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asked 9 years ago

Hello Rabbi,
Do you think there is a ban on reading philosophy books in the bathroom?


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מיכי Staff answered 9 years ago
I think not. Such a prohibition can only apply to Torah in the Haftza and not to Torah in the Gebra. See My articles here on the site: As I explained there, in principle, there is no such prohibition on the Khozari and the Teacher of the Confused (except for the verses cited in them). —————————————————————————————— Asks: Another small question regarding bringing sabbaths into the bathroom: is it forbidden to bring sabbaths that have few sabbath recitations or few verses, or can we say that most of them are all there? Also, if it is not known whether the sabbath has sabbaths or verses, is it obligatory to check this before entering the bathroom? —————————————————————————————— Rabbi: I don’t think there is a difference between a few and a lot of remembrances. There is no need for the entire book to be remembrances for it to be prohibited from being taken into the bathroom, and therefore there is no connection to the law of the majority as a whole, nor to following the majority. If at all, then the law of annulment, but here there is no mixture (if only because it is obvious and for many reasons) and therefore there is no annulment.
It is mandatory to check whether there is a reasonable fear of this. Obviously, there is no need to check Kopiko to see if someone accidentally put a memorial there.
In any case, the insertion itself is not so problematic, certainly if there is a cover (and even the cover is a cover). Reading is more problematic. And in a syllabary that contains incidental commemorations, one must be even more lenient because the object of the book itself is not sacred, and therefore the book deserves to be considered a cover.
—————————————————————————————— Asks: So if I understood you correctly, is it possible to make it easier to put a sand book in the bathroom, even if it contains memorials, simply by flipping through it if you happen to come across a memorial? —————————————————————————————— Rabbi: If they are not expected to be there in advance. —————————————————————————————— Asks: The problem is that philosophy books often use the name “God.” The question is whether this means that one should avoid bringing philosophy books into the bathroom because of this concern. —————————————————————————————— Rabbi: I think that in philosophy books this is not mentioned for two main reasons: First, the writing is with and and it is not the name of God (which is why I also write this in my books). Second, we usually do not mean our God (the religious one, and in particular the Jewish one). For example, when we write God in the sense of important people (judges), it is not a holy name. —————————————————————————————— Asks: Is there an identity difference between the philosophical God and the religious God?
In addition to the memorials of the Shas, what is the ruling on the following matters regarding entry into the House of the Chair:
1. Complete verses without apostrophes
2. Parts of verses without a “sh” (for example, “Love your neighbor as yourself”)
3. Common proverbial sayings (such as “Everything is expected and permission is given”)
4. Names that refer to God but are not considered names that cannot be erased, such as: the Name, the Lord, the Lord, God, etc.
—————————————————————————————— Rabbi: There is no difference, it is the same object. But only the noun refers to its essence. The other names describe it, and therefore they depend on the context. Two different descriptions of the same object are not the same as two names for it. In fact, regarding the noun (YHWH), one should be stricter about this. 1. In a complete verse, they used to be stricter and require a cover, as I wrote above. 2. In parts of verses, they used to be lenient, especially if they are used in language to express things other than the verse itself. Otherwise, if there is a book in which it is told about Shimon who said to his friend, “Hear, O Israel, let us go for a walk,” it would be forbidden to include it there. 3. As above. 4. If they are not names that have holiness in them, it is possible. ה’, י”יו, etc.

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אורן replied 9 years ago

Further to this question, I have a book called “The Silence of the Tao” which contains the following sentence:
“In the Judeo-Christian concept of God, one of the things that is strictly justified is obedience to God!”
Regarding the first name God, you have already answered that it is not a holy name. But regarding the second name “God” is there a problem here?

מושה replied 9 years ago

God and Allah are the same thing!
Although I don't understand the sentence you gave (: (: (:

אורן replied 9 years ago

For Moshe, see this link for an explanation:
https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%97%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%AA_%D7%94%D7%A9%D7%9D

מיכי Staff replied 9 years ago

I think it's possible to be lenient. Maybe there's room for stricter rules if we already know that the name of the Lord is there. In that case, the name was not written as a holy name and not for the sake of studying Torah. Again, I saw a discussion here with the letter Y:

http://mobile.tora.ws/html/508-4.html

 

מושה replied 9 years ago

Oren, it is I who said to this as God. Can you explain the sentence you quoted from the philosophical book?

Rabbi: Is a book of the apostles from the New Testament permitted to be read in the services?
What I mean is does the sanctity of the names of God come from themselves or from the law in the book?
If from themselves, then every book is prohibited.
And if from the sanctity of the book, then even if it does not contain the names of God, it should not be brought into the services.
And if it is a heretical book like the New Testament, then even if it contains the names of God - that it is prohibited to read in it is clear, but if it is brought into the services if the sanctity from the name of God is in it - what is the ruling?

אורן replied 9 years ago

El is perhaps like Elohim but not like God with a va. Regarding the sentence, the author (Raymond Smolyan) seems to be pointing out a fact that in the Judeo-Christian view, obedience to God is central to religion.

מושה replied 9 years ago

Regarding the sentence, I assumed so, but in which religion is it not like that in the first place?
You're right - absolutely!

For some reason, why wasn't any holiness added to your list for the name Ya, YA? I checked, it's also the name of the ’. And even part of the 4-letter name.
What does the rabbi say?

מושה replied 9 years ago

In the same context, I wanted to ask, is there a tuition fee for philosophy, whether Jewish or not..
And is it worth studying philosophy in the Rabbi's opinion and for what beneficial reason?
Is the love of God the study of philosophy or is the love of God the study of His words (the Torah)?
Why and do we need to know things about the Creator in philosophy other than that He is supreme in all that relates to this and that which results from this. Or in other words, the Creator who has the powers and plunders nature.
I would love to hear the opinions of all of you

מיכי Staff replied 9 years ago

I don't know anything about salary. Is this a reward for the commandment of studying Talmud Torah? See my article on the site about studying Talmud Torah in Haftsa and Gebra. Is it worth it? If it's important to you and interests you, then in my opinion, yes.

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