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Demonstrations and Jews

שו”תCategory: philosophyDemonstrations and Jews
asked 2 years ago

Have a good week!
We now see that the Eritrean protest has gotten out of control, creating a pogrom and causing damage to shops and uninvolved people. Also, I am reminded of the recent protests in France where police were beaten and parking lots were vandalized, etc., as well as the protests two years ago in the US.
On the other hand, when you look at the demonstrations in Israel, they have never acted in this way.
Doesn’t this indicate the special character of the Jews (not necessarily metaphysical, but cultural)?
 


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מיכי Staff answered 2 years ago
Absolutely not. 1. Eritreans are in a very different situation here than ordinary citizens. Therefore, the comparison is not between Jews and Eritreans but between citizens and immigrants/refugees. 2. There are other countries and groups that do not riot in their demonstrations. 3. There have also been riots by Jews in the past.

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א replied 2 years ago

And what about the impact of the High Court on the lives of citizens? In the past, it was underestimated. As you know, the High Court invalidated all the laws intended to prevent them from settling here.

מיכי Staff replied 2 years ago

Indeed, it is a completely marginal influence, certainly compared to the government's influence. And regardless, the Eritrean problem is not being solved because the government has not done what the international community requires for years, to check who is a refugee and who is an infiltrator, and as always, it is convenient for it to throw everything at the High Court.

מיכי Staff replied 2 years ago

https://news.walla.co.il/item/3606100

א replied 2 years ago

The article you referred to is a great example of media bias (not to mention deception). A dramatic headline that presents Likud members as hypocrites, when the content of the article is actually about ideological opposition to an agreement that would grant legal status to 16,000 infiltrators - the same number as those who are supposed to leave under it (of course, in the headline they only mention the number of those leaving without any reference to the second part of the deal - those who remain). It is also interesting that they bring all the responses of the Likud MKs under the same headline, when we all know in which direction this will take the readers' thinking biases. In short, by providing this link you wanted to curse and came out blessing.
Regarding your previous answer, I would appreciate it if you could expand on the refugee/infiltrator issue, how do you think the state can find out about each of those people and what do you think the consequences of this will be?

מיכי Staff replied 2 years ago

Deception or not, there was a step there that brought the problem upon us. By the way, in the agreement with the UN there was talk of 40,000 as far as I remember. But that doesn't matter. The fact that they could have taken out half of the infiltrators and didn't do so. A wrong decision is their own fault. The perfect is the enemy of the good. So I came and found myself cursing.
International law requires an investigation, and I assume there will also be laws of sufficiency. But the government is evading its duty to this day and is offering false and repugnant solutions, and blaming everyone but itself.
Only in the recent riots do we see that it is possible to find out who belongs to the government's supporters and understand that he is not a refugee.
In short, this is false propaganda, as is the custom of Bibi and his gang.

א replied 2 years ago

The Ethiopian and Mizrahi protests in the past were no less violent. There was also a leftist demonstration that ended in murder.

א replied 2 years ago

The previous response by ‘A’ is not mine.
In bringing this up, you assume that the coalition and the Knesset in general should say thank you for allowing them to legislate and settle for little (saying thank you is to the glory of the recommendation, of course). What will the Knesset members do who believe that their voters are interested in a more sweeping law and are not willing to establish citizenship for sixteen thousand, some of whom are trespassers?
Your claim regarding the obligation to examine requires further examination (unless you refer to material on the subject), as does the claim about the 40 thousand, which contradicts what is stated in the article.
The last claim is not really understandable, but it also does not seem to me to be related to our topic, so with your permission I will treat it as some kind of decoration for the end of your response.

מיכי Staff replied 2 years ago

They will do what the law allows them to do. And if they made wrong decisions that they failed to implement, the responsibility is on them. That's all. I've completely exhausted myself.

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