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Canceling leaven

שו”תCategory: Talmudic studyCanceling leaven
asked 6 months ago

Hello, Honorable Rabbi, and Happy Holidays, where does the Gemara learn the law of cancellation? After all, it’s not like a regular pauper, so there has to be a source for it… I haven’t really found an answer to this.


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מיכי Staff answered 6 months ago
I didn’t understand why the need for a source depends on whether it is a fuqar or not? See here a review of the words of the early ones on the source of the law of annulment: https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%91%D7%99%D7%98%D7%95%D7%9C_%D7%97%D7%9E%D7%A5 But in my opinion, there is no need for a source even if it is not a paqar. It is enough that according to the Sages, this is the existence of a tashab. And if there was a need for a source, it would be true even if it was a paqar.

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Amir Hoze replied 6 months ago

Hello Rabbi, first of all, it is not simple that this is a detail in the laws of the mitzvah of teshvithu, especially for those who claim that it applies from the sixth hour and above. Besides, I would say that what does not need a source is regarding the pakar, which is simply that it is beneficial because there is no longer ownership of that chametz. For that, obviously, there is no need for an explanation, since the entire prohibition is in my chametz. Therefore, the mechanism of the pakar is simple that it is beneficial not to transgress it without seeing it and without finding it. Now the Chazal come and say that there is a way to sever specific ownership in chametz (and I also do not know since when it is beneficial, is it also beneficial a week before the sixth hour or just before the evening meal?) And this way is different from the pakar, so it does not seem logical to me that the Chazal would think that this is correct from an explanation unless they really explain that they are merely interpreting the mitzvah of teshvithu, and for that I ask what the source is that this is really what they are doing? I saw that Shreshi writes this, but where does he get it from? Thank you and happy holidays!

מיכי Staff replied 6 months ago

I don't understand what other reason there is to cancel. It's a suspension, and perhaps also avoiding something that will be seen and found.
If an argument states that I don't transgress over leaven that isn't mine, and therefore the one who doesn't have it is beneficial, a similar argument says that cancellation would be beneficial.

Amir Hoze replied 6 months ago

But where did they come up with that? In other words, how did they understand that this is what you are saying? The rabbi doesn't have to answer if he feels he has exhausted himself. Thank you very much for all your work!

מיכי Staff replied 6 months ago

I don't understand the question. They didn't invent anything. The Sages understood from the interpretation that this is a Sabbath.

Amir Hoze replied 6 months ago

So what is the disagreement among the Sages about whether it is possible to burn or destroy in any way? Can't we see from that that they understand that desecration is a real action?

מיכי Staff replied 6 months ago

The conditions differed regarding the method of eliminating chametz. If one makes a cancellation in this way, it is destroyed and there is no need to destroy it. The sages of the rabbinate have established that even if one cancels it, it will still burn (lest it be eaten). Beyond that, there is important chametz for which cancellation is not beneficial (because one does not seriously intend to cancel it), and for this, physical elimination is required.

עמיר חוזה replied 6 months ago

Interesting. I am currently reading your lesson summaries on Tractate Pesachim (of the doctoral program). We would also be happy if you return to the topic in a series of lessons someday. Thank you Rabbi for the response!

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