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A question in faith

שו”תCategory: faithA question in faith
asked 5 years ago

Hello, Your Honor, today I came across this video and as a result a question arose in my mind about faith –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM3FP0lADxg
Thanks in advance.


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מיכי Staff answered 5 years ago
A question of faith also arises here for me: How can there be such a great fool who speaks with such high self-confidence? There is no point in dwelling on his words and their many flaws in detail. I will only write two points here: Throughout the ages, most scientists have been devoutly religious. He will probably explain that this is because it was the fashion at the time. It was not legitimate or reasonable to advocate atheism. The situation today is the opposite. Just as the majority then did not decide his opinion, so the majority today does not decide my opinion. The atheist sect is a rather fanatical and inattentive sect, and therefore it is quite difficult to hold an opinion there that believes in God. And one more thing. I’ve already said that there are things that are so stupid that only intellectuals can say them. Scientists don’t necessarily have free thought (this is a mistake in his assumption). Absolutely not. But they do have a tendency to adopt methodological assumptions that are accepted in their field and copy them into claims about the world, without thinking about them again.

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מיכי Staff replied 5 years ago

See my words here: https://mikyab.net/posts/3516

צחי replied 5 years ago

Thanks for the reference - it's very important to me
But correct me if I'm wrong - the rabbi said that in the past, people in science would believe, etc. But if I'm not mistaken - since always those “sages” were first and foremost religious people - priests and the like, and some were also people of science. Today the world comes from a neutral platform so…
And besides - the fact that a hundred years ago science was completely different from today's science doesn't change anything? (It's true that this has nothing to do with the matter of “thinking outside the limits” but…)

א. replied 5 years ago

This was not the fashion. They would have boycotted you or executed you. Should I remind you of Spinoza? Or of Giordano Bruno? Furthermore, the science of their time is ignorant of the science of our time. They had gaps and they threw them at belief in God. As for the percentages he talks about, he is not talking out of thin air and making them up, and it is known from those studies that the intelligence of believers is lower than that of non-believers. What is your explanation for this? (By the way, according to those percentages, you are less than the percentage of philosophers who believe).

ברון replied 5 years ago

The sweeping rejection of the argument in the video rivals the level of the video itself with great respect.

ץ replied 5 years ago

I only saw the beginning and not the rest, but at the beginning he said that the question in the survey was about personal prayer, and not necessarily faith in God. (For example, Einstein could be a dog who believes in God but will not accept personal prayer)
If so, it may not reflect at all on the type of question you are asking here…

א. replied 5 years ago

We were the same. Einstein didn't believe in God, he was an atheist who played with the semantics of the word 'God' like Spinoza.

ב. replied 5 years ago

“The doctorate here is a good representation, because the doctorate is a measure of your ability to think independently of the thoughts of your predecessors” (from the video). Da?!
If this is such a level of claims, I agree with Rabbi Michi…

ב. replied 5 years ago

with*

ץ replied 5 years ago

A. It is very unclear.
Anyway, I think you still haven't understood the difficult problem with the video that doesn't reflect anything….
And I didn't want to write it explicitly here, but there are several important people here on the site who believe in both God and the Torah and probably also in the main ”Thirteen. But in a survey they will be revealed as atheists…

צחי replied 5 years ago

Interesting - can it be expanded?

א.ב. replied 5 years ago

Let's also say that the numbers he throws up are probably not only exaggerated but also unfounded.

ץ replied 5 years ago

Tzachi, you are welcome to take a look here:
https://mikyab.net/%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%AA/%d7%a9%d7%90%d7%9c%d7%94-%d7%9c%d7%90%d7%9e%d7%95%d7%a0%d7%94

א. replied 5 years ago

I am returning here to my statement that Einstein was an atheist. When asked if he was a pantheist, he replied: ‘I am not an atheist. I do not know if I can define myself as a pantheist.’ To get a fuller perspective, you need to read the book ‘Einstein and Religion,’ I have not read it yet.

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