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Behavior of molecules and another question.

שו”תCategory: philosophyBehavior of molecules and another question.
asked 7 years ago

Greetings to the Rabbi Shlita.
In his book ‘God Plays Dice’, the Rabbi said that no one has any idea how a sequence of molecules creates conscious feelings and will, and said that this is different from a sequence of water molecules, where the connection of several molecules creates a liquid (I’m not really familiar with the scientific details). I had a bit of a question: What is the difference between the connection of several molecules suddenly creating a ‘force field’ that causes a liquid? This is arbitrary, and what is the difference between water and a collection of molecules that creates consciousness?
By the way, in the same book, you expanded on your condemnation of materialism, and you said that while evolution can cause a gene to identify with suffering and the like, it can never create something that we see as valuable in that gene. Am I right?
As for the fact that one cannot say anything about something from external assumptions, as David Hume explained, then I didn’t really understand how moral and aesthetic issues are decided.
 
I hope I was able to explain.


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מיכי Staff answered 7 years ago
Fluidity can be explained on the basis of the properties of the individual molecule. Therefore, it is a weak emergent. But the emergence of the mental from the material whole is a strong emergent (the macro cannot be explained in terms of the micro). I explained this in the book. Evolution can create a sense of value, but not a valid value. At most, it will be an illusory feeling. I didn’t understand the last question.

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i replied 7 years ago

The value is valid in the eyes of the robot that experiences it, why do we need anything more than that?

ישי replied 7 years ago

What does it have to do with need?
He said it doesn't really create value, but rather the illusion of value.

i replied 7 years ago

And I ask, what is the difference for every practical need?

מיכי Staff replied 7 years ago

Who talked about practice? There are practical differences, but that's not the issue here.

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