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Electricity on Shabbat because of a burner

שו”תCategory: HalachaElectricity on Shabbat because of a burner
asked 6 years ago

Hello Rabbi, I heard the lesson on the subject of construction and electrical work on Shabbat, and I wanted to ask 2 questions:
Doesn’t the fact that the plug is built so that it will be constantly pulled out and put back in take away a little from the meaning of closing an electrical circuit? After all, it is a building that may be hidden, by definition. And another question – does the Rabbi accept the opinion of Rabbi Kook (Responsa Orach Mishpat, siman 8a) who claims that everything that ignites and heats is called fire, and cites some evidence for this (for example, the fire that came down from above, the fire of the bush, as well as some examples in halakha)?
Thank you very much!


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מיכי Staff answered 6 years ago
It may be so. It requires entering the bed of chapters and the like. But simply put, it is not a collection of parts that fall apart, but rather the possibility of eliminating the whole thing and rebuilding it. There is room for discussion in such a situation. I don’t know. You need to see the evidence for this. Simply put, there was a real fire in the forest. We also need to discuss cooking in the oven, which is not considered real cooking. And so is the oven in Tiberias. Although this is about cooking and not about a burner, it sounds like a conspiracy to me.

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משה replied 6 years ago

For the first question, when the circuit is designed to break down and rebuild itself by being turned on and off frequently, see the author on the subject who writes that the intention of the light switch is for it to stay on forever and only because of the bill of lading does he turn it off. I think that the author also knew that this is a narrow explanation, and also that it does not answer many cases (an air conditioner, for example).

מיכי Staff replied 6 years ago

Beyond this explanation of the prediction, I think that in a bed of parts, the bed itself, when it is built, also looks like it is made of parts for a fixed time. In contrast, in an electric circuit, although it can indeed be turned off, it does not appear that way when it is operating. There is no sign at the time of operation that the operation is temporary and composed of temporary elements. Therefore, in my opinion, there is room to see it as a permanent structure. Beyond that, in a bed of parts, there is also a bed that is not a bed of parts, and therefore the bed of parts is a bed of temporary elements. In electricity, this is its constant nature everywhere, it can always be turned off and on, and therefore it is more difficult to define it as temporary.

משה replied 6 years ago

In your opinion, there is room for building simple circuits that will not be prohibited.
I think that according to the prediction, the whole point is whether there is a cancellation of the parts زلز or not, this is the point in the discussions on the issue of the staff of chapters in the taqiya and the other saharots do not play a role

מיכי Staff replied 6 years ago

I don't think so. Even in a simple circuit, the flow of current creates something new. A circuit that does not work at all is a different matter. This is definitely something to discuss.
The elimination of the parts is done by transforming them into a new and different whole. Therefore, I see no connection to the distinctions I made above.

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