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Reflections on the Flag March on Jerusalem Day – A View from the Right (Column 714)

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Disclaimer: This post was translated from Hebrew using AI (ChatGPT 5 Thinking), so there may be inaccuracies or nuances lost. If something seems unclear, please refer to the Hebrew original or contact us for clarification.

I’m taking a break from the question of ta’ama de-kra and dedicating one short column to the Flag March in Jerusalem that will take place (though may it not be God’s will) tomorrow.

In recent days, voices have been heard—even from within the religious public—pointing to problematic public conduct, especially among the youth, during the Flag Dance. In response, accusations arise that this is left-wing influence and that we ought to be proud of our Judaism and rejoice over the conquest of Jerusalem, particularly its holy places. This reminds me of a personal experience I had at the Flag Dance, and perhaps I’ll start with that.

In my youth, like everyone, I came almost every year to Jerusalem on the eve of Jerusalem Day and joined the dancing from Merkaz HaRav on the way to the Western Wall. It was a good experience (and there were also girls, which didn’t hurt), and I don’t recall any difficult feelings. From then until today I’ve been there only once, about twenty-five years ago, together with my students from the Hesder Yeshiva in Yeruham. I remember that experience as a real trauma. I left shocked by what I saw and experienced there.

The march began in Kiryat Moshe, and along the way there were songs and dancing, and everything was fine. From some point on, when we reached the Old City, a rampage began with the flags and amid the dancing. Throngs of flushed and fired-up youths kicked property, smashed cars and shops, and of course harassed people—Arab residents who were standing on the sides. It was downright nauseating, and it did not stop. Every moment felt like a punch to the gut, and when I tried to rebuke the rioters my words fell on deaf ears. There was no one to talk to. Go try to admonish hundreds and thousands of rampaging people. I am far from being soft-hearted or especially sensitive, but I clearly felt I could not continue to be present at the atrocity unfolding there. My feeling was like that of someone witnessing a fascist riot, and in order not to arouse harsh associations I won’t detail historical examples.

It was evident that most of this crowd was made up of entirely normative boys and girls who were automatically swept up by the fascist-nationalist surge around them, like the dances around the Golden Calf. I must say these phenomena did not characterize a small minority. I didn’t check throughout the entire march, but from what I saw it was happening all the time and by many of the “dancers,” and of course with the tacit consent of all the rest. It was more a dance on the blood and on the head than a dance with flags. It reminds me of the “hate wedding” events (which took place many years later) that only sharpened the broader phenomenon that occurs every year at the Flag March, and my impression is that it is even worsening. I was very frustrated and refused to accept that I am part of this phenomenon and of the public that perpetrates (in both senses) it.

Since then I keep wondering whether, in my youth, I saw the same things but they didn’t bother me because I too was swept along, or whether there truly has been deterioration over the years. I think masterpieces like “May your village burn” hadn’t yet appeared then, and my sense is that indeed the situation is deteriorating. But perhaps not…

Since then, every year I recall that harsh trauma, and from time to time I write about it. Each time I wrote, I received responses saying I’m describing the conduct of a small minority, unjustifiably generalizing, and besmirching the entire event. But nothing has changed. What I saw with my own eyes was not a small minority. Far from it. And I’m not feeding off reports by antisemitic left-wing journalists. My own eyes saw it; it wasn’t secondhand.

Let me add a few necessary words of background. I’m sure the straightforward reader now accuses me of leftism, of succumbing to anti-religious and anti-Zionist media brainwashing, of progressivism, and other ills. This is the common division in our circles, and it’s also the ultimate way to avoid criticism. Still, I feel it’s worth adding some background that refutes the above. In my views I lean to the right, and in some cases even far to the right. I advocate a heavy hand toward terrorists and their helpers, and in my view, when necessary, we should not spare even non-combatants (obviously not arbitrarily). I’m against a hostage deal, for those interested, and I also advocate continuing the war until victory (and I also believe that’s possible, though of course I don’t have full information—who does?!). I also oppose many of the ideas labeled progressive. In addition, I’m definitely not among those who constantly lament that “the occupation corrupts.” One can’t deny there’s something to that claim, but I oppose drawing conclusions from that simplistic assertion. Indeed, occupation can corrupt, and sometimes it also leads us to do problematic things (though many accusations are false). But even if occupation corrupts, the question is what the alternative is. I don’t see a reasonable alternative without occupation. Thus much for the right-winger in me.

On the other hand, a right-wing, sober, moral person must understand that even if necessity is not to be condemned, we must not increase this corruption beyond what is necessary. There is certainly value in showing sovereignty in Jerusalem, and there’s nothing wrong with rejoicing over its liberation. Does that require wild condescension and abuse of everyone around? Even if there’s a need to occupy, is there value in rejoicing over the occupation and behaving like inconsiderate occupiers? Is breaking Arabs’ property part of the need for occupation? I’m not talking about the use of force when force needs to be used. There the debate between right and left takes place (why?). I’m talking here about ordinary, day-to-day conduct, such as rejoicing over the liberation of Jerusalem. In short, occupation corrupts, and therefore, although we should use it without hesitation, it should be done in as small a dose as possible.

Beyond the moral matter of proper and humane treatment of the stranger and the “other,” even if he is an enemy—and beyond the moral rot that improper treatment creates in our own souls and in those of our students—there’s also a tactical question here: does anyone really think this rampage will bring any benefit? Suppose we’re all right-wing; why do all this at all? Will the frustration and insult suffered by the Arab population bring us to a better situation? Has the attitude of the rest of Israel’s population toward a united Jerusalem and its liberation—and of course toward right-wing ideas generally—improved due to these riots? Go and see who even celebrates Jerusalem Day today. Who is present at that wild dance, apart from the religious public? No one. A few days ago, school principals issued a letter not to send students to this march. For many years now, secular youth hardly come to celebrate Jerusalem Day in any form, and certainly not at the march. And let’s not delude ourselves—it’s not only due to a lack of spiritual connection to the city. There is something very off-putting in these events, even for those who live within the religious public and certainly for those looking from the outside. For my part, I do not understand the religious parents and educators who do want that spiritual connection to Jerusalem yet abandon their children and send them to participate in such a terrible event. We have lost most of the public in Israel, who today see Jerusalem as a security problem, a place that arouses ultranationalism—a breeding ground for fascist-messianic rampage. A wondrous fusion of Haredi exploitation with religious-Zionist fascism. Even if these descriptions are sometimes exaggerated, the Flag March does nothing to disprove them or to reconnect the general public to Jerusalem.

I’ll ask it on a more basic level: even if we assume the answers to all the questions I raised are positive—this will indeed improve our situation, it is morally justified, and it will bring with it the identification of the entire public in Israel with Jerusalem and its liberation—my question is whether those who are rampaging there have even made this calculation. Is this conduct the product of judgment, or are we talking about a rampage and venting of nationalist-fascist urges? To me the answer is clear. It is clear to me that this outburst, at least in part, stems from anger over the atrocities inflicted on us by the brothers of those same Palestinians (in the style of that Simchat Torah a year and a half ago), and also from the impotence of the authorities and security forces in dealing with them. There may also be here a release valve for millennia-old frustration over the absence of sovereignty. And still, even if this phenomenon can be somewhat understood, I think the educational and moral damage of what happens in that Flag March is terrible and ghastly. I must say that precisely from the perspective of someone who advocates continuing the occupation and a tough stance toward those who seek our lives and their helpers, I feel it is our duty to stop this corrupting affair.

Some will say it’s better to repair from within: to participate in the march and try to restrain the rioters. Various calls have now been issued by rabbis and educators for proper conduct at the march (apparently they too share my alleged over-generalizations), but I very much doubt it will help. From my experience then, it’s very hard to gain a hearing during such a riot. We’re talking about a large, unbridled crowd that truly cannot and is not willing to listen to ethical talks amidst the rampage. Moreover, these admonitions are immediately branded “leftism,” heaven forfend. Well, if judgment, minimal morality, and opposition to fascism are leftism, and if “right” means unbridled fascism, then I too am a leftist.

Our sages taught us that there are things whose purification is by breaking them, and there are oxen for whom the only guarding is a knife. The Flag March should be annulled as dust of the earth, and whoever values his life should stay far from it. Only afterward can we perhaps think about a more balanced and sane version of it. Counselors, teachers, and rabbis who lead their students to that march, as well as public figures who participate in it, bear a large share of responsibility for these horrific phenomena. My feeling is that even the sensitivity threshold to such phenomena—even among those who don’t identify with them—has become very dulled. This march is a badge of shame for religious-Zionist education, though of course it does not encompass all of it.

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  1. Where do you get the idea that it was then that it was a common phenomenon at flag parades every year? I ask because I've simply missed this experience since high school, and even when I was in high school, I didn't encounter the things you describe.

    1. I have been participating in the parade, not continuously for many years, and I saw young men going wild, but
      They were few
      They came alone
      They didn't really destroy anything, they just went wild. Not that I liked it, but there were also many students from yeshivahs and ulafans who walked respectfully, and also many couples with children. So why cancel because of the handful?
      By the way, there were also quite a few secular people who were excited…

    2. My impression was quite similar in the years I participated. I would try to silence young people by saying that this is exactly the behavior that the foreign media that came to the scene wants to see. Not with great success. But I'm really not sure that this is the majority, so maybe a break is not necessary. Maybe greater participation of families, influence on young people through the yeshiva heads, more police presence or changes to the route would solve this problem.

    3. I was there this year, although I didn't see children destroying cars (maybe because after entering the Nablus Gate I was shocked and turned back), but in his eyes almost everyone who passed through the Nablus Gate tried to break into Arab shops and kicked them, and I don't think it would have been any different if there had been a car there and there were also stickers of Rabbi Kahane Tzedek.

  2. What a shame!
    I once heard the rabbi say that the Haredi public is afraid and does not use its right to give positive or negative “feedback” to the appointments of its rabbis, and this is the root of all its troubles, so we can say that among us, the rabbis are the ones who do not give feedback to the public's whims, and thus many things enter the mainstream and the consensus because they did not stop it in time (the same is true of the attitude of Hasidism and Leg BaOmer in Meron)

  3. This column is unbearably self-righteous. It would be better if the rabbi went to educate his leftist brothers from Kaplan about protecting property and beating people (remember how the protester beat Minister Dichter with an iron bar). Since when should we care about how the rest of the world or the rest of the secular public lacking identity and character (which in any case does not celebrate Jerusalem Day and is mentally disconnected from it) views us? They should not come. It is a real inferiority complex that classic religious Zionists have. The left will in any case look for other reasons to hate settlers and religious people (and will find them. If not, then they will hate us even more for it) and the right-wingers, the "sober" ones, and the liberals will always look for new reasons to bow down to them and tell them "I am pure".

    By the way, I don't know what the expression in the song "May your village burn down" means. Or at the wedding of hatred. Although in general, rampage is not to my taste, but since when is it forbidden to hate someone or wish someone death or rejoice in the death, especially of enemies? Just self-righteousness (intolerable, as mentioned).

    1. The problem with this is not the content itself (I also share the wishes for the fire, and not just the village) but the effect it has on the soul. A person who is constantly fueling feelings of hatred and war strengthens the dark sides of his soul, even if the object of hatred deserves it.
      Go out and see what happens to the ultra-Orthodox extremists who are constantly busy fanning the flames of "hatred of the wicked." They become people full of aggression and xenophobia and are harmful to society.

      1. How do you know that they are constantly fanning the flames of hatred in their hearts? It's one day a year. And it's better to live in hatred than to be a self-righteous and flatterer (someone who seeks approval for his behavior from other people and wants to be liked by them). Besides, it seems to me that the people of the left and their helpers from the ”sober”and”moral”right actually know very well how to fan the flames of hatred and war in their hearts against the Haredim and the Haredim day and night. They are no different from the people of the Jerusalem faction and Neturi Karta and behaved exactly like them during the period of protests against the Reform. And they are even endangering the security of the Jewish people here (Yair Golan, stockpiling weapons for civil war, etc.)

    2. Tzachi, are you serious?! I don't tend to respond, but you've caught me off guard.
      The fact that you wish your enemies dead is no problem for anyone. The problem is the unbridled rampage against the Arabs who are in the path of the parade. On what basis do you determine that they are enemies?! Does this determine your “character and identity”? Assuming yes, it turns out that you lack character, are a prisoner of passion, and are also stupid.

    3. How does all this relate to the Kaplanists? The fact that they are doing something problematic prevents criticism of a group that happens to be on the other side of some political axis?
      There is a call for self-reflection here, there is no need to involve brothers.

      1. Yes. It prevents criticism.

        A call for self-examination comes from someone who is part of a public and sees himself as part of it and truly wants its best interests. Since, psychologically, he has not been part of the public that marches in the parade for a long time, and certainly not the youth of the hills (for me, it seems that there is no difference at all between them and Arabs). So he is not in a position to call for self-examination. He beats the chest of others. The public to which he belongs psychologically is the liberal religious Zionist public. To put it another way, for me, it became clear, during the Reform period, that he himself belongs psychologically to the leftist camp, and therefore also adopts its progressive nonsense (which, being a liberal public, should abhor no less than the conservative public and even more, since progressives are in fact anti-individual liberties). And by his support in the High Court, he showed in my opinion that at least de facto he is not loyal to the historical Jewish national collective. The state (i.e. the power that comes with its institutions) is more important to him than the people of Israel, as it is with the secular leftist public (and perhaps in general the Ashkenazi).

        A true rightist (and in general a person who is not a liar) does not confuse his mind with “sobriety” or morality”. Not because they do not exist, but because he does not use them as feathers to decorate himself with. Since for rightists, sanity and morality are only basic conditions for something higher – for some purpose in life (similar to the Derech Eretz that preceded the Torah). Leftists who have no purpose in their world like to engage in decorating themselves with these feathers, because externality and emptiness are their world (essentially. This stems from their postmodern – progressive) faith. And because of this, they are busy day and night with the feathers of rightists (or the lack thereof).

  4. I was at the parade only once and didn't see the phenomenon, but it was 12 years ago, maybe I missed it?

    In any case, I saw a similar phenomenon when I was visiting an Arab village (Kapal Hirs) where, according to tradition (which one exactly?..) the grave of Joshua ben Nun and Caleb ben Jephunneh is located.

    I saw boys, under the protection of the army, rioting. One uprooted a tree in front of my eyes and ran.

    I felt very bad about it (and I am not suspected of being leftist, some call me extreme right-wing, whatever) and I realized that I did not want to take part in these things.

    It is good that you are raising the issue.

    Unfortunately, I think that the people who read your words and books in the first place are not happy with such behavior.

  5. I have been to the parade many times and am very skeptical about it for many reasons, but I must say that I have only encountered this kind of vandalism once. So the factual clarity of the column, in my humble opinion, is untrue.

  6. The trigger for this behavior is (and I allow myself not to address the morality of the event itself), the impotence and vegetarian responses of the rule of law in dealing with Arab terrorism. And yet, complete scum.

      1. This is because only a full-fledged right-wing government was established. If a true right-wing government is established, then everyone will see how terrorism is handled (spoiler: Even in 2040 with a true right-wing government, the reactions will be impotent, but it will be the fault of the progressive President David Mintz)

  7. You're a fucking idiot for logic, you're essentially disqualifying the parade because you're generalizing all the dancers by generalizing the entire Arab population and also harming innocent people (assuming you have no problem with them painting graffiti on the homes of terrorists)

  8. Hello.
    As a resident of the Old City, I would like to point out a few facts, and address the question of whether this justifies such behavior.
    A. All the business owners on the market axis are clear supporters of terrorism. Every time there is some operational activity or Hamas calls for days of rage, they go on strikes, and they also celebrate regularly when there are attacks.
    B. The police always inform them in advance about marches and the like, and those who remain open are purely to provoke, so I don't feel sorry for them.

  9. I simply do not believe that there were hundreds or thousands of rioters who committed vandalism.
    Usually when things are published after Jerusalem Day, you see that it is a number of incidents that can be counted on the palm of one or two hands.

    If 15-20 years ago, let's say there were hundreds or thousands of vandals/honeymooners as you wrote, where is the evidence of a mass pogrom against the residents of Arab Jerusalem and their property?

    1. I am not at all familiar with the parade, and the truth is that I was surprised to hear your testimony, and even more surprised that if that is the case, how come I have never heard of it, and no, I do not only feed on Channel 14.

      In any case, the paragraph “Go out and see who is celebrating Jerusalem Day today. Who is present at that Aivaim dance, except for the religious public? Nobody. School administrators issued a letter a few days ago not to send students to this parade. For many years, secular youth have hardly come to celebrate Jerusalem Day in any way, and certainly not in the parade. And let's not kid ourselves, it is not only because of the lack of spiritual connection to the city. There is something very discouraging about these events, even for those who live within the religious public and certainly for those who observe it from the outside. Personally, I do not understand the parents and religious educators who are interested in this spiritual connection to Jerusalem, who abandon their children and send them to participate in such a terrible event” In my opinion, it is not at all relevant to the phenomenon, even if true. The reason that the average secular person does not celebrate Jerusalem Day is not because of this or that parade, but in my opinion because they succeeded in creating for the settlement enterprise in particular and the occupation in general an image of a product of "messianic gods with their swags"; even if only the messianic gods would just shed blood for the country in wars and not be vandals.

  10. How lucky you were to see the flag parade where you discovered that the leftists were right. Maybe one day you'll see more phenomena that have been talked about for years and we can read more self-important columns about original and independent thinking.

  11. How does your argument at the beginning of the column reconcile with your column 38 on the law of small numbers?

  12. As someone who has not missed a single parade in the last 40 years and has been teaching for years in a high school yeshiva. The parade is great and appropriate for students who rejoice in the joy of Jerusalem. We return connected to national content, to the sacred, to our history. Our young students teach us that as a public we are truly in a different place, we really don't care who is with us or not, and if the so-called secular public is not interested, then let it be, we are moving forward.
    The phenomena described are happening on the margins, and the vast majority are singing and celebrating the liberation of the city.
    These students who supposedly went to the parade of the violent flags, etc., are the same students who fill and will fill the ranks on the battlefield, in the reserves, etc. A scent of something delicious rises from the column.

  13. This is how it is when people go beyond the “Do not add” and invent holidays (twice a year, which is also interesting that both of them fall within the days of the Sefirah, which is the opposite of what our rabbis commanded us to do, to reduce joy on these days) “Who has asked this of you, trampling on my walls, which I did not command, nor speak, nor did it come to my mind, your new ones and your feasts are abhorrent to me - they have become a burden to me, I am weary, even though you make many prayers - I do not hear, your hands are full of blood” -Vandalism and the dissolution of dark passions, I happened to stumble upon a Maariv service this year by a high-quality group of national religious people, on the eve of Jerusalem Day (the first time I had the opportunity to participate in a supposedly holiday prayer that does not belong to my Jewish halakhic calendar, I just hoped that they would not drag the prayer into the middle of the night with endless rounds and attacks. I have no idea what a festive prayer of this type entails). We were there as usual in one of the side rooms of the synagogue, everyone was dressed in regular weekday clothes, including me of course as an ultra-Orthodox person. One offered to move to the hall of the Great Synagogue in honor of the holiday for Maariv, but the public, in their laziness, rejected him. Suddenly, towards Maariv, the synagogue's tzaddik appeared (a true tzaddik, not cynically, teaching children that I love him. When I say love, I mean that in all my being, a humble and always happy person, all his business revolved around Torah and education and kindness and the illumination of the face. He looked more Jewish than me with his long beard). He went up to the stand and the cantor recited a chapter of Psalms, and then in a pathos he began his blessing with the melody of the holidays, and so on. The prayer with the melody of the three steps, now I am a cantor by profession and it felt so strange to me inside. I held back from laughing the whole prayer, it felt so bizarre, but one good thing came out of it, for the first time I was able to pray with the congregation, which is always the case if I happen to be there for the Maariv mincha, usually when they start, I am in the middle of the Kash. This time we finished on even terms, we finished praising. I noticed that they were now starting with some kind of ceremony, perhaps of reciting Tehillim and the like. I ran away as long as I could, but I noticed that I was not alone. More and more of the worshippers came out with me (there is a limit to how much you can play it). Maybe the cantor stayed with another one of the worshippers, at least to answer his verses, so as not to remain like a voice in the desert. I hope the gabbai didn't lock them up and that now the event is over. To sum up, what I feel all year long in a normal prayer without bursting into laughter is what I felt in the festive prayer. The above is just a weekday in the middle of the day.

    1. It is said that my father will torment you with scourges and I will torment you with more scourges.
      But one thing is certainly true: adding holidays to the counting of the Omer is truly outrageous. After all, it is already taken up for Yoma Kadisha, the Day of Atonement. There is more to the nonsense that was said here, but it is insulting to even refer to them. Poor babies who were captured.

      1. Deducting the nonsense (and there is a lot of it) and the naivety of the writer, there is some kernel of truth in my opinion.
        Casting new religious content into a factual event (the conquest of Jerusalem or the unification of Jerusalem, slowly) is not accepted by the public (including the Dattel) as a religious imperative with values, and this is very well recognized by the violent youth (apparently because there is no Sanhedrin today as an agreed-upon body that produces religious norms), and then the religious excitement created in '67 is slowly converted into violent nationalist excitement.
        Lag Ba'Omer is another factual event devoid of any religious value if it had not been decided over the generations to see it as having religious value (for whatever reason) and is therefore perceived by the public as such and does not require being translated into something foreign (the phenomenon of Maron is still not representative, because most of those who come there come for the celebration, not out of “religious” fervor)

  14. As a Litay, I once ran into Meron on a Saturday and Sunday, when Chag BaOmer started on Saturday, what do you think I did? I left immediately at Shabbat break and returned to my home in the center

  15. But it's really a question of dosage. Because it goes wild when the Arabs go wild, in calm times the parade is very lively.

  16. From the entire deep philosophical column, I will respond to ‘trifles’:
    “It was a good experience (and there were girls too, which didn't hurt)”.

    I have heard a lot of slander about you and your words, and I have tried hard to defend you.
    I cannot defend that.
    Shabbat Shalom

    1. Indeed, I too wondered whether it was not blasphemy for the rabbi to write this about himself.

      1. The intention of these words is to add fuel to the fire of criticism of the dance participants, meaning that some of the participants in the flag dance are not only righteous people whose only goal is to rejoice in the joy of our holy and glorious city, Jerusalem of gold, but also come to enjoy themselves from the party and the mix. Every teenager who grows up in a mixed society to some degree (that is, excluding the ultra-Orthodox society that distances the sexes like youth from fire) experiences this naturally. And there is no honor or reason to deny the things in the heart of every person.

  17. Dear Mikhi,
    I suggest you come next year for a corrective experience.
    The facts are simply not true.
    It's a handful, a minority, teenagers who, when they grow up, will also realize that they were wrong about it.
    How many people have you seen? There are tens of thousands of people there every year. Have you seen 100 people rioting? 200? That's still a small minority.

    And if anything, a general comment about the phenomenon of the margins: every community has its own. In every way, there will be people who distort the system, and teenagers who enjoy the "scum" that it contains. Go to the dirty places of Tel Aviv, see what phenomena of vandalism you will find there. Go to certain places among the haredim too - yes, yes, there too. It is easiest to criticize the Zionist-religious youth, most of whom are made up of excellent teenagers, and their margins are also relatively "moderate".

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