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Doubt, foreskin and disappointment………

שו”תCategory: HalachaDoubt, foreskin and disappointment………
asked 4 years ago

I bought trees at the nursery and planted them.
Financial expense and hassle.
The trees are 5-6 years old.
Now it turns out to me that they were laid on a sheet that is doubtful whether it is considered a halachically separate mat from the foreskin.
Is there no choice but to count again 3 years of circumcision and a year of planting a quarter as sufficient?


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מיכי Staff answered 4 years ago
I don’t understand. Now you take them off the bed and plant them in the ground?

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מיכי Staff replied 4 years ago

Maimonides (Mas 10:8) writes that even on a detached bed, years of circumcision are counted. Although some have explained that he meant only an unperforated pot that a tree penetrates, and not actual detached sheets. But opinions differed on this. Therefore, for example, the fruits of circumcision are prohibited on a tree that grows on a detached bed because of this Maimonides.
The commentary on the laws of circumcision, Aot Lev, writes that circumcision on metal is prohibited, at least according to the rabbis. But if you uproot it with a clod (which can live in it) and plant it in the ground, it is doubtful whether you count the years of circumcision from the beginning.
So if you plant it now in the ground with a clod of soil that was on the detached bed, that is another doubt that joins the doubt of the detached bed, and oh, the doubt of the spicah.

הנוטע replied 4 years ago

So is it allowed?
Yes, sir.

מיכי replied 4 years ago

If there is indeed doubt about the substrate and you are transferring to soil with a lump that is worthy of living within it.

ראעי replied 4 years ago

Just pointing out: Even if there is a reasonable doubt, on the one hand, that the correct side in the ruling is that it is forbidden, in simple terms this would be a transgression (admittedly unintentional, and there is a discussion to what extent atonement is required for an unintentional transgression that is not a crime. But it is up to you to decide).

מיכי replied 4 years ago

I did not understand this comment. If it is permitted, then no atonement is needed. The permission to ease the doubt of a spiqa means that there is no need to fear the side that forbids.
Although some of the jurists have discussed the doubt of a spiqa in the spiqa of a dedina (and here it is your explanation), but this method also does not have permission to do so (and not only will atonement be needed if you transgress). But even in the doubt of a spiqa of a dedina, for most jurists it is permitted.

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