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Azaria asked 1 month ago

I heard Hawking say that a world could be created without a creator. It's just that our minds can't grasp it. [Great wisdom, you can't discuss what you don't grasp]. Can you argue with what he said?
It also opens the door to so many things that cannot be grasped by reason. For example, everything is one thing, including us and the world and God [not pantheism/atheism, whose name is God, but there is also the spiritual God as you perceive it in the story, the unity of opposites, and more, a stone that he cannot lift. I know your excellent example. Which is like a round triangle. And there is simply no such concept, so he cannot create it. Because he is subject to the laws of logic. But according to Hawking. Or if God has a different world of concepts. Then everything (maybe not everything, but many things) is possible and it is not even contradictory because there is a conceptual world that cannot be grasped by us.

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Michi Staff answered 1 month ago

This collection of words rings familiar to me, if only I could understand even one sentence of it.

Azariah, it's me. replied 1 month ago

Hawking said that a world could be created without a creator, we as humans just can't understand that? What does that mean? Do you understand that?

Azariah the believing philosopher replied 1 month ago

It's like saying that God doesn't fit any human definition. So basically our human definition. He is the absolute nothing. Because every definition limits him. Even the word "he" limits him.

Ezaryahu replied 1 month ago

And then if he has a different world of concepts. Then in the same world of concepts. Can't, that's not necessarily the opposite of can. And so on. You can say whatever you want. A world can be created without reduction at all, with reduction in its simplest form, and even with reduction not in its simplest form. None of these things have to happen, but everything is possible in terms of our knowledge. Because we have no attainment in God. In such a situation, you have made God illogical in short. Not our logic of course. If you will, divine reason/reason.

Azariah is a humble man. replied 1 month ago

In such a situation. If you could ask God. Is atheism a faith. He would answer. Yes

Azaria replied 1 month ago

If you believe [according to other discussions] that God is in a different world of concepts, then it means that he can have logic. Just different from ours. And we can't understand because it's not in our concepts. So in a situation like this we don't know because we can't understand. You can say everything, not that everything is true, but you can say it. Because in such a situation all possibilities are open. Then you can also say that he doesn't have logic because we don't know him or understand him.

Michi Staff replied 1 month ago

Hawking said so much stupid nonsense that trying to decipher some fragmented quote of his seems completely unnecessary to me. If you have a question, feel free to ask it here.

Zebulun replied 1 month ago

If Hawking had not been disabled, his thinking, which is often completely distorted, would have left no trace and the man would have remained an unknown physicist.

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