But here is the most difficult part, and here is the most difficult part, every single one is tied in its own way.

Hello Rabbi,
In the issue of Zebachim 16: Rava proposes a problematic qu, Rava bar Ahili attacks (brings to absurdity?) with 3 reversed qu and concludes that "but Ika to the greatest extent and Ika to the greatest extent, each one and one is tied in its own way."
It is unclear whether this is a contradictory statement that, through ignorance, is alienating everyone or whether this is some kind of positive solution, and if so, what it is.
On the surface, a practical solution to not knowing what the correct light and dark matter is might be to translate from Torah to dark matter, but this is not the solution that the Gemara offers.
Marshi It seems that the absurdity leads to any conclusion against Rava: "If in what the Scriptures have not divided you come to divide by me, let alone...", or "You will be removed from all of them and you will not know what to demand, but do not divide in what the Scriptures have not explained to you...".
I would appreciate it if the Rabbi could enlighten me according to his opinion, whether there is a debate here about the very ability to use the qu in certain cases (and the absurdity only serves as proof of this), and if so, what is the case in which it should not be used lightly.
thanks!