3.5 years in a Heder yeshiva

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asked 3 years ago

peace,
I was in a large, well-known Heder yeshiva. There were about 60 students in my class. I think maybe 20 percent were serious in the sense that they studied a lot, etc. and the rest, how to put it gently, were less serious. Also – the first half of the year from what I saw was pretty “wasted” and people didn’t really study. And back from the yeshiva in the fourth and fifth classes, also at a certain point people in general studied less.
So all of this seems ridiculous to me… Why is the track 3.5 years long if, from my personal experience and I assume that this is also the case in many other places, the vast majority don’t really study and many, many months are wasted.

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מיכי Staff answered 3 years ago

Ask whoever set this course. I don’t think it’s my job to defend it. I’ll just make a few comments. Of course, there are other yeshivahs, so I don’t know on what basis you formed your general impression. I’m also not sure that the picture you described is correct regarding your yeshivah. There is a wide range of levels of study, and it is clear that not everyone is at the top. But not at the bottom either. A thousand for Talmud and one for teaching. The Sages already recommended opening yeshivahs for a thousand students even though only one will go on to teach.

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דוד replied 3 years ago

What does "wasted" mean? These are very subjective concepts, depending on the goals of each person. By the way, in every institution and everywhere there is waste/idleness. The question is also what is the goal of a young man who goes to a yeshivah nowadays. Many young men go to a yeshivah not to become great scholars and scholars, but more to build a Torah foundation and feel a sense of belonging to the Torah, etc. (without getting into the discussion of whether it is worth anything or not). So if you are softening the waste of time, it probably means that you are not meeting the goals you set for yourself, but don't judge other people for wasting their time, because everyone has their own goals.