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שו”תCategory: Talmudic studyFather and son
asked 5 years ago

Good evening

The Gemara compares Av and Adar, with one diminishing and the other increasing with joy.

In Av we find gradualism, three weeks, nine days, a week that falls on it, etc. (The Rabbi explains and distinguishes between old and new mourning, in which one must enter into sadness, create it).

Why do we find no gradation in Adar, only a general statement, “When the Rabbi enters with joy”? (Even though this sentence is not cited in the Ramban or Shulchan Arba).
On the surface, even old joy requires a process of entry.

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מיכי Staff answered 5 years ago
I didn’t understand the basis for this comparison. Just as in mourning one must sit low, in joy one must sit high? Just as in mourning there are seven days, in joy one must also sit seven days? In Av, ten days are counted and in Adar, ten days are counted, and even a month. In short, there are aspects that are equal/contrary to each other and some that are not. There is no reason to draw such an analogy or contrast beyond its relevant scope. And more specifically, as is known, psychology also distinguishes between different stages of grief, and I don’t know of any parallel stages of joy. Beyond that, grief must be handled with caution (it’s not a desirable state, certainly not on a regular basis), but joy can be handled more spontaneously without control and stages and the like.

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