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Creation from nothing

שו”תCategory: faithCreation from nothing
asked 8 years ago

Hello Rabbi,
I wanted to ask if indeed everything has a cause. And God is the cause of himself. How could He have created the universe before it existed? After all, it is a creation out of nothing. What is better than assuming that there is a God who created the world out of nothing. Rather than assuming that the world was created out of nothing?
After all, even God does not have the material components to create such a creation. And if so, then He too has a reason.


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מיכי Staff answered 8 years ago
I didn’t understand the question.

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ידידיה replied 8 years ago

How can God create something (the universe) from nothing (before the universe there was nothing). This is a logical contradiction, isn't it?

מיכי Staff replied 8 years ago

I don't see the connection between what you asked here and the talk about the cause of itself, etc. in the opening message.

In any case, to your question here, I don't see it as a logical contradiction. This is at most a physical inability (like performing a miracle against the laws of nature and above natural human abilities).
Although the Ramban in the commentary attributed to him on the Song of Songs (Chapter 2 by Shaavel) does see this as a logical problem and therefore makes a Platonic claim that the material of the universe was ancient (on the well-known midrash from Parkei Dara: Where were the heavens created from snow under the throne of His glory? What the Ramban describes in the Moreh as the most puzzling midrash he has ever seen). But in Genesis he contradicts these words (and I suggested a solution in my article on Torah and Science). In any case, as for me, I disagree.

ידידיה replied 8 years ago

The opening statement is that since God can create something from nothing, why not assume that the world itself was created from nothing (even without God).?

Why isn't this a logical contradiction? After all, how can something be created from nothing? Nothing can be "carved" out of nothing.

מיכי Staff replied 8 years ago

What does “not possible” mean? Not possible like it is impossible to fly in the air or not possible like making a round triangle. The first is a physical inability and the second is logical. The second is a logical contradiction because a triangle is not a circle and vice versa. But creation from nothing at most contradicts the laws of nature but does not have an internal logical contradiction. It is not that there is nothing and there is at the same moment. It is a logical contradiction. There was nothing and now there is something. There is nothing contradictory here. At most, a person or other creature cannot do this. Therefore, in my opinion, it is no different from the breaking of the sea or the sun in Gibeon Doom.

ידידיה replied 8 years ago

It's like a round triangle. How can nothing be turned into something? This is a logical contradiction just like a round triangle.

And if something can indeed be created from absolute nothingness, then we don't have to assume that there is a God.
Maybe one day the absence woke up in the morning and decided that he suddenly had a world.
PS I remembered that certain interpreters of quantum theory confirm this, and as I recall, the late Stephen wrote this. That the energies cancel each other out and thus a free midday meal is created. Like a mountain and a pit.

מיכי Staff replied 8 years ago

I can't repeat the same thing over and over again. I explained. If you don't agree – for health.

ידידיה replied 8 years ago

Maybe you can explain one more time? After all, there is nothing and then there is something created. And from nothingness, there cannot logically be something created. Because there is nothing in it. That is why it is called “nothingness.”

And you didn’t answer why you don’t accept the creation of something from nothingness. I mean even without God? In your opinion, is that a logical contradiction?

א"ח replied 8 years ago

I think that the fact that something cannot come from nothing is physical and not logical (the concept of "nothing" does not mean "there is nothing and there will never be anything" but simply "there is nothing" - therefore the fact that something then exists is not a logical contradiction)

And this also answers the second question - physically it is impossible for this to happen, and this is where God comes in - he can break physical laws.

מיכי Staff replied 8 years ago

I have nothing to explain here. Can you explain why the clouds are not kind-hearted and why their hands do not extend beyond their ears? The premise of your question is absurd on its face, and even you yourself write this, after all, you yourself brought that quantum theory talks about the creation of something from nothing and at the same time you continued to claim that this is a logical contradiction. One thing and its opposite. So what do you want me to answer?
As A”H explained, exactly what I wrote to you above, it is a physical problem and not a logical one, and therefore man cannot do it and God can. That is all. I have nothing more to say.

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