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Jewish morality and… Was Rabbi Akiva a Christian?

שו”תCategory: moralJewish morality and… Was Rabbi Akiva a Christian?
asked 6 years ago

And love your neighbor as yourself – a similar rule appears in many religions, as is well known, and this does not bother me at all, except for a small point that may be lacking in detail, and that is, was Rabbi Akiva a Christian?
Rabbi Akiva was born around 50 AD – the Gospel of Matthew dates it to 80 – 90 AD…
Apparently, Rabbi Akiva learned the rule from the Gospels, or perhaps he was a Christian (perhaps even after conversion???).
It is interesting that the book “Wisdom of Solomon” (the “Pharisee” book), which contained a systematic mishna of moral teachings, has disappeared (or was lost), so that there are almost no Pharisaic moral sayings. And in general, did our sages oppose moral teachings?

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מיכי Staff answered 6 years ago

Clearly. Maimonides was also born in the 12th century, about six hundred years after Muhammad, and therefore it is clear that he converted to Islam. These things are well known.

. replied 6 years ago

First of all, you assume the time of writing of their book and its accuracy.
Anyway, it is also possible that this was a period when these things were emphasized more….

בנימין גורלין replied 6 years ago

You are “assuming” the time of writing of each book.
And seriously, compare with non-Christian works such as those of Josephus, the Talmud, the writings of Tacitus and Pliny the Younger and draw correct conclusions after in-depth study.
Regarding the second part of your comment, see my question above, it seems that the Pharisees avoided dealing with moral teachings and that is why I was puzzled… ???

M replied 6 years ago

And you shall love your neighbor as yourself, this is not Rabbi Akiva, but an explicit commandment in the Torah.

M replied 6 years ago

Regarding the Wisdom of Solomon – it disappeared like 30 other external books. Not because it is moral. It is a fact that the moralists did leave Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, etc., and therefore it is clear that it is not related at all. It disappeared apparently because it was sectarian and later than the canonical books.

In Eisenstein's collection of debates, there is a booklet in which he goes through the moral sayings of Jesus word by word and shows that they appeared in our sources.

PS. I mention that Jesus himself was probably a Pharisee and that he himself was probably influenced quite a bit by the traditions of the sages, probably also in the moral field

בועז replied 6 years ago

There are indeed several articles of Chazal that have parallels in the New Testament, (as I think I even heard from Rabbi Michael himself that there are glosses by Rabbi Zvi Yehuda Kook on the New Testament, apparently in this style, this brought him great satisfaction). It is possible that he is in the sense of learning from everyone, or that in fact both of them learned from a third source.

שמשון replied 4 months ago

I don't understand, did Maimonides convert to Islam?

מיכי Staff replied 4 months ago

There were such claims. It just sounds like a wild hypothesis to me.

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