Haredim don’t know how to study Gemara
peace. Beyond the fact that I feel that since I’ve been with the Haredim, my IQ has literally plummeted, I have a general question and I’m speaking in a sweeping generalization: I have an opinion that all Haredim don’t know how to study Gemara except for Rabbi Adin Even Israel [Steinsaltz]. Agree/disagree, and if there’s a reason [although I didn’t give a reason] then why not.
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A. Dear, IQ parachuting syndrome, this is a well-known and completely natural phenomenon among all those who come into contact with Haredim, in order to avoid the associated damage, one must maintain physical and mental “social distancing”.
Best regards, Benjamin “Doctor” Gorlin
So I guess otherwise. A brief generalization and to the point.
Benjamin, I think that researchers do need to get closer to them. They need to do research and statistics on them so that they can see and be seen.
The nonsense you write deserves to be deleted
Lowering the level
You are indeed lowering the bar. Delete yourself and fly out of the corner of my eye. Thank you.
Dear David Siegel, the things we write seem like nonsense only to those who are unable to get to the bottom of things. If you have a substantive comment about what was said, we will treat it with respect. Rejecting with nonsense and/or asking is not the way of the king, but the way of those who walk the Haredi crooked path.
To the father, together, the catheters of Dadhava, Shlomo Rava!
If both of you felt a drop in IQ when you approached the Haredim (or the Haredim 🙂 – Perhaps in your poor cognitive state at that time you were unable to get to the bottom of their minds and grasp the depth of their wisdom?
With greetings, Shimshoin Leitz
It seems to me only that based on the question it is clear that he did not study with the Haredim?
And a question for the dear father, as is known, even in a poor cognitive state, one can easily descend to the very end of the Haredim's mind, for their mind is rooted in its beginning and its beginning in its end, and the depth of their wisdom is not as deep as a standing lesson, but as a supine lesson.
If you found that IQ decreased, it happened because the average IQ of the population increased.
Is it Haredim and Gemara that bother you? It bothers me much more that Mizrahi people don't know how to put on sandals.
And I noticed that redheads can't play chess.
A. – Do you agree?
To the point that tries to imitate my point, hello. I studied for 6 years in a Haredi yeshiva and my brain barely survived, is that enough? Or do you think you need 7 years like a psychologist to differentiate?
Haim, no connection.
On the 24th of Tammuz 5771
No, – Shalom Rav,
Perhaps if you had studied the Gemara with ‘Pesik’, with the methods of the first and last poskim ‘Lasuki שמעטא עליבא דהכלקטא’ – you would have connected more, that great Talmud is that which leads to action.
With blessings, Sh”Tz
Dear Sh”tz, peace to you too.
I studied without a comma and without a period, as the Gemara itself does, with first and last words as they are. It felt more mystical to me, as if there was something hidden here that needed to be explored. I have become less attached to the ‘suki s'am'ata eli'ba de'halkta’ since Rabbi Ovadia Yosef ruled out picking one's nose on Shabbat.
My dear, I wish I had your patience when it comes to internet trolls. You won.
Some who have written here, including me, are regular guests here who discuss things and I have never seen you discuss anything, so maybe you are actually a troll? Or maybe you are a troll because your mind is weak to delve into the depth of what we are saying? Or maybe both are right? Say someone invited you here that you are poking your nose into my discussion? If you are uncomfortable, don't read. Read in places where you are comfortable trolling.
A., This answer needs to be peppered. First, if my regular guest then what, the accuser will accuse that the entire regular guest is a troll in the form of robbers and I have conquered it. And what you asked him to say if someone invited etc. to poke his nose into the discussion, the respondent will answer with a loud voice and say if someone invited etc. to poke his nose into the site. It is reasonable to assume that the rate of readers is several times greater than the rate of writers, and therefore a regular reader is also a regular guest. And it is also necessary to clarify whether D. Y. Mr. Nihu Rabba Y.D., who pitched his tent here from before Dana and before we were created in the womb, knew him.
Regarding the implied criticism of “nose-picking,” it should be noted:
A. Nose-picking adds wisdom, as it is written: “Even my wisdom stood before me.” And the sages demanded: “The wisdom I learned in my nose stood before me.”
B. The habit of nose-picking to find the law alleviates the severity of nose-picking, which is forbidden on Shabbat (as we were taught by the Rabbis). When one picks one’s nose and others pick it, this is a “ruling that it is not fitting for him,” which is permissible for our Sephardic brothers.
C. There is a “preparation” in this for “free love.” On the occasion of ‘Tissue in the Nose’ Day, which brings us good, may the ’ turn into joy and happiness.
With the blessing of ‘A little bit of happiness’, from Myati ‘The Handkerchief Troll’
A. Take my comment personally, huh?
How do you know I'm not discussing the site? And that the name I use must be the same in all comments?
You're probably right, my mind is probably not sophisticated enough to enter into discussions like “Haredim don't know how to study”, lucky there is Rashmavag A. for such topics that stand at the heights of Olympus. We are lucky that we won.
And your sign:
And I will pour out upon you [blessings] until without D”Y – until your lips are worn out from saying D.Y. 
With blessings, Sh”T
I'll tell you a secret, I don't take anything personally. I came to terms with myself a long time ago. The whole core of our coping in this life – is coping with thoughts. Thoughts are like clouds that come from nowhere and pass to nowhere. And I accept every cloud that comes, no matter how much I play with it. You are welcome to enter me until you don't know – if you succeed of course. We will find someone here with an unusual meditative experience. In Tzlocha.
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