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Electricity prohibition on Shabbat

שו”תCategory: HalachaElectricity prohibition on Shabbat
asked 8 years ago

Greetings to the Honorable Rabbi,
I was in a class that the Rabbi gave in Shoham,
Afterwards, I approached the rabbi with a question about the essential difference between operating a device by an electrical mechanism
and its operation by a mechanical spring mechanism.
Since, as I understand it, the Rabbi placed the prohibition of construction on the fact that the mere act of operation changes something fundamental in the device, which becomes
A device in operation, the answer to my question is critical since, seemingly, even when operating a switch in a completely mechanical mechanism
We will go over exactly the same craft.
The rabbi did not answer me, after which I pondered the matter further and wondered if there was no mistake here.
Essentially, an attempt to find a halakhic prohibition from among the Sabbath prohibitions using complete technology.
I will explain my argument:
In the prohibitions of Shabbat, it appears that the Sages prohibited crafts and not technologies.
For example, cutting with a knife is not prohibited.
If I cut oats with the knife, I will violate the prohibition of reaping, and if I cut challah with the knife, it will be part of the Sabbath observance.
Another example, riding a horse, the Sages forbade because ‘it might tear’ and not actually the rider’s body.
It is true that it is not actually possible to use cycling technology on Shabbat, but the very prohibition stems from doing a craft while using this technology.
The approach to the electricity ban was supposed to be like this.
From this perspective, there should not have been any prohibition on connecting an electrical circuit on Shabbat. If it is a circuit that does nothing, there is no prohibition on electricity.
Our problem is with things that are done with electricity, and here every question is irrelevant.
Is lighting a light a craft?
Is operating a device like a fan a craft?
Is opening a door on Shabbat a chore?
In such a perspective, we touch on the things themselves, the very things that the rabbis were so concerned about that would harm the character of Shabbat.
There is no harm in the character of Shabbat if I open a door even if the mechanism is electric.
And there is a violation of the character of Shabbat if we allow crafts that would allow people to continue their normal work and occupations on Shabbat.
I’m afraid of the moment someone dares to allow phone/computer/internet use on Shabbat.
Even if the devices are operated with sound waves without electricity at all (as I said, technology is not the significant factor)
I would love to hear the Rabbi’s opinion on this approach.
thanks,
Dalit


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מיכי Staff answered 8 years ago
Hello Dalit. Regarding the operation of a mechanical device, as I told you then, this is indeed an interesting question. I tend to think that it is different from operating an electrical device because there is no change in the nature of the device. In contrast, in an electrical device, the wires go from death to life, as the Chazo writes. When electricity flows through the device, it becomes something different (beyond the fact that it is in operation and that it produces something). The wire itself becomes an object with a different nature (alive). But it is really a matter of feeling and it is difficult for me to give a sharp definition. I don’t agree that things should be examined only through what the device does. It doesn’t matter what the device does, but what I do. And if I operate a device, it has a meaning beyond the product of the device itself. Riding a horse is a bad example, because the horse is not changed by me riding it (this sharpens the distinction I made in the previous paragraph). Considerations of the nature of Shabbat are really undefined, and they are certainly not the basis for the prohibitions of the work. If anything, then quite the opposite, the prohibitions of the work might define them. According to the Ramban, there is a prohibition from the Torah of Shvut that concerns the nature of Shabbat, but even according to his view, it is not a prohibition of stoning like the prohibitions of the work.

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דלית replied 8 years ago

Hello Rabbi,

The Rabbi taught us in class that things must be examined with the appropriate resolution,
just as I do not see the delay of electrons in various junction mechanisms, so I do not see the
current that passes and brings the wire to life.
What I see is pressing a switch and turning on a device, I do not understand how these two distinctions
work together.

And regarding the craft, I did not claim that the test is the test of the result.
Craft is the encounter between the creator and the creation, the technology with which one works is marginal.
In many cases, differences in technology (by device or by hand, for example) will weigh in favor of a different ruling
whether the craft is done in its own way or with a change. But the craft is the same craft.

The rabbi noted that we are in the midst of the development of halakha on the subject of electricity, but everyone already feels that in a moment
These discussions will be a thing of the past
If the spotlight is cast on the craft, even if the harvesting occurs with the help of sound waves, it will still be the same harvesting

I did not mean that one should act out of concern for the nature of the Sabbath alone, the process is supposed to be – what crafts, if we were to now build a tabernacle (as an archetype of construction and creation), should be prohibited. Technically, to which ancient craftsman should the craft be linked, I will leave that to those greater than me

מיכי Staff replied 8 years ago

When an electrical device operates, it is the life that enters the wires. It becomes something else that is completely visible (you see a device operating). What you do not see is whether the circuits that operate it do so in a grammatic way or directly.
You are still assuming consequential measures. But you need to study the laws of Shabbat to determine this.

משה replied 8 years ago

And see Chaya”a regarding the matter of a watch on Shabbat.

יוסף replied 6 years ago

I don't understand why the wires become alive
And why doesn't the pipe in a water tap become alive?

And regardless, the electric current flows inside the wire like in a pipe
And they strive to balance and therefore they flow

And I don't understand what the connection is between electricity and fire?

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