even worse). I think the criterion must be different, meaning that anyone who does not fundamentally deny a connection to religion believes in God, even if he thinks that He will “forgive him and understand” (Or he doesn't think at all / prefers to suppress. And there are quite a few of them, if not the majority of the public). This may not be the most perfect belief there is, and still. B. Let's assume you're right; so what? Even if you're the only one who feels a commitment to religion, and your criterion is correct – you are the public and the public is you. Isn't that right?
On the 26th of Elul, 1551,
It seems that we do not need to discuss the question, “Why do we have a sanctuary and sacrifices?” Just as the sages wondered about the question, “Why do we blow the trumpet?” After all, the answer is, “He said, ‘He blew the trumpet,’” and in the same way, we say, “Why do we have a sanctuary and sacrifices?’” And nothing more.
Indeed, even in the shofar, the sages of the ages sought reasons that would make the mitzvah taste good to us. Whether as a means of alarm and awakening to repentance and improvement, or as a reminder of the shofar of the giving of the Torah, a memory that leads to a renewed reception of the Torah; or as a reminder of the future redemption, a memory that awakens the anticipation of redemption.
Regarding the Temple, various reasons were stated in the scriptures themselves. In the Torah, we were commanded, “And make Me a temple, that I may dwell in their midst.” The Temple embodies the inspiration of the Divine Presence in the people of Israel. It brings within the hearts of the nation and its individuals the close connection with the Creator of the world, a connection that binds us to a life of ascension and holiness.
The prohibition of altars and the concentration of work “in a place chosen by God” internalize in the hearts of the nation and its individuals the need to unite, to stand before God “as one man with one heart,” and not as separate individuals, as a righteous man in his own eyes would do. In the Temple, they worship God together, and from there Torah and instruction will come forth for the entire nation, and in the End Times, for the entire world.
Another aspect was emphasized by David, who expressed the discomfort that he, as a king, resides in a magnificent cedar house while the ‘ark of God’ is within the curtain’. Just as a king of flesh and blood has a palace that expresses the ‘glory of his kingdom’ – so too should there be a house that expresses in its splendor the honor and supremacy of the King of kings.
Solomon, in his address to Horam, king of Tyre (Dehi”2 2 ’), emphasizes the purpose of the house: ‘to the name of the ’God, to dedicate it to Him’; the building of the house will express the holiness of God, and an additional purpose: ‘to burn incense before Him, and to set it before Him continually, and to offer sacrifices morning and evening for the Sabbaths and for the feasts of the ’ God has made this for Israel forever, and the emphasis here is on the public sacrifices offered as a duty, a daily matter, on Sabbaths and on feasts.
In his prayer at the dedication of the Temple, Solomon presents another aspect of the Temple as a place to which the public and individuals (and even the non-Israelite) pray in times of trouble and distress, when asking for help involves submission and repentance. And I agree with him (Deuteronomy 2:7). On the one hand, “I have chosen this place for myself as a house of sacrifice,” and on the other hand, salvation from trouble is also conditional on spiritual work: “And my people will submit themselves” and pray and seek my face and turn from their evil ways. And I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
Isaiah sees the Temple as a place where all the nations flock to learn from the ways of the God of Jacob, ‘for out of Zion shall go forth the Torah’, receiving the Torah ‘from above and below’, and on the other hand, a place for the prayer and worship of the Lord of the people of Israel and all of humanity: ‘And I will bring them to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer, their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be accepted on my altar, for my house shall be called a house of prayer for all peoples’, the work of physical sacrifices – is inextricably linked to the spiritual work of prayer.
Even at the time of the destruction of the physical Temple – The spiritual work of the Temple continues, as Solomon says (Dehi”2 2): ‘This is for ever upon Israel’, who expounded in the offerings of the Lord about ‘Michael the great minister who stands and offers before the ’Korban’, and Tos’ (ibid.) brought two explanations in the midrash. In one midrash, Michael offers ‘the souls of the righteous’, while in the other midrash, Michael offers ‘lambs of fire’.
Perhaps the idea underlying these midrash is that the spiritual work of the Temple can be: (a) the dedication of the souls of the righteous. (b) ‘lambs of fire’ We express in thought the unity of the entire nation in the work of God, just as the constant public sacrifices expressed our being not only individuals who work for God, but an entire nation united in its loyalty to God.
For Michael the Great, the spiritual work of the Temple is sufficient, whether in the dedication of the souls of individuals or in the ’lamb of fire’ expressing the work of the national God – for people who are materially divided, there is also value in the physical expression of the spiritual idea, in the symbolic act of bringing sacrifices to God, which symbolizes, as the author of the book of education says, the dedication to God of the ‘animal soul’ in man, and ’after the deeds –the hearts will be drawn’.
Best regards, Nahorai Shraga Agami-Psisowitz
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… The Temple intensifies the inspiration of wit in the people of Israel, instilling in the hearts of the nation and its individuals the connection…
On the eve of Rosh Hashanah, 5722
The shofar is parallel to the Temple, as both symbolize and strengthen the connection between the people of Israel and their God. The various aspects of the shofar also parallel the various aspects of the Temple.
On the one hand, the shofar is an expression of a request for mercy from the Lord, as stated: “He hears the voice of the cry of His people Israel with mercy, and thus the Temple is a place of prayer to the Lord; and on the other hand, the shofar calls upon man to listen to the word of the Lord and His will, and the Temple is a place from which Torah and teaching emanate.
On the one hand, the shofar recalls the peaks of the past, the binding of Isaac and the giving of the Torah, and on the other hand, the aspiration for redemption, in which a “great shofar will be blown for our deliverance.”
And so the Temple, is the continuation of the Akida (and in place of the Akida), the sacrifice reminds us of our duty to dedicate ourselves to Him, and to sacrifice ourselves to Him by canceling our will for His will; the Temple is also the continuation of Mount Sinai and the Tabernacle, where the Lord met with us and made us hear His word.
And the Temple will serve a central role at the time of the future redemption, both in being a “house of prayer for all nations,” and in being the place to which all nations will flock and seek the guidance of the God of Jacob, the place from which the law of peace and justice will come for all of humanity. Just as the blowing of the shofar gathers the people to the center, so in the future, a great shofar will be blown, and the lost from the land of Assyria and the outcasts from the land of Egypt will come and worship Him on the Holy Mountain in Jerusalem.
With the blessing of ‘May the year of redemption come soon’, Naz”ef
Yes, indeed.
Note: It was probably written by mistake that the Rambam in the Law of Meila writes so. The meaning is probably the Rambam in the Law of Meila, because in the Law of Meila he establishes the sacrifices as a law and does not write that they will change.
And another note: The attitude towards Zionism is also discussed in the same way. What he is saying is that the rabbis throughout the generations felt that YHWH may be a commandment and the source of the commandments in the Torah, but it is not necessary, etc., and according to their feeling there is no need for it, and if God decides to bring it, what good? And if not, perhaps we will also interpret the Torah that the place that God chooses and Jerusalem refers to Arosa and Interlaken, and there God commanded the blessing forever (how could it not be?). I really think that the anachronistic claims against opponents of Zionism can also be rejected with the same arguments you raised, but somehow, there is an existential expectation in everyday life, that a person will take himself in hand in a certain direction. I have no philosophical argument here against the article, but it brings to a state of twilight that in other areas we do not live like this.
And as they have said before, the Temple is not only sacrifices but the authority of the Sanhedrin, for example, and more. So the hesitation should have been ostensibly only from the part of sacrifices.
Indeed, that's right. I was confused.
Indeed, I was only dealing here with the aspect of sacrifices. The aspects you raised that are related to the return of the Sanhedrin, I have written about in the past. This is a different question. Incidentally, it is possible to establish a Sanhedrin without any connection to the Temple. The grove is not very essential to its functioning. Therefore, this is a completely different question.
As I wrote in my response to Yehonatan above, I know that theoretically they are talking about a Temple without sacrifices, but this is an empty idea in my opinion (until you tell me what they will do there), and it also completely changes the question under discussion (regarding the Cultural Center in Kfar Saba, in my response there).
Can a Sanhedrin be established without a connection to the Temple?? The grove is not very essential to its functioning??
And those judges – that you should establish a Sanhedrin at the Temple
The Sanhedrin was found and sat in a shop – issued” for the laws of souls
“and did according to the word.. from that place” – teaches that the place is a factor (Ezra 8:2 and Toss’)
And many more
These are local and technical flaws in its functioning. The Sanhedrin was exiled to Yavneh and still functioned as a Sanhedrin. They have already written about the ability to renew central authority even in our own day. So at most, the laws of souls are annulled (and even that can be done unlawfully) and one or another detail.
I didn't fully understand, according to the Rabbi, why we should identify fully and fast wholeheartedly during the fasts of the destruction and Tisha B'Av in our day? What exactly should we cry and mourn for the destruction that is not according to the mitzvot of learned people, and what should we rejoice that we have been redeemed (in those things where it seems that the Aliyah of the generations has occurred)?
Thank you very much for the important clarification!
Happy New Year and good news
I am concerned with restoring the Sanhedrin and Halacha and Jewish sovereignty (as opposed to the sovereignty that exists today). I have no shortage of sacrifices.
You wrote, "Beyond all this, is my spiritual world really supposed to depend on this mass slaughter? What am I missing in my religious world today, without all this bloody mess?".
I don't think this is a good argument, because of course you don't know what you're missing when you don't have it yet, and as they say, with eating, your appetite grows, when you haven't tasted it yet, of course you don't know what you're missing.
I'm sorry, please ignore the above comment, you wrote that yourself later. My fault.
Shalom Rabbeinu.
There is an element in the longing for the Temple that you did not mention, you wrote that you see religious experiences as lowly and primitive. To a certain extent I agree with you, although there is a difference between the ecstasy in Uman and the game of Beit Shemesh (I was in both). There is a spiritual dimension in reality that even super intelligent and rational people recognize. You mentioned the vision, of course the hermit rabbi, both of them talk about it.
The longing for the Temple is that "three times a year all your memory will see the face of the Lord your God... and will not see the face of the Lord empty-handed." I do not think this is a parable. This is not about throwing away the intellect but about developing a mental sense that was and is lost, and probably a crude and small model of it is found in religious emotional experiences, but it is not them.
The Torah says that we are a wise people and also says that we can see. When you read a book like the Virtues for the Study of Halacha, it is indeed a good testament to our wisdom. I and many others miss the ability to see the ’.
I agree with every word. That's why I wrote that maybe when I experience it I will understand more. The question is whether that's why I should now take practical steps to return the sacrifice. In my opinion, no.
Shalom Rabbi.
I find it difficult that the article completely ignores the reason for sacrifices, even if I would say that it is motivated by the basic premise that sacrifices are a gift to God, an assumption that almost makes them morally unnecessary. But it seems to me a simple and clear explanation that there is a great moral benefit in that when a person sins, it will cost him money. A person who sins on Shabbat out of carelessness and lack of attention will have to spend his money later. And yes, there is a benefit in that a person who is saved from death will do something and bring money to the Temple, and also give birth, etc.
And what about the poor animals? Here I will answer and say: Why is the spiritual, moral need less than the physical value? Why is eating an animal to bless our bodies okay and slaughtering it to correct our ways wrong?
If the need is such that it will cost him money, then he should give charity. Beyond that, there are many sacrifices that do not come for sin.
Where is the midrash (mentioned in note 2) that only plants will now be offered?
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Is there a chance?
Rabbi Pinchas and Rabbi Levi and Rabbi Yochanan in the name of Rabbi Menachem Daglia in the future, all sacrifices are void, and a sacrifice of thanksgiving is not void. All prayers are void, and thanksgiving is not void. The Lord (Jeremiah 33:11): “The voice of joy and the voice of joy, the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride, the voice of those who say, “Give thanks to the Lord of hosts,” etc. This is thanksgiving, “and they bring thanksgiving to the house of the Lord,” this is a sacrifice of thanksgiving, and so David says (Psalms 50:13): “I have vowed to you, O God, I will pay thanksgiving to you” thanksgiving is not written here, but thanksgiving, thanksgiving, and a sacrifice of thanksgiving.
Leviticus Rabbah 9:7
Unfortunately, there is a problem with the site and the questions and responses are not reaching me. The preview is already here.
It does not say that only plants should be offered. Indeed, in a thanksgiving offering there is an addition of bread and matzoh, but the offering itself is an animal.
The point clarified in the Midrash is that what will remain is only what is related to the thanksgiving to God, and therefore a thanksgiving offering is not invalid, and not because it is from plants. In any case, there is no reason to establish that only the bread of thanksgiving will remain.
The site glitch is still ongoing and I don't see any comments. I missed this again.
As for the question itself, I remember seeing it once. But now I tried searching and only found this.
Anyway, it really is written here. I saw that people argue and prove from this that the cancellation of the sacrifices here is not a result of animal cruelty. I'm not at all sure about this. But in any case, we see in this midrash that in practice only one sacrifice will remain, meaning that most of the sacrifices are canceled (possibly also or only because of the tsaba'ah). A person decides when and if to bring a sacrifice of thanksgiving.
And for our purposes, if this contradicts the eternity of the Torah, then this midrash is definitely a relevant source. Why doesn't the cancellation of the rest of the sacrifices contradict the eternity of the Torah? Like the commandments of the future.
In any case, if the Sages could demand the cancellation of sacrifices for their own reasons, I don't see why it is not possible to demand the cancellation of sacrifices on behalf of the Tza'ba.
In the meantime, the Rabbi can use this page
https://mikyab.net/%d7%a9%d7%95%d7%a0%d7%95%d7%aa/%d7%aa%d7%92%d7%95%d7%91%d7%95%d7%aa-%d7%90%d7%97%d7%a8%d7%95%d7%a0%d7%95%d7%aa
I use it. But until I discovered it, I probably missed some comments.
In the book of Esau, you will not forget from the mouth of his seed
It cannot be said that sacrifices will be abolished in the future as it is meant to be, for the prophet Isaiah foretells: ‘And I will bring them to my holy mountain and make them joyful in my house of prayer, their burnt offerings and their sacrifices of acceptance upon my altar, for my house shall be called a house of prayer for all peoples’. So there will also be burnt offerings and sacrifices in the future.
And even in the days of the first Adam, when humans were forbidden to eat animals, – Abel renewed the law that animals could be sacrificed. Perhaps this is why they killed Cain, claiming that slaughtering the firstborn of his sheep was the same as murder, but the Creator of the world agreed with Abel's renewal and turned to his offering.
And perhaps the Midrash's intention is for individual sacrifices, whether those that come for sin or those that come as alms, which will not be necessary, since in the reformed world people will not sin (or almost never sin), even in the voluntary offerings there is an element of atonement, since the offering comes to atone for the contemplation of the heart, and there will be no (or almost no) failures in this in the reality of "And the Lord has circumcised your heart"
Only the public sacrifices will remain, the sacrifices of the Tamid, the Sabbaths and the festivals, and as Solomon said to King Tyre (Dehi”2 2) about these sacrifices "for ever this is for Israel". In this reformed reality, in which there are no sins that require atonement, only the sacrifices of thanksgiving will remain.
With blessings, Nehorai Shraga Agami-Psisowitz
Isaiah was in the First Temple, and perhaps prophesied about the Second Temple.
B”D’ Laitanim P”B
L’Midrashya’ – Shalom Rav,
In the second house was the ‘beginning’ of the fulfillment of the prophecy about the gathering of the outcasts of Israel and the beginning of the influence of Judaism on the nations of the world, but still most of Israel remained in exile and most of the world remained idolatrous.
The full fulfillment of Isaiah's prophecy will be when ‘the mountain of the house of the Lord will be established on the top of the mountains… and all the nations will flow to it’ to learn from the ways of the God of Israel, and then ‘nation will not lift up sword against nation, neither will they learn war anymore’.
Then the complete gathering of the exiles will take place, and then the purpose will be fully fulfilled: ‘Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be offered as a pleasing aroma on My altar, for My house will be called a house of prayer for all peoples’.
In the blessing of Shabbat Teva, Nasha”ef
Simply put, the avoidance of the Temple business is not justified by the special nature of the Temple, but rather a sweeping avoidance of innovations and shocks. Most of the minyan and the building also avoids the halachah, although the identification is probably quite convincing. The common side of the two is that the commandments and the commandments are naturally displaced, and even more so for a major change such as the renewal of the Temple in our generation, "I will not be a halachah, but I will be a halachah, etc."
In my opinion, there is great benefit in establishing the Temple today, precisely according to the words of the Maimonides in the Book of Mormon. It is true that today sacrifices are not made on altars to demons, but many of the public flock to Uman, Meron, Lizansk, etc. and approach the 'Dorshak al-Muthim'. Wouldn't it be better if instead, they would make a pilgrimage three times a year to the Temple, where at least it would be clear that they are serving Hashem (even if it is not the highest level of work)?
I know that theoretically they could do both, but I imagine that if the pilgrimage were to be the same as it once was, the desire to look for other places would subside. I wrote at greater length in English, here: https://torahclarity.blogspot.com/2016/09/he-has-no-physical-form.html
Shalom Rabbi
At the time, I asked you in a response on the site about the following things and I think it is worth bringing them up as part of the discussion here for the benefit of readers and commenters.
Starting at minute 19 in the video: the words of Rabbi Shmuel Nadel (son of the legendary Rabbi Gedaliah Nadel) regarding the idea of renewing the work of sacrifices in our time - things that caused an uproar and astonishment in the audience.
He quoted a friend who told him that “God is doing us a favor by preventing us from doing the work of sacrifices” and see what he quoted there in this context in the name of the prophet:
https://youtu.be/RaWre07qA8Y
Hello Rabbi.
First of all, I must admit that I appreciated the Rabbi more before I read this article. What I read was a premise, fundamentally emotional, and ostensibly halachic “rational” excuses for why it is correct. I find it hard to believe that the Rabbi believes the arguments that the Rabbi has put forward [for example, I find it hard to believe that the Rabbi, as a clear rationalist, would hold to the “method” (it is hard to say that this is the method of Rashi, who wrote this once, compared to dozens of sources that wrote the opposite) of Rashi and Tosafot. Does the Rabbi really think that He will bring down a temple from heaven?]
In my opinion, the Rabbi has here turned the point of the mitzvah into the main point and because of it found an excuse for why not to keep it. I find it hard to believe that a halachic discussion originating in verses and the sages of the Rabbi would have reached the same conclusion. Hundreds of commandments, a book and a half of the Torah, and an entire Seder in Shas, because there is no spiritual longing. Perhaps the rabbi needs to study in depth the essence of the Temple and find the spiritual longing for it.
In the days of David, the Temple was not built until a plague came [Ramban]. In the second house, a prophet was needed to shout at the people who claimed that “the time has not come for the house of the Lord to be rebuilt” the verse “is it time for you to live in your houses,– and this house is a ruin?!”. Diaspora Jewry did not miss the land until the Holocaust. And have we not learned the lesson yet?
Second thing – The main work of the Temple activists [among whom I am] is public awareness. Trying to make the public understand what we have lost. So what the rabbi wrote that there is no point in building the Temple when the public does not want to is not an excuse not to join the above organizations. For example, the rabbi is invited to visit the Temple Institute [located in the Jewish Quarter near the steps to the Western Wall], which is the most serious and oldest body for promoting the construction of the Temple, and to see that the main work is activities in schools, public awareness for visitors and publishing books and materials for the public. Does the rabbi also think that there is no value in this? Making the people of Israel want to observe about 200 commandments of the Torah?
With the blessing of “You shall not be afraid of anyone”
Someone.
First, I am glad that your mistaken impression of me has been corrected.
Second, I explained my position well. If you see only emotions there, that is your interpretation. It is difficult for me to deal with unfounded and unreasoned claims that ignore what I write.
Regarding the Temple descending from heaven, I did not say that I adopt Rashi's method. What I wrote is that this mystical claim expresses a principled position similar to my own (that God is the one who should decide whether the Temple will be built or not).
Who spoke about the meaning of the mitzvah? Where did you see any of that in my words?
Perhaps I am supposed to study in depth what a Temple is, but I do not see how to do so. The exhibitions are probably good for the schools, and may it be good for their and your health. I do not see how they contribute to the fundamental questions.
The claim of lack of spiritual longing (a bit of an understatement) does not mean that there is no mitzvah, but that I do not find it appropriate to focus on it. When it becomes relevant and you see that I refuse to participate, we will talk.
And finally, I did not understand how all this is related to ”You shall not live”.
If the public is mostly secular Jews, and most of them are, then the collective is also secular Jews and as such is obligated to observe public commandments just as a secular Jew is obligated to observe the Sabbath. Isn't that right?
My argument was exactly this: A collective is different from an individual. The existence of an individual is a biological fact, but a collective exists only if it functions from a shared collective consciousness. When there are many Jews, and even in recent generations when some of them function as a collective, as long as it does not function as a Jewish collective, there is no factor here that deserves the name ‘Clal Yisrael’. A Jewish person is the son of a Jewish mother, but a Jewish collective is not just a collection of Jews.
Would your opinion regarding the whole of Israel be correct for other commandments, say, a shemita?
That is, even if the whole nation is present, is there no whole of Israel that is obligated?
A bit difficult from the First Temple and the halachic perception that they were punished for canceling shemita then.
It is not clear to me why today you perceive that there is no collective but then there was (certainly at a time when the kingdom was divided)
Zimamer that Shmita is a law in the community and not in most individuals? In any case, if it is a law in the community, then my words are also intended for that. I think I wrote this explicitly about the “don't be greedy” of sovereignty (not of ownership), both in the context of political agreements and in the context of the permit recognizing Shmita.
The main thing that distinguishes our situation today is that there is no general connection to G-d and the Torah. In my opinion, this has never been the case (even when they worked on the G-d, it was a rebellion against G-d. He was always present there). Even when the kingdom is divided, this must be discussed (it depends on the question of whether it is possible for part of the people of Israel to function as a separate Jewish collective).
A. “Maybe it’s even worth adding some kind of thanksgiving psalm to the laments on Tisha B’Av for the destruction. Now I thought this was a possible explanation for the surprising melody that joins the piyyut “Eli Zion ve Aria” towards the end of the laments…”. I laughed like I haven’t laughed in a long time…
B. You probably wrote unintentionally: “We do not have a Temple, and therefore there is no dilemma of sacrifices”. After all, the simple law is “that sacrifices are made even though there is no Temple” (Megillah 10:1 and more; Rambam Beit Bechirah 6:15). Of course, there are several delays that the poskim have cited (and others have rejected), but the lack of a Temple does not concern the offering of sacrifices. Just for the sake of illustration, I will quote the words of Maharat Hayut (reply to the author): “In any case, I have reviewed all sides, and I have not found anything that prevents today from offering a Passover sacrifice, since an altar will be built today on a place that was originally built.”
C. Although there are some midrashim that imply that the Temple descended from heaven, there are also midrashim that contradict**. And the midrashim that lean toward a heavenly Temple have also been interpreted in various ways (such as, for example, that there are two options, or that a heavenly Temple will come as an additional floor to the earthly Temple, etc., as cited, among other things, in the poskim on Sukkah 4:1 and 5:3). In any case, it can be said that it is agreed that one does not learn from the words of a legend (Yerushalmi Paha 2:4; Hagiga 1:8 and cited by the Geonim and poskim throughout the generations), and as far as I know, you do not disagree with this.
Rabbi Goren wrote some very clear things about this matter (Torat HaMo'edim, 1984, p. 472): “It is possible to say both according to the Rambam”s method and according to Rashi and his followers, that this does not concern us, because we are under the mitzvah to build the House of Choice whenever we have the possibility to do so. And if in the future it comes down from heaven, that is good, but this belief does not exempt us from fulfilling the mitzvah as long as the House does not come down from heaven, and there is a real possibility of its construction by man”.
** “When the King Messiah, who is in the north, awakens, he will come and build the Behemoth” (In Midbar Rabbah (Vilna), Parashat Nasa, Parasha 13:2; Song of Songs Rabbah (Vilna), Parasha 4; Leviticus Rabbah (Vilna), 20:6), and in Yerushalmi (Megillah 1:11) it is given in a different version: “When the exiles who are in the north awaken and come and build in the land that is in the south”; “Bar Kapra taught: The work of the righteous is greater than the work of heaven and earth, as in the work of heaven and earth – it is written: My own hands laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand spread out the heavens, while in the work of the hands of the righteous – it is written: A place for your dwelling, the work of the Lord ’ the temple of the Lord, which your hands have established’ (Ketubot 5:1) [And the same Rashi who supposedly advocates a heavenly temple wrote on a website: “The temple – is the work of the righteous”].
D. There is no halachic source for the commandment to build the temple being imposed on a king. On the contrary – The Second Temple was built without a king (as described in the Book of Ezra). Even in the days of Yehoshua ben Hananiah, they tried to renew the building of the temple without a king (Bereishit Rava (Vilna) Parashat Toldot, Parasha 3d, Signum 10, and is also cited by scholars). And the words of Rabbi Acha are well known (Yerushalmi Ma'aser Sheni 5:2): “This means that the temple is to be built before the kingdom of the House of David”. By the way, some believe that the government today has the law of a king, for example, the Rabbi: “And besides this, it seems that while there is no king, since the laws of the monarchy are everything that concerns the general state of the nation, these victories of the laws return to the nation as a whole. And in particular, it seems that every judge who stands up in Israel also has the law of a king, regarding some laws of the monarchy, and especially what concerns the leadership of the community (Response to Cohen's Law, Affairs of the Land of Israel, s’ Kamed).
Speaking of the Rabbi, important things he wrote:
“Here, as we have already seen, there is nothing in the principles of the faith or in its branches that would dissuade us from the idea that the beginning of our shaking off the dust of our exile will be according to our efforts in the ways of nature and the course of history, from which arises the decision that it is a sacred duty to strive for this with all that we can. And here are the words of Chazal, which are taught in countless places, and are explained in the famous Yerushalmi Demescher Sheni, “This means that the building of the Temple preceded the kingdom of the House of David”” (Otsrot HaRai”5 2, p.’ 929).
A little more from Rav Kook:
“We long for the pre-eminence and perfection, and the longings are divine longings… kingdom and temple, priesthood and prophecy, which leave their mark on all the possessions of life that include… Of material heroism, of human morality, of national honor, of popular wealth, and of the expansion of life, it demands of us such a quality of life, that the most excellent and wonderful spiritual gems of all the people on earth, which are found in our national soul, can be embedded within it, perfecting its beauty and adding to it courage and heroism in its interior, and majesty and glory in its exterior. Our ideology of the perfection of our life, which is so distant and wonderful, is also close and tangible in our entire soul, as long as we are not preoccupied with forgetting and as long as we hear our inner voice, which draws us to give place to the memories that make it alive even in the days of its lowliness, when it is painful to be away from the land of its voice (Orot Ha-Tahiya 5).
And more on the importance of the Temple (a few of the sayings of Chazal):
1. “About work, how? As long as the service of the Temple exists, the world is blessed. Have you learned that there is no work that is more beloved before the Holy One, blessed be He, than the service of the Temple? (Avot Darbi Nathan, Nusha 1, Chapter 4).
2. “Once Rabban Yochanan ben Zakkai was leaving Jerusalem, and Rabbi Yehoshua was following him, and he saw the Temple destroyed. Rabbi Yehoshua said: Woe to us that it is destroyed, a place where the sins of Israel are atoned for” (Avot Darbi Nathan, Nusha 1, Chapter 4).
3. “And there is nothing but the Temple…. Why is it called Lebanon that whitens the sins of Israel, as it is said: If your sins are like years, they will be as white as snow” (Deuteronomy 6).
4. “Since the destruction of the Temple, the dew of the groves and the fields of Tzofim have been removed, and the people of Amana have decreed… From the day the Temple was destroyed, there has been no day that has not been cursed, and the dew has not descended as a blessing and has taken away the taste of the fruits” (Mishnah Sota 9:12).
5. “From the day the Temple was destroyed, an iron wall was broken between Israel and their Father in heaven” (Berachot Lev 1:2).
5. “Thus the Temple is the life of the Land of Israel” (Pesikta Zutrata (Good Lesson) Song of Songs 7:3).
There is also no doubt that those who experienced the Temple felt deep sorrow for its destruction, as is often mentioned in Chazal (a matter that has been translated into many laws), in Josephus, and others. Perhaps it is incumbent on the judge of today to trust the judge of the past whose eyes he truly saw…
E. Your explanation regarding the fact that there is no public today is extremely new and quite vague. I don't think that such a thing can be relied on without a strong foundation in the sources.
The explanation is especially surprising in light of your belief that the mitzvah of secular (complete) people is a ’monkey act’ and has no halakhic significance (that's how I remember it, forgive me if I'm confusing). In any case, it is necessary to assume that the halakhic code of Israel (to paraphrase the 3:1 – “I am a public assembly”) does not include them.
F. The passive conclusion is also not so simple, since this is not a minor mitzvah that we can be satisfied with having done by others or something like that. The Temple is a central element in both the Written and Oral Torah, even if at the moment the reason is not clear enough (however, many have already tried to explain in modern language the essence and importance of the work of sacrifices as well as the various works in the Temple**).
** Moshe Rat and Shahar Friedman, ‘The Renewal of Sacrifices in the Modern World’, Ayat Ma'veev Website; Rabbi Amnon Dukov, ‘My Longing for the Temple’, Until I Find a Place, Yeshiva Otniel Publishing; Rabbi Eran Moshe Margalit, ‘Closer to the World of the Temple and Sacrifices’, Ma'lin Bekodesh 10, pp. 56-69; Rabbi Sharlo has written extensively about this online.
A very biased response, which at least partly ignores what I wrote.
B. I mentioned the halacha that sacrifices are made even though there is no house. I wrote that in practice they do not do this and here too there is an absolute majority of opinions not to do this in practice for various reasons, and therefore there is no dilemma.
C. I also addressed this. I did not mean literally that the temple would fall from the sky. And when a lot of excuses are written about something, it only means that none of them are convincing. For example, excuses for why the Book of Ruth is read on Shavuot and Esther on Purim.
It is very strange to me that after you bring up that there are a lot of excuses about Rashi in the Sukkah, you brought up Rashi's words about the Temple being made by the righteous without bringing up the required Pharisee (which is not an excuse), that it is thanks to the work of the righteous. Or will we have a Bible that says that where there are tendencies, contradictions are only useful (because anything can be deduced from them).
D. I did not invent the claim that ”king” means a central Jewish government, and not a king in the literal sense. This is very common, certainly in religious Zionism, which talks about the return of the kingdom to Israel. It is a public commandment.
Beyond that, there is an order to the three commandments that were commanded to Israel upon their entry into the land. See, for example, a review here: https://asif.co.il/download/kitvey-et/zolden/mlcot/1_7.pdf
I have already answered here more than once that before explaining what the Temple is without sacrifices, there is no point in discussing it. One can sail in its praises and provide many stories about what will happen when it exists. The question is whether the intention is not to establish a cultural center in Kfar Saba where Hasidic music will be played and Mesilat Yesharim lessons will be given. Sailing into the meaning of the Temple without saying what exactly is supposed to happen in it is pointless and is not a basis for discussion.
E. How terrible and wonderful are the ways of the trend-setting. The actions of secularists are like the actions of a monkey, and therefore there is a general Israeli public?
C. No excuses. Some midrashim say that it will be built by man, and some say that it will be built by heaven. Especially in such situations is the *agreed upon* rule (including you) that one does not learn halakha from agga. Furthermore, in my opinion, when there is an apparent contradiction, an attempt to unify the opinions is most reasonable, and in fact quite common (“Those who are in disagreement do not understand”).
Regarding Rashi, he himself wrote in many places that the Temple will be built by man: Ezekiel (33:11), Ecclesiastes (5:9), Sukkah (25:24-25), Exodus (25:9), and more (as cited in the article ‘Temple by Man – Rashi”s Method’ on the Temple Institute website). Especially in light of this, but also just like that, your interpretation of his interpretation (that the Temple will be built *by virtue* of the deeds of the righteous) is very, very narrow. Moreover, if we assume that Rashi is consistent, then we can say that his unusual interpretation on Rosh Hashanah and in the Sukkah is a specific explanation for the excuse for the course of the Gemara, and as is known, the course in the Gemara that Rashi excused by a Temple from heaven is one course in the Gemara, while the alternative course (of Rav Nachman) is the one that was brought into the halakha.
In any case, the bottom line is that it doesn't really matter what Rashi wrote or thought, all that matters is that the agreed upon halakha (by all the enumerators of the mitzvot without exception) is that there is a mitzvah to build a Temple.
And as for what you wrote that you don't learn from the midrashim that the Temple came down from heaven but that you don't have to be active - that's already a midrash for a midrash.
D. I didn't quite understand what you said. My argument is that whether a king is a real king, or a king is any elected body, there is no basis for the assertion that we need a king in order to build a temple. The precedents also prove the opposite.
Regarding the assertion that today there is “no public”:
The chapters of the Return to Zion teach us the opposite. The exiles hurried to build the temple even though the spiritual state was, according to Hebrews, very poor. The vast majority of the people remained in exile (Ezra 2:2; Yoma 9:2), and even the few immigrants were from the people (Yevamot 37:1; Kiddushin 7:2). Likewise, mass assimilation took place in the land (Ezra 9-10; Nehemiah 13; Malachi 2:10-12) and the Sabbath was desecrated in public (Nehemiah 13). Likewise, Torah knowledge among the people was extremely poor (Nehemiah, 8), and even social injustices were not absent (Nehemiah 5).
In other words, if there is no public today, then there was no public in Ezra's time either. But here we see that they did build a temple, and especially remember the cry of the prophet Haggai (1:2-4) — “Thus says the Lord of hosts, saying: This people say, “It is not time to come to the house of the Lord to build’. And the word of the Lord came to them, By the hand of Haggai the prophet, saying: “Is it time for you to sit in your houses with ships, and this house is a desolation?””.
Regarding the order – the Gemara writes that it is a mandatory order upon entering the Land, nothing more. The explanations of how everything took place throughout the generations are only ‘required’. I will especially mention that during the return to Zion they did not exterminate any Amalek nor did they establish a king (or any other governing body), since there was no independent rule at all for the few Jews who immigrated to the Land, the rule was completely Persian.
I also did not understand the matter of a temple without sacrifices. I did not write about that. The mitzvah is to build a temple with sacrifices (what will actually happen, no one knows, but in any case, this is the mitzvah that is imposed on us).
E. I did not get to the end of your answer and therefore I will repeat my argument: If in your opinion there is no halakhic significance in the fact of the mitzvah of secular people, why should they be counted when we come to discuss the level of commitment of the public to the Torah?
In any case, I reiterate my words that the very demand for one kind of commitment or another and any other spiritual condition is unfounded and even contradicts the precedents.
Rabbi, maybe because of the glitch you missed the response. I would appreciate your response.
I saw your words and saw nothing in them that was not answered.
C. There is no point in repeating this over and over again. I did not write that there is no commandment in the law to build a Temple. I only wrote about the activism.
D. Building the Temple is a public duty, and the institution of the public that is supposed to carry it out is called a king (=Jewish government). That is all.
I claimed that there is no Jewish public is not related to the level of fear of God of the public. The question is whether the public conducts itself within the framework of the law or not. Even idolaters of the past rebelled against the Torah and the Holy One. Today, no one rebels. The Holy One and the Torah are not on the same page at all.
Regarding the order – I referred you to Rabbi Zoldan’s article.
E. I am not counting secular people but rather looking at whether there is a public today that conducts itself in a Jewish manner. My answer is negative.
Dear Rabbi, may the strength be with you for the things that are right, like cold water to a tired soul! Finally, there are righteous Jews who put things on the table without a hiccup or a whimper.
Happy New Year and a good signature
Indeed, like lukewarm water on an old soul. Happy New Year to all of us.
“Just as I wouldn't want something that goes against my views to be forced on me, I expect that something that fits my views not to be forced on others. And no, this is not a practical argument (i.e., out of fear of being forced upon me) but a moral one: the moral imperative says that it is not appropriate to force people (and as the categorical imperative says, the fact that I would not want to be forced upon me is only the indication of this”.
Who has heard of such a thing, who has seen such a thing. I would not want to be forced upon me to do things that I oppose, and I would happily force others to do things that I support. Your moral argument seems to me to be analogous to the statement that police officers will not handcuff thieves because we would not want thieves to handcuff police officers. Just as I must force myself to do a certain thing, so I have exactly the same obligation to force others. When there is an agreement of mutual non-coercion, it is an anti-moral, self-interested agreement that prefers peace over right – the wolves make excuses and slaughter the lamb.
I watched these things. 🙂
[The truth is that I felt it was unnecessary to write, but such provocations cannot pass in silence 🙂 ]
The purpose of a temple is the inspiration of the Shekhinah. The inspiration of the Shekhinah means that the Holy One walks among us (He can also walk without a temple, but on a more faded level). That is, visible providence. It has an operative meaning. Miracles. Especially in wars. I would gladly organize this bloodbath if the meaning of this is the usual artillery bombardment of the Holy One (“And they (complete the missing)”. In the case of Moses, Joshua, Barak and Deborah, Samuel, David. Apparently it was a lightning storm in which the lightning struck the enemy camp. ) before the assault of the ground forces. The problem is that even the people who initiate these temple projects have no understanding of this and they act from their ego as usual (which is the barrier to the inspiration of the Shekhinah). People like to do important things to give meaning and importance to their lives (which is fine) and to advance their social status. But what about the Kibbutz and that? This is true for all sorts of other important enterprises (really). For example, Zionism. It is really possible to see how all our national leaders do not care at all about the people of Israel (they are not aware of this. But it emerges and is revealed every time in a time of test) but only about their personal advancement or their moral posturing (the top of the IDF and law enforcement systems) and we, from their point of view (again, unconsciously) are their slaves. The left also stopped being Zionists because of ego. For example, the settlement – as soon as it was no longer the ”section that was only theirs” – religious Zionism got into the business – they became enemies of the settlement to the point of post-Zionism (this is the new section).
To this we must add that there are people like Rabbi Michi who have stomachaches from the word "miracles" and that this is something primitive for them (indeed, this gut feeling should be addressed and so on. But such people, with their usual autistic nature, do not like to look within themselves) and in any case, what is the point of starting the discussion about whether there is (or can be) providence or not when the other side does not want providence and will work hard to prevent it from appearing because it is primitive to their taste (and does not even bother to look for how it can be non-primitive). "Those who say to God, 'Depart from Him, and we do not desire the knowledge of Your ways'"
Aren't you afraid that without the authority of the Rabbinate over the institution of marriage, couples could marry illegally and have bastard children? Or, God forbid, there would be illegal conversion that would lead to assimilation?
These things are happening today because of the rabbinate. I have written about this many times.
I have much to say about this column (and in particular about the distortion of some of my words in note [1], and about that another time in the book), but time does not permit me to elaborate.
Therefore, I will limit myself to the question: Did you, as part of the changes in halacha that you are promoting, delete the Musfin prayers from the siddurim and the Machzorim? After all, the main content of the Musfin prayer (except for Reh and Yehovah) is a request for the building of the Temple and the restoration of the sacrificial service. (It is unnecessary to quote, these texts are familiar to every worshiper.) It is unacceptable to me that you stand before the Holy One and mumble a text with your mouth when your heart is not with you in the sense of “And they shall deceive him with their mouths and with their tongues they shall deceive him.” And their heart was not right with Him, and they did not believe in His covenant. (Psalms 38:6-7). True, according to your opinion there is nothing to learn from the Bible, but still – when you stand in prayer before the Holy One, whom do you worship?
But surely you will answer me – Phil to the end of the verse: “He is merciful, He will forgive iniquity and will not destroy, and will abundantly repay, and will not stir up all His wrath” … (ibid., ibid. 38). Ah, see.
Happy New Year to you, your family and the entire Jewish people.
I think I explained it well. I ask as commanded but do not wish. Are you suggesting that I lie to myself? Even if I wanted to, I cannot (and do not want to). Alternatively, there is of course the way of the prophets who were modest in praising the Holy One, since He sealed the truth and a liar will not stand before Him. But I did not think that my feelings and perceptions were so unequivocal that it warranted a change in the wording of the prayer, and I explained in the column why.
Happy New Year to you and your family too.
And it was revealed through private providence that the column dealing with the building of the house is number 412 as the house number.
And that's without mentioning,
that”Michael David Abraham” in the Gematria “Messiah”
How lucky that ”Michael” is still with Hyde
And without the Lord, ’Michael David Abraham”, it is in gematria “Simcha” – acronyms of the four tenets of faith:
Shulchan Aruch, Mikveh, Hatzot, Thavuddut
I meant that if Michael abandons Hyde (the letter Yod, Yiddishkeit), then there will no longer be a "Messiah" to bring the halacha out of obscurity into clarity, because there is a limit to how far one can publish if they also want things to be considered.
Yes, I understood that, that was actually the stinging mouth.
These are the principles accepted by the Breslov Hasidim, who emphasized the issue of the ”Yid”… above all else
Rabbi Michi
Read http://inbari.co.il/stone.pdf. I think it will speak to you.
But if you enter into the considerations you raised, I will add similar considerations. Would you be willing to restore the impurity of a nida and isolate it in the house of impurity? Prevent a nida from going out into the public domain unless she declares that she is impure (according to the Maimonides, all those who impure a person should be called impure), prevent any possibility of public transportation because every car is a seat and a vehicle? Prevent all imports because everything created abroad is impure with the impurity of the land of the nations?
Restore the laws of companies with the social tension inherent in them? And according to the Maimonides, their entire purpose is social tension.
There is no such thing as the least. We can definitely expand on this.
Can you tell me where the midrash cited in note 2 is located?
https://mikyab.net/posts/73396#comment-54990
So how do we pray? Our prayers are not like the chirping of a starling, they are a lie to Heaven.
As the rabbi noted, the drive to build a temple is also relevant to our day when it comes to the push to build the Temple in our day. But if I may add, prayer is also based on sacrifices (we pray “and the daily sacrifices we make and fight, etc.”) and therefore this issue is also relevant to those who choose the passivity that you mention in the summary!
The answer is that a Sanhedrin that will be established in the future will be able to change the law and the prayer will be fixed by the members of the Great Knesset.
The absurdity is that today there is no ability to assemble a Sanhedrin because there is no Temple, but there is no Temple because none of the rabbis aspires to it. Thus, there is a religion that is stuck without progress and people (perhaps like you) who pray to things they do not believe in – offering sacrifices?
I think we need to distinguish between 3 parts of the Temple commandment –
A. Building the Temple. B. Offering sacrifices. C. Animal sacrifices.
The moral reservation today is almost exclusively from stage C.
One can use the above arguments – a commandment for the public (which certainly exists in my opinion, but that's a different discussion), the court will come down from heaven, we will wait for the possibility of changing the law – in an almost artificial and very purposeful way in order to evade stage C, but there is no reason to do this in order to move forward from the current situation.
There is a very long way between the current situation and the stage where (current) human morality is revolting. I don't think there is a need to be pushed into such biased interpretation and action before reaching the intersection where the plain law of the law and modern morality separate.
Maimonides, at the end of the Laws of Misuse, writes exactly the opposite of what you said.
This has already been commented on. I swapped it with the .
Yethi and not Achaemenid, because no one really wants to go back in time.
Would I agree with the following quote?
It can be argued that the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem by Titus in 70 CE, following the Jewish revolt, is the most significant factor in the very slow
change in religion, to which we owe, among other things, European
culture. The Jews must surely thank Titus, whom they remember as abhorrent, for destroying their Temple a second time and for forcing them against their will to free themselves from sacrifice and its ritual violence,
before any other society. “Against their will”, because they seem to have immediately agreed to
the proposal of Julian, the new Cyrus, to rebuild the Temple
three hundred years or more after it was destroyed
Every time I ask myself again, when I look online, am I not passing over “and do not turn after your own heart”? As the first commentary on Halacha wrote, “After your heart” refers to distorted and false opinions, and the truth is, I am more correct to abstain. Since Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky passed away, I have withdrawn from all news of this world, both from the visual, auditory, and written media in newspapers and online (to the point that if I happen to be on a short trip with my wife and she wants to hear a minute of news, I am unable to even hear their voice without the content. It is like someone who has quit smoking and is unable to smell the smell of a cigarette). Therefore, I have not even visited the posts here for a moment to glance (as it is written: “Gabi Bitul Torah ha-taif ei-nih wa-inu” [“I am tired of the Torah being discarded,” “I am not,” “I am nothing].” In the past, I was really addicted to the news (and to general education and philosophy) and I knew how to interpret the future better than the multitude of commentators I would listen to in vain. And thank God that I have quit. Believe me, I have such a good and peaceful life. I have never experienced what a person lacks when he can reach a state where he is locked in his house and studies only Torah for 14 hours (if it is Gemara in detail). So there are no words at all that can be used to describe here on this dark platform of emotions) and work and connecting with the mind and emotion to the work of morality and the work of virtues. There is happiness and fun and pleasures in life. I don't know more than that. There is so much to learn and know that it is simply a waste of all of our time when we get to the top. And as it is written in the Midrash about the great test in the Valley of Jehoshaphat, God Almighty will ask us what is false. He who has a Bible in his hand and no mishap, etc. Until the Merkava incident, see there later. It is really unpleasant, but now Tisha B'Av 5782, when it is forbidden to study, I wanted to write some insight to Rabbi Michael regarding my personal experience with the natural sciences. Then I stumbled upon a column here and saw the Rabbi's distinction that now he does not connect with the work of sacrifices, but it is possible that in the future, when the Temple is built, he will experience something different. And I remembered that a few days ago I happened to glance (I am currently working on another tractate) at the Gemara Bava Metzia in the story that the Gemara tells about the difference between the torments of Rabbi Elazar ben R. Shimon, called the agony of love, who could tell them to go away from me in the morning, do not disturb me in my studies, and the agony of a Rabbi who could not do so because they came by deed and went by deed. What was the deed for which they came upon him? Once, while he was walking, a calf got into his coat that ran away from those who wanted to slaughter him, and the Rabbi said to him, "Go, for this is what you were created for," and in heaven they saw this as some kind of flaw of cruelty in relation to the rank of a Rabbi and gave him 13 years of suffering (stones in the urinary tract to the extent that it is said that the Rabbi's horse keeper would adjust the time for his many horses to eat, the sound of their hooves being heard up to three parsa's away, for the time that Rabbi went into the bathroom so that they would not hear his screams in his suffering, and it did not help, the sound of his screams was louder than the sounds of his horses). Then, while studying, I think to myself, if this had happened to me, given how I know myself, I would have seemingly pitied him, and if he had a young and cute face like a puppy. Or cats in general, I would pet him, and maybe even cry for him, and then I say to myself, "Are you more merciful than a Rabbi?" It is impossible, after all, if I were to find myself in the four corners of a Rabbi's house right now, I would be burned with holiness (see the Gemara there about one of the Amoraim who asked Elihu to show him in a vision (or in a dream) the condition of the saints of the Most High above, and warned him that Rabbi Chiya, in his own rank, could not watch him, and he could not help but glance and his eyes went wide. In connection with this, once the cantor's mind wandered in Brisk and he asked Rabbi Chaim if he could sing in the choir of King David? Rabbi Chaim Kayima answered him, "If King David were here, we would be burned with holiness, so think in your mind, "A cantor who burns in the choir of David who sings is what you can do") Let's get back to our business, Rabbi, and am I greater than a Rabbi? Didn't we just recently receive some notions of greatness at the funeral of Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky? How far we are from all virtue and measure in all matters, we have no idea. In general (anyone who wants to accept the weakness of mind and know their place, as they say, should go to YouTube and search for Rabbi Yisrael Schneor and see what happens there. I am sure that he will receive a generous portion of humility until he will be able to lead all the affairs of this world, including the discussions here). Then I thought to myself that probably these feelings of mine, which are supposedly more merciful than Rabbis, really do not originate from holiness, but from inappropriate places and foreign spirits that have infiltrated us because we opened ourselves outside the Beit Midrash. And identifying where they come from is not that difficult. We all know all the propaganda of various “animal cruelty” associations that have sprung up like mushrooms after the rain. I don’t know if there is even a grain of truth in them. The common side of all of them is that they and their actions are like animals that have become numb and have no idea of the greatness of man and his rank (and their understanding here is the place and time to strike while the iron is hot, there are five and not four types in creation, and they are still, living, growing, speaking, and Jewish. This understanding may make a few previous posts here redundant). Therefore, they see the themselves as animals without distinguishing between the two, and then it is difficult for them, what is the difference between them and animals? And from there comes their supposedly animalistic abstinence and not from any humane exaltation whatsoever (it is known about that great generation who saw the phenomenon in Germany before the Holocaust of concern for animals and read about them the verse “The sacrifices of men and calves shall be watered” which is what really happened in the end) and from there apparently comes the “foreign spirit” of my supposedly mercifulness and as the story of the Gemara continues there I received “confirmation” that indeed this is my correct distinction about myself, which continues there and tells what act caused the torment of the Rabbi to leave him? That once the Rabbi saw his maid wanting to take out a colony of rats from his house and said to her, Rabbi, why do you go and let them go? It is written, “And his mercy is over all his deeds.” And here the son asks if it is true that my feelings from a holy place will leave why if I were to encounter such a thing in my house, not only would I throw them to the winds, but I would also consume my anger at them And where have my feelings of compassion disappeared? (It is explained there in the commentaries that the lowest creature in creation is a rat. Everything that is on land is in the sea except for iron, as it is written, “Hear, you who dwell in iron.”) This means that the compassion of Rabbi is far, far beyond my imaginary visions, even to the lowest creature in creation, which I do not have and will never have (and what really, in the first place, did Rabbi Gabi think about the calf? It is also explained there in the commentaries that for human purposes it is written that it is permissible to pluck a feather from an animal for the purpose of cleaning or writing on it, and therefore Rabbi thought that even a calf is for eating and drinking, and the mistake is explained by the Maharsha that a calf in its youth is given for work and not for slaughter. Only after that, when it grows up, is it not the least bit of a problem? Look there. However, taking out a rat’s skin is not for any positive use, but simply bothers me, as they say, and disgusts me. Their existence here is compared to Rabbi, who is in the high degree of compassion that he had, and he did not say to his maidservant, “and his mercy is over all his deeds.”) Therefore, I do not I admire all our distance from all matters of sacrifices and the Temple. Don't worry, this testifies to our lowly status and not to any virtue whatsoever. And the rabbi is right that in the future, if he wins, when milk is removed from our baskets, we will understand how autistic we were. How "sick and does not feel" that a dangerous patient who does not know that he is sick, then his situation is much worse and more terrible than a patient who knows that he is sick.
In your past, you were interested in general education and philosophy, and you also knew how to interpret the future better than the interpreters, whereas today you are firmly convinced that a Jew is a different kind of person from the Gentiles, and you also have qualms about the evil instinct of pity for animals that sometimes creeps into your heart. It sounds like you are going backwards in atonement like the last of the eccentrics, and all you have to do is try to convince yourself (it turns out that you are probably quite easy to manipulate) that you are indeed successful and special. Pathetic.
My response was intended for the rabbi and not for a man without... I ask your forgiveness for being offended by the blessing I blessed today, just like yesterday, that I did not make you a chatty Gentile, did I not?