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D. Species of family members

שו”תCategory: HalachaD. Species of family members
asked 5 years ago

Hello Rabbi,
In many homes, the father of the family buys four kinds of food for all the members of the household.
Should we be careful and associate each set with a specific person, and make sure to only take their set?
And what if there was no explicit statement of whose set each was, and I accidentally took a set belonging to someone else in the household?

thanks,
given


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מיכי Staff answered 5 years ago
The question is only for the first day of course (when it does not fall on Shabbat. Not this year), since on the other days the species do not need to be the taker’s. I think in such a case there is no problem because in the process of selection it becomes clear who each set belongs to. When I took the particular set I took, it was determined that it was my set. Although in the Torah there is no choice, in partnership there is (see Gemara R. Sh. Sh. Sh. Ben-Naidrim), and in particular here that the result must only exist from now on (it is not important that it be mine at the beginning of the day, but only when I take it. This was emphasized in the Rashba’s response, in which the 23rd century did not disagree that there is a choice). Although one can wonder whether there is jealousy here on the day of the Torah, but according to the law there is no problem because the jealousy was made by the Ba’u’i and only the clarification is being made now.

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מיכי Staff replied 5 years ago

It seems to me that all of this is only meant for people who have an independent "pocket". Those who are supported by their father (or husband) have no problem at all. The "you" are supported by the father's ownership. Even a dish to pepper it.

‫נתן‬‎ replied 5 years ago

And for people who have an independent "pocket", once jealousy has occurred by choice, is it permissible to go out only in the chosen set and not in the others (which were made known to others) on the first day?

מיכי Staff replied 5 years ago

indeed.

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