Antisemitism

Good evening, does the rabbi think that anti-Semitism is really a mystical phenomenon in the sense of ‘knowing that Esau hates Jacob’ – a kind of fate that all Gentiles are born with and when they vote against us at the UN, there is no point in listening to their arguments and talking to them because it is clear that they are doing it anyway because they hate us and everything they say is a fig leaf for good old anti-Semitism (these are things I have heard from people around me), or is anti-Semitism based on ordinary human things (which are problematic in themselves) – for example, that usually the source of anti-Semitism is racism and the interests of Gentiles to blame people who look different and are in positions of power in order to get out of various complications or to overthrow them, but there is nothing mystical or fateful here, and there can also be good Gentiles who will never hate us… or maybe it is neither of the two and it is more complex? What does the rabbi think? thanks