Jesus’ Prophecy

I didn't understand the meaning of your words “Where did he prophesy”?, what does it matter?
The point is that the biblical law does not seem to indicate that a prophet who prophesies to uproot the commandments is a false prophet, only one who demands that they be broken. Moreover, perhaps from the simplest point of view, it is also the case that prophecy speaks of commandments:

For example, in Deuteronomy 18 it is mentioned that the people asked Moses to give them the Torah and that they would not continue to hear the commandments through the presence of Mount Sinai, (and because of this?) God would also give them prophets who would make His words heard.
Now, what is there that at the presence of Mount Sinai is about commandments and prohibitions? So in prophecies, it can also be said that it is about commandments and prohibitions.
“A prophet from your own kin, from your own brothers, like me, the LORD your God will raise up for you; to him you shall listen. 16 According to all that you desired of the LORD your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly, saying, I will not gather to hear the voice of the LORD my God, nor see this great fire again, lest I die. 17 And the LORD said to me, They have well spoken. 18 A prophet I will raise up for them from among their brothers, like you; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. ”

Likewise, throughout the books of the prophets, commandments are sometimes mentioned that do not agree with the plain meaning of the Scriptures, for example, the greatness of the court in the book of Ezekiel. Isn't this difficult according to your words?
I remember that in another place you wrote that it is possible to reconcile Christianity with the Trinity with difficulty.

I thought now, since there is a dispute in the GEM about the nullification of the future commandments,
then the prophet could say that the future has arrived. And thus nullify all the commandments.

a The only reason to think that Jesus said this prophecy is the testimony of the New Testament written after the destruction. This prophecy could be an invention of hindsight or any other nonsense.

In addition, there is a dispute between historians and the Christian tradition about when Jesus lived and this can also probably be adjusted according to their need to fit Jesus to the prophecy and if so, it all goes back to the testimony of 4 people who testified that their rabbi was a prophet (just as reliable as the testimonies about the Holy Spirit of Scientology or Mormons).

You want to believe 4 unknown people and see this as evidence – you are welcome but don't tell me that this makes sense

In addition to this, there are quite a few other flaws in this argument (such as the fact that the court in Jesus' generation examined him and declared him a false prophet, things that Jesus said from which we understand that he did see himself as God, clear evidence that Christian theology is based on pagan theology and countless other problems) and so on.

M, you are indeed raising serious issues that the Rabbi wrote in his eloquent language.
But if we do indeed bring sixty thousand witnesses that he was able to predict the date on which the Temple would be destroyed, would you listen to the rest of his words, even where he says to abolish the commandments?

It is only important to be precise. It is not clear that if he saw himself as this god, then we are talking about the fulfillment of that god. Some say that this entire perception is only in the later books. Certainly the Maimonides does not accept this, but I remember that the Rambam Kosher brings in one of his books an opinion that we should not limit the Lord in what he can do.
Likewise, the Sanhedrin killed him because he blasphemed the Lord, not because he was a false prophet.
Nor does it say in the Torah that the one who examines the prophet is the Sanhedrin, but rather the one who hears his words.

Dear M, please note that all your claims regarding Jesus are valid for each of the prophets of Israel without exception, especially “This prophecy could be an invention of hindsight or any other nonsense”…

Is Jesus a prophet? Since when? Where does Jesus say that God revealed himself to him?

To the judge,
You can read here
https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_1335.cfm
John 6:14)
John 7:16)
John 8:28).
John 12:49-50).
John 14:24).
Acts 3:22,23).
John 1:18).
To Benjamin,
What is the connection? Not everything can attack every one of the prophets of Israel, and look carefully at the things he writes.

The final judge, of course Jesus was a prophet, haven't you studied the Christian scriptures? Look at Mark 1:15.

There is no mention of Jesus saying that God spoke to him.

In the book The Jewish State, Herzl wrote, “In Basel I founded the Jewish State, in fifty years everyone will know it.”
The book was written in 1888, the state was established exactly fifty years later.
Here we have a true prophet, who knows that the prophecy was not written after the time of the events.

Benjamin please read the link you attached above^
With me but he did not say this as a word from the mouth of God. Compared to Jesus. He did not say the implications for the prophecy. And you can see in the link sent above.

Anyone who reads a little will see that Jesus was simply a narcissist who was strong on the weak and stupid. In short, suitable for the Gentiles.

In essence, how do you really understand the gap between the written plain text and the Sages' insistence on a prophet who commands to abrogate a mitzvah? Does this fall into the plain text? Does it matter?

I understand that there is an estimate among the Sages that an inherent part of the prophet's role is to strengthen the Torah and not to abrogate it. Therefore, there is an estimate that a prophet who comes to abrogate a mitzvah forever is certainly a false prophet.
But it is a bit difficult for me, then, since it is said that these are the mitzvahs, hence a prophet is not permitted, etc., why did they attach this specifically to that name and not to a prophet's parsha.

There is only one prophet. Moses. Everything else is just that.

What is “suitable for the Gentiles”? Do you think all Gentiles are made from the same mold?
How do you know that only Moses was a prophet? Strange announcement. Why him and only him?

M According to all historians and Bible scholars, the stories of the Torah and the prophets are also anachronistic and were written long after the events occurred. There are also quite a few contradictions in the Bible itself.

And the truth is that the Bible is not closed in on itself in many cases.
Quite a few times the prophets contradicted explicit Torah words, such as Ezekiel, a large part of whose prophecy contradicts the Torah (for example, “The soul that sins shall die” versus visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children).

Although the sages dealt with some of the contradictions and interpreted them in a way that worked, Christians also have commentators who know how to deal with it no less than we do.
The Jews interpret it differently and the Christians (including the first Jews who became Christians) differently, and it is difficult to say who is right in the interpretation.

Christianity (at least Catholic and Orthodox) is definitely pagan and was influenced by pagan religions that spread in the first centuries AD, but that doesn't say anything about Jesus' prophecy or his messiahship.
I can agree that the New Testament is a bit questionable, but I'm not sure that our tradition doesn't have problematic or questionable things either.

In addition, during the time of Jesus, a large part of the Sanhedrin were Sadducees who didn't believe in prophecy at all. From Jesus' words it follows that they were also corrupt. What's more, his prophecy was fulfilled and the Sanhedrin disappeared from view.

There is also a story of the quarrel over the head of the Sanhedrin who lied to the prophet Zechariah and caused the people to kill him, even though he was a true prophet.
Although one could make it difficult and say that the story never happened, a large part accepts it and many scholars do not see it as a theological problem.
https://taamu.co.il/גלגוליו-של-זורק-האבן-על-הנביא-זכריה/

Regarding the abrogation of the Torah, according to Christian theology, Jesus is the Messiah and in the days of the Messiah the commandments are void. This is also not a Christian belief, and in Judaism there is such an opinion, and it is even the accepted opinion.

Textual criticism of the New Testament is tens of times more significant and convincing than that of the Bible.

Jesus was a narcissist. What prophecy even belongs to someone who is a narcissist.
He should have been hospitalized in a psychiatric hospital for megalomania or Jerusalem syndrome.

Yoav, don't worry, believe me I know a thing or two about studying the Bible..
As for what you said, I wasn't talking about this point in itself, but about the entirety of the considerations and, in the theological part, about essential details in the life of Jesus as characteristics of idolatry.
I once wrote a long and bitter work on the subject.

It is written in the New Testament, “I and the Father are one.” That is, I am God. If that were not clear enough, He repeats it later, and the Lord of the prophets has already instructed us, “There shall arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams; and he shall give you a sign, or a prophet’s message.” And the sign and the prophet’s message, which he spoke to you, came to pass, saying, ‘We have gone after other gods, which you have not known, and we have served them.’” 4 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or to that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart, and with all your soul. 5 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and him shall ye fear; And you shall keep his commandments, and listen to his voice, and you shall serve him, and you shall cleave to him. And that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall die, because he speaks a lie.
And he opened his heart to his believers who said, Jesus answered, Jesus answered, what other gods are there than this?
And do not say that there are no other gods, because they claimed that he was God. Then a prophet will arise and command to worship Baal, because Baal and the One are one. Can anyone tell us the opinion of Christians on this? I am glad to hear it. Thank you.

The example is almost nothing in the definition of a prophet, it is a final verification. For me, yes, complete criteria must be met.