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Catholicism and Protestantism

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asked 5 years ago

I just saw an interesting statistic that six of the Supreme Court justices are Catholic (only one of them is liberal). Two more are Jewish and only one is Protestant.
Is there any correlation between Protestantism and liberalism that causes, in the long run, American conservatism (at least in its educated strata) to become increasingly Catholic, as part of the correlation that the Rabbi made between the right and syntheticism?
If the Rabbi knows anything about this, I would be happy to answer.

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מיכי Staff answered 5 years ago

I’m not knowledgeable enough, but it seems to me that the distribution of Supreme Court justices in the US doesn’t teach much. They are elected by a political mechanism that selects whoever suits them. It’s far from being a representative sample, both in terms of its scope and because of their selection methods.
In fact, Protestantism has two faces that seem contradictory. On the one hand, its entire essence is conservatism, against innovative Catholicism. Catholics think that the Pope and the church institutions have the authority to change dogmas and principles, and Luther and Calvin’s protest went against this in itself. Protestants strive to return to the sources of the past without the innovations that were added later. But that is precisely why Protestants are more diverse than Catholics. Because no one knows what was in the past (everyone paints the past as they see it, and then sticks to it), and we do not stick to the accepted in the present because it is not valid, then many sects with different and strange shades are formed, and that is why this happens precisely in the “conservative” Protestant world. In contrast, Catholicism is more uniform, since it is run by centralized institutions (in Rome). That is why the most extreme and dark phenomena appear precisely in the Protestant world (the Bible Belt and Christian fundamentalism, the KKK, etc.).
By the way, a similar difference exists between Shia and Sunni in Islam. Shia is Catholicism and Sunni is Protestantism. And note that even there, the more extremists are Sunnis, like Protestants in Christianity.
By the way, it’s the same with us. The youth of the hills and the women of the Shalem and other extreme phenomena are actually calling for conservatism and a return to the past (to herd sheep, to disconnect from technology and to wear the clothes of the tenth century BC), but because they have no governing institutions and they disbelieve in contemporary authorities, they are more extreme and in many ways also more diverse. Conservatism and a return to the past create diversity and not uniformity. Even the ultra-Orthodox, which many have written is a new phenomenon (and not conservative, in this sense), is now perceived as conservative because it is painted in a relatively uniform color and does not allow for much diversity. This was the case at least as long as there was a leader in the capital. In recent years, this has changed because there is also a phenomenon of protest and a lack of agreed leadership. And of course, there, too, Protestantism only makes them more extreme.

א.ב. replied 5 years ago

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תומר replied 5 years ago

In the United States and Western Europe, it is the Catholics who are the liberals. Sometimes they even go against the Pope's position. Most liberal voices within the Church itself are liberal, and a continuous change of direction can be seen within the Church in recent decades.
The conservative faction among Catholics comes mainly from Africa and South America.

On the other hand, among Protestants, there are conservative factions that do not move from the written word. In fact, Protestants sanctify the Holy Scriptures alone (sola scriptura) and reject the Magisterium in its conventional sense (the Pope, the Patriarch). According to them, every person is entitled and should interpret the Holy Scriptures according to their understanding and live according to them.

That is why there are several ways to understand everything. Some understand the general direction of the New Testament as meaning progressive morality, high moral standards, and even liberalism, and some sanctify the written word as it is.

It should be noted that several times in the New Testament Jesus attacks both the Sadducees and the Pharisees for sanctifying the written word over the general idea. According to some scholars, some of the Pharisees also held a similar opinion to Jesus, and such directions can even be seen in the external literature, the Mishnah and the Gemara.

In any case, it is impossible to look at Protestants as a single entity and it is impossible to compare liberal Lutherans with Baptists. Or between the Hunnates (among them the Amish sect) and Episcopalians. In fact, even among the churches within the same stream there are major differences of opinion. The English Anglicans even threatened to expel the American and Australian Episcopalians from the Anglican stream. A move that did not succeed.
Many young Protestants also have perceptions that differ from the official position of the church. This phenomenon also exists among Catholics and even among Orthodox Jews, but because of the freedom of interpretation among Protestants, the gap is much greater.

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