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Is Judaism refutable?

שו”תCategory: faithIs Judaism refutable?
asked 8 years ago

Hello Rabbi,
I wanted to ask you whether you think Judaism is a refutable faith.
If so, then how can it be refuted? Jewish thought always opposes ideas that supposedly contradict Judaism, and then when it has no choice but to embrace them and say that it does not contradict Judaism. For example, evolution, the ages of the universe, and now I see the same direction in relation to biblical criticism (which is a much stronger refutation of Judaism, but somehow I feel that we will get along even if biblical criticism is proven correct). Belief in God is also something that cannot be refuted. So where can it be refuted?
And if it is irrefutable, then what exactly are we saying here? I always liked Maimonides, who says that if they prove that the world is ancient, religion falls. It gives the feeling that we have a position on something at least.
And thank you so much for this site, I was really happy when I discovered it, it helps me so much.


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מיכי Staff answered 8 years ago
Hello Yossi. No. If faith were a falsifiable theory, it could be tested with scientific tools. In my book God Plays Dice, I argued that there are areas in which the Popperian criterion for scientificity is not useful (for example, in psychology and other non-scientific areas). This criterion defines what is a scientific theory but not what is a correct theory. There are theses that are not accessible to scientific tools, and then the way to formulate a position on them is common sense or intuition. Insisting on falsifiability narrows our fields of study to only a very small variety. Incidentally, as David Hume has already shown, even in science itself there are quite a few principles that cannot be refuted (the principle of causality, for example). In my notebooks, I tried to show how to approach the question of faith in a systematic and rational philosophical way, even though scientific and empirical tools are not applicable to it. I also dealt with your question quite a bit there, in both the first and third notebooks. When you discuss “Judaism,” you must define what it is. Biblical criticism attacks certain principles that have been accepted in tradition, but it can be argued that they are not necessary. The same is true of evolution. Incidentally, Maimonides does not say that if they prove that the world is ancient, religion falls. He says exactly the opposite: if they did prove it, he would interpret the verses of Genesis creatively and not be moved by it. If we come to the conclusion that there is no God or that He did not give Torah, it seems to me that “Judaism” has fallen. But if we discover that more lateral principles are falling, there is no reason not to give them up. The fact that people in some previous generation thought something and now it has been discovered that it is not true should not obligate God and/or us. For example, people once thought that the world was flat, and so it is in the Gemara. So when they discovered that it was round, did “Judaism” fall? No. The sages introduced their insights into Judaism, and once it became clear that the insights were incorrect, they could be abandoned. The price is that when we examine our tradition, it is very important to distinguish between the main and obligatory and the additional ones that we should give up. This is one of the main projects I have taken on for this site and in general. In addition, when you discover a scientific or other finding that contradicts an accepted belief, you do not necessarily have to reject it. If it is convincing, you must not give up on common sense. On the contrary, you should reject the side detail in faith because it turned out to be wrong. In my last post, I also addressed these things, and the trilogy I am currently writing is supposed to present this full picture regarding faith.  

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יוסי replied 8 years ago

Regarding Maimonides, it is true that he says that we can make creative interpretations of the fulfillment and also of the pre-existence of the world in principle. But when he lists the reasons why this is not done, he says that first of all the pre-existence of the world has not been proven and secondly he says that this principle, unlike the fulfillment principle, contradicts the Torah outright. Then at the end of the chapter he also says that if Aristotle's view of the pre-existence of the world is proven, contrary to Plato's view, then “the Torah as a whole will fall” (I quote from Chapter 25, Part 2’).
But in any case, I agree that we can embrace evolution and other side things and that it is not contradictory. And I always thought that the existence of God and that He gave the Torah are indeed the main things on which religion depends (and I feel that free choice also). But these are such inaccurate statements that we do with them whatever we want. We used to say revelation at Sinai which is a more accurate statement but now we say it was given by God and even if the biblical criticism is correct and the entire Torah was written by humans, we would still say that the Torah is from heaven. At least that is my feeling when I deal with these questions, this is the direction I see in relation to biblical criticism and in general to all questions of faith. And if religion cannot be refuted that is fine, but what does religion say? Even the concept of Torah from heaven is starting to become something very unclear.
And thank you very much, I will look for the notebooks, and I was really happy with the trilogy project. It will be very helpful.

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