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God’s inability to pay

שו”תCategory: faithGod’s inability to pay
asked 5 years ago

In lesson 10 of God and the world
The rabbi divided between

  • Lack of logical ability, for example, no one can turn a square into a triangle, it is meaningless.
  • And the inability of God to repay, that we can repay and He cannot.

But for the Jewish people, this is also a logical contradiction because no one (including us) can complete the whole because it is already complete.
We can pay off because we assumed we were missing something, so there’s no problem with that, but completing the whole thing makes no sense at all.
 


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מיכי Staff answered 5 years ago
Rabbi Kook claims that, paradoxically (absurdly?), we can indeed complete the whole. Because the perfect is not truly complete (it still lacks the ability to complete itself, and this is done through us). In other words: there is no such thing as perfect.

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דביר replied 5 years ago

Likewise, there is no such thing as “omnipotent”

מיכי replied 5 years ago

Not sure. If there is an omnipotent being who is not perfect, then he can also improve. We need to check if such a thing is possible.

dvirlevi311 replied 5 years ago

There is no such thing as perfect because it does not have the ability to pay off, just as there is no such thing as omnipotent because it does not have the ability to be incompetent. Right?

דורון replied 5 years ago

“In other words: There is no such thing as perfect”

Translated into Hebrew: Although God is, by definition (also Rabbi Kook's definition), “perfect” and although there is a God “such”, in fact there is not.

My heart, my heart, to this God.

ישי replied 5 years ago

The fact that God cannot contradict the laws of logic does not diminish His level of perfection.

דורון replied 5 years ago

Yishai, did you respond to me..?
If so, it's not clear to me what your response has to do with what I said.

מיכי Staff replied 5 years ago

Yishai's intention is to say (apparently to Dvir) that the inability of the omnipotent to be incapable is not similar to the inability of the perfect to be perfect. First, being incapable is neither completeness nor ability, and therefore even if this is true, there is no flaw in his omnipotence. Second, this is simply a logical contradiction, and not necessarily in perfection.

הפוסק האחרון replied 5 years ago

The fact that they play with the concept of God as if he were plasticine and decide for him what he can and cannot do only proves that this is an object, a figment of the imagination, that they are trying to shape according to whims, with no connection to reality.

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