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From Amalek

asked 7 months ago

Hello Rabbi, I heard one of your lessons explaining that impurity is rejected in the community because impurity does not belong in the community (even if all the individuals in it die or are replaced, the community continues to exist). Is it possible to also explain the matter of Hashem’s war against Amalek from generation to generation, based on this, that there is nothing mystical here necessarily, but rather Hashem simply decreed the war to be applied to the community called Amalek? Do you write about this somewhere?
Thank you very much and have a good fast.


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מיכי Staff answered 7 months ago
I didn’t understand what the difficulty is in the verse that you are trying to resolve in this way? And what’s the point of mysticism here? With or without the thesis about the continuity of the public, the verse is understood in the same way.

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עמיר חוזה replied 7 months ago

I should have explained better. People tend to explain that the war on Amalek belongs to women, children, and infants, as well as to later generations, because of something intrinsically spiritual that is inherent in those born into this people called Amalek. I suggest otherwise, in accordance with what you said, that the war is in the community or in the people called Amalek, and not in the people themselves.

מיכי Staff replied 7 months ago

I didn't understand. If you want to explain the logic then give a reason and not a formal definition.
And in general it is not your turn to get into mysticism. Amalek is a violent and fucked-up culture, which also raises children into it. That's all, without mysticism and without virtues.

פנחס replied 7 months ago

A cultural matter can change, but no reason is required to explain it. So if Amalek were to change before our eyes and after a hundred generations he would be a mere speck of dust, there would still be a mitzvah to wipe out his memory from under heaven. So how can one claim that this is a cultural matter?

משה replied 7 months ago

Your assumption is incorrect, Maimonides explains that if Amalek accepts the seven commandments of the Noahide people, the obligation to live does not apply to him, which means that the definition of Amalek does depend on culture.

מיכי Staff replied 7 months ago

If it had changed, I assume they would have abolished the obligation to destroy it. Such arguments abound, regardless of the prohibition on demanding a Tema Dekra. If they change, then it is not Amalek that is being spoken of.

Amir Hoze replied 7 months ago

Well, I really said everything I said under the assumption that Amalek should be wiped out. Even the details are no longer like the Amalek of old.

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